Thread: Entitlements ~ VETS please read

Sent to me in email, V asked me to post it in here...




and to think veteran's health

care is talked about being reduced with this administration.'''''''''''





Love him or loathe him, he nailed this one right on the head.........

By Rush Limbaugh:

I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I can't let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the
entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.


If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.

Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.

Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.

We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.

You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing . Make sense?

However, our own U.S. Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They did not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.
If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm's way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.

I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting .
When I> do we finally do something about this?" If this doesn't seem fair to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.

How many people

CAN YOU
send this to?

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How many

WILL YOU

send this to?

Rush failed to mention SGLI insurance. Unless something has changed, our active duty soldiers have a life insurance policy of $400,000. Of course that is less than they deserve, but it's a far cry from the vision Rush is trying to paint.

Do they???

I have NO clue and contrary to what I normally do, I usually research this stuff....

but the way our soldiers are being treated, medical care isnt the greatest.....

Please if this is total gobbledy goop, I will delete it or ask V to...

I dont know much about what happens to the families of soldiers when they are KIA...

vix

OMG Now I am even MORE confused...
found this.. http://www.axcessnews.com/national_022105c.shtml

says benefits for Nat Guard raised from 5000. to 100,000.00, and that was a proposed bill (dont know if it passed)

and found this...
http://www.senate.gov/~bennelson/news/d ... d=241423&&
but it is 2 years old...

So I guess the benefits are different according to what branch of service?

And while I was cruising I found many organizations that do help families with grants etc.....

Doesnt look like Rush did his homework, and neither did I by NOT checking for all the facts....

How does one remove the post? Or should I leave it up ?
The comments at the start of the email were not mine, I simply copied and pasted it here (oh I wish I had not! )

it is embarrassing

SOLDIER "DEATH BENEFITS" M.I.A.

Last month, the Bush administration announced that, in the Pentagon's 2006 budget, there would a big bump in the so-called "death benefit" for military families. If a soldier was killed in war, administration officials promised, his loved ones would get a $100,000 lump sum -- up from just $12,420 -- plus an extra $150,000 in life insurance payouts. It seemed like a great idea. Everybody cheered.

But then, something curious happened. Or rather, didn't happen. The Pentagon never included the money for a bigger death benefit in its budget. So now, the Army has gone to Congress, asking for an extra $348 million to keep the administration's word.

The money is part is a larger, $4.8 billion package of Army "FY06

Shortfalls and Requested Legislative Authorities" -- programs that the service's chiefs felt should have received more money from the Pentagon budgeteers. Every year, the Army, Navy, and Air Force appeal directly to Congress to infuse these programs with more cash. This year's Army list also includes $443 million for more M16s and other small arms and $227 million for night vision equipment, Inside Defense notes.

Now, maybe the death benefit lack this year was just a simple oversight on the Pentagon's part. Maybe the Defense Department's PR machine spun a little faster than its financial wheels could turn. But given the cynical games the Pentagon has been playing with soldiers' paychecks -- holding them hostage, essentially, as a back-door way to inflate military spending -- I'm inclined to believe the worst.

http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001415.html

This was from 2005....I realized it after I posted, but the last paragraph is quite insightful.

Under current law, the one-time, immediate $100,000 death gratuity is awarded to a spouse or a child of a service member killed in combat or in designated combat zones while on active duty. However, if there is no spouse and the next of kin is a child, the money is not accessible until the child turns 18.

http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index ... xml&coll=6

There is NO problem with Rush's comments. They were made in 2002 and were correct at the time.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/deathpay.asp

omg is 5 years old?

Okay, so not so embarrassed anymore...
BUT with all that I could NOT find about death benefits for survivors of our soldiers who are KIA, WHAT is the amount? What help DO they get or not get?

I really want to know now, and I am so frustrated trying to find out. I can read all these different proposals but cannot find the answers.
There has to be someone here who is a pro at finding this out???

I hope.

I really want to know....

thanks for the info gofer

vix

All I know, is my husband has a life insurance policy with the Guards and it's $250,000 I don't know if they can purchase more or not...