Obama: Born in two Hawaii hospitals? Queens and Kapiolani?
Which Hawaii hospital is Obama's birth hospital of Aug. 4, 1961?
1. Is it Queens, or is it Kapiolani hospital? As many of us know, some past news stories say that Obama claims Queens as his birth hospital, while other news stories say that Obama says he was born atKapiolani.
2. I raise the Obama birth hospital issue again because I recently ran across an interesting message at another blog that discussed the Obama Hawaii birth hospital issue.
3. The message says that a Nov. 2008 UPI story reported that Obama said that he was born at Queens Hospital, while, at the same time, a Nov. 2008 Honolulu Advertiser story reports that Obama and his family say he was born at Kapiolani.
Just wondering: Can a baby be born in two different hospitals?
Anyway, here is the message I found. Judge for yourself if Obama is merely confused as to which Hawaii hospital is his birth hospital, or,worse, maybe Obama is lying when he claims that he was born in Hawaii.
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First poster message:
"Yesterday, I saw a UPI article dated election day which says Obama says he was born in Queens Medical Center in Hawaii. This is the first I had heard of Obama himself actually naming a location.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/02/ ... 225647000/
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Second poster response:
"This is one of the serious problems with Obama:
He can’t make up his mind as to which Hawaii hospital he was born in.
For instance, your UPI story says one hospital, while a Nov. 2008 story in the Hawaii newspaper Honolulu Advertiser says it was a different hospital.
Check this story out that I found online, part of which I quote below:
HonoluluAdvertiser.com Sunday Nov.9, 2008
by Will Hoover
“Born Aug. 4, 1961
While most Obama residences can be traced, the hospital where he was born is difficult to document. The desire of historians to pinpoint where Obama’s life began has crashed head-on with the modern American propensity toward confidentiality. The federal Health Information Privacy Act of 1999 — a law passed to protect medical records from public scrutiny — prevents hospitals from confirming births, administrators contend.
“We don’t have plans to do anything,â€
Re: Obama: Born in two Hawaii hospitals? Queens and Kapiolan
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Originally Posted by mirse
Which Hawaii hospital is Obama's birth hospital of Aug. 4, 1961?
3. The message says that a Nov. 2008 UPI story reported that Obama said that he was born at Queens Hospital, while, at the same time, a Nov. 2008 Honolulu Advertiser story reports that Obama and his family say he was born at Kapiolani.
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http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/02/ ... 225647000/
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I looked at that article to see if seemed to be a direct quote from him.
Sen. Barack Obama, Democrat of Illinois
Published: Nov. 4, 2008 at 11:14 PM
WASHINGTON, Nov. 4 (UPI) -- Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., made history Tuesday by becoming the first African-American to win the U.S. presidency.
On a freezing day in February 2007, the first-term U.S. senator announced his candidacy for president outside the Old State Capitol in Springfield, Ill., saying he could not wait until politics "boil the hope out of him." His best-selling third book was called "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream."
He said his late mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, who died of cancer at 53, and his grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, 86, taught him how to dream and value hard work, and were the guiding forces of his life.
Obama described his birth at Queen's Medical Center in Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961, to a young white woman from Kansas and a father of Luo ethnicity from Nyanza Province in Kenya, as an "all-America" story transcending orthodox racial stereotypes and experience. Even his name -- Barack means "one who is blessed" in Swahili -- seemed to signal great things for Obama.
After a scholastic career that included being the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer in Chicago. He won a seat in the Illinois Senate in 1996 and held it until he ran for the U.S. Senate in 2004.
It was that year he burst upon the national political scene with a stirring keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention. That fall he won his Senate seat with more than 70 percent of the vote.
Before launching his political career, Obama joined the Chicago law firm of Miner, Barnhill & Galland to practice civil rights law. He had met his future wife, Michelle Robinson, in 1989 when he was a summer intern at Sidley & Austin, a corporate law firm. They married in 1992 and have two daughters, Malia, 9, and Sasha, 7.
It's hard to figure out if they're quoting from him during his 2007 Presidential candidacy announcement, or referring to things he wrote in his book, or mentioning things he said to a press pool with a UPI guy the day of the article.
And as we saw with how some of the nbc cases got reported, the newswires can be really wrong about a lot of things.
Re: Obama: Born in two Hawaii hospitals? Queens and Kapiolan
Quoting Freedom First:
I looked at that article to see if seemed to be a direct quote from him.
[i]Sen. Barack Obama, Democrat of Illinois
Published: Nov. 4, 2008 at 11:14 PM
WASHINGTON, Nov. 4 (UPI) -- Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., made history Tuesday by becoming the first African-American to win the U.S. presidency.
]Obama described his birth at Queen's Medical Center in Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961, to a young white woman from Kansas and a father of Luo ethnicity from Nyanza Province in Kenya, as an "all-America" story transcending orthodox racial stereotypes and experience. [/b]Even his name -- Barack means "one who is blessed" in Swahili -- seemed to signal great things for Obama.
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It's hard to figure out if they're quoting from him during his 2007 Presidential candidacy announcement, or referring to things he wrote in his book, or mentioning things he said to a press pool with a UPI guy the day of the article.
And as we saw with how some of the nbc cases got reported, the newswires can be really wrong about a lot of things.[/quote]
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Freedom First: This is mirse, the original poster of this thread.
After reading your message above, I did some research on google to see if I could find other references to the Hawaii hospital where Obama was born.
1. Below is part of a long article in an Illinois publication on Obama. It says Obama
was born in Queens Hospital.
2. My question is this: How would an Illinois publication know to write that Obama was born at Queens hospital in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, since Obama's Hawii short form birth certificate that Obama has displayed on his fight the smears website does not list Obama's birth hospital?
3. My answer is this: The only way, as I see it, for the Illinois publication to be able to list Queens Hawaii hospital as Obama's birth hospital is if Obama himself gave the information to the Illinois assembly publication that Queens hospital was Obama's Hawaii hospital back in Aug.4, 1961.
4. NOTE: The Illinois publication below is the "Illinois General Assembly: Encyclopedia II". It seems to be an official and important Illinois state publication:
"Barack Obama - Illinois General Assembly: Encyclopedia II - Barack Obama - Early life
Barack Obama was born at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii
to Harvard University-educated economist Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a native of Kenya, and S. Ann Dunham, of Wichita, Kansas. At the time of Obama's birth, both his parents were students at the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Of his years in Hawaii, Obama has written, "The irony is that my decision to work in politics, and to pursue such a career in a big Mainland city, in some sense grows out of my Hawaiian upbringing, and the idea ... "
5. So, again, dear Obama, were you born in Hawaii at Queens or Kapiolani hospital? As I understand it, a baby cannot be born in two hospitals.
Sadly, Obama ain't talking.
Re: Obama: Born in two Hawaii hospitals? Queens and Kapiolan
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Originally Posted by mirse
2. My question is this: How would an Illinois publication know to write that Obama was born at Queens hospital in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, since Obama's Hawii short form birth certificate that Obama has displayed on his fight the smears website does not list Obama's birth hospital?
3. My answer is this: The only way, as I see it, for the Illinois publication to be able to list Queens Hawaii hospital as Obama's birth hospital is if Obama himself revealed that Queens hospital was Obama's Hawaii hospital back in Aug.4, 1961.
GREAT job of research, mirse. I think you nailed it as coming from him. And now the story has changed. Flip, flop, flip, flop. It's just so BASIC to know which hospital you were born at if you grow up with a parent who's able to tell you (as opposed to an adoptee) so the fact that the story has been changed, from one moment to the next and by people who ought to know, is disturbing.
