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    No Business In Libya!!

    March 16, 2011 4:00 A.M.

    Should We Intervene in Libya?
    Victor Davis Hanson

    Pressures for a no-fly zone are mounting, but we have no business going in unless we’ve thought through exactly what we mean to do.


    There are plenty of good arguments for imposing a no-fly zone in Libya. Without Libyan-government air strikes, the rebels might have a better chance of carving out permanent zones of resistance. Qaddafi has a long record of supporting anti-American terrorism, whether in the form of killing Americans in Europe during the Reagan administration or masterminding the Lockerbie bombing that took down a Pan Am 747 jumbo jet, killing 270 in the air and on the ground. In humanitarian terms, Libyans have been living an ungodly nightmare since Qaddafi’s coup in 1969, and it would be a fine and noble thing to lend them a hand to end their four-decade-long misery. The world would be a better and safer place without Qaddafi and his odious clan in power.

    Unlike our military action under Ronald Reagan in 1986 (I visited the country on the 20th anniversary of that strike, only to happen upon an unexpected Lionel Richie commemorative concert), intervention now would find the proverbial “peopleâ€
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    The man is insane and must be taken out of power immediately and citizens should be freed from murders and tortures. I hope if Americans were caught in such trap someone would rescue us as well. God bless all.
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    We are killing Libyans to save Libyans from Libyans

    Whodathunkit

    America just crossed the Rubicon into Loony~toon Land

    Congress did not declare War

    and I don't care what your beliefs are the people that did this was the action of an out of control Mafia to seize assets and Oil from a Sovereign country

    The uprising going on in the Middle East was caused by Bernanke and the U.S.

    Bernanke's money printing caused massive inflation on the petro dollar raising the cost of everything (FOOD) where people couldn't survive

    In comes the NEOCON's .. we must kill the Libyans to save the Libyans from the Libyans

    mean while, back at the ranch 38 Billion Dollars were seized by the U.S. Government and the Oil Fields are Next .. and that money that was seized.. it will not make it back to Libiya ... spoils of war will be quietly distributed to the Mafia Players

    Sorry Dar-for ... we couldn't save you.. you had no oil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pisces_2010
    The man is insane and must be taken out of power immediately and citizens should be freed from murders and tortures. I hope if Americans were caught in such trap someone would rescue us as well. God bless all.
    It's not the job of the USA to fix Libya. It's the job of Libyans and perhaps their Arab allies. We're not the world's policeman. We can't fix all the world's problems.

    Besides, what happens when we do try to help? The rest of the world just complains about the USA sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong!! I'm sick and tired of the ingrates!!

    They made their bed, now let them lie in it!! Countries like Libya need to stop looking to the USA to fix their problems and take some responsibilty to fix it themselves!

    Or how about if other members of the "Arab world" help them, so the "great satan" doesn't "soil" their dirty desert sand with our "infidel" presence? Where's the Arab League? Why don't they help the Libyan people? Saudi Arabia is rich, why don't they help Libya?

    If Americans were caught in such a trap, we'd fight and fix it ourselves and not sit around waiting for someone else to do it for us. We fought the most powerful army in the world at the time to get our freedom.
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    So what happens when the Saudi's decide they've had enough dictatorship? When things get messy, I suppose we will go and bomb the hell outta them too?

    This is not a matter of saving innocent citizens - it's an excuse to go somewhere else we don't belong to get more oil and start more wars. The ripple effect from this boneheaded move might be what really sets the Arab world on fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patbrunz
    Quote Originally Posted by Pisces_2010
    The man is insane and must be taken out of power immediately and citizens should be freed from murders and tortures. I hope if Americans were caught in such trap someone would rescue us as well. God bless all.
    It's not the job of the USA to fix Libya. It's the job of Libyans and perhaps their Arab allies. We're not the world's policeman. We can't fix all the world's problems.

    Besides, what happens when we do try to help? The rest of the world just complains about the USA sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong!! I'm sick and tired of the ingrates!!

    They made their bed, now let them lie in it!! Countries like Libya need to stop looking to the USA to fix their problems and take some responsibilty to fix it themselves!

    Or how about if other members of the "Arab world" help them, so the "great satan" doesn't "soil" their dirty desert sand with our "infidel" presence? Where's the Arab League? Why don't they help the Libyan people? Saudi Arabia is rich, why don't they help Libya?

    If Americans were caught in such a trap, we'd fight and fix it ourselves and not sit around waiting for someone else to do it for us. We fought the most powerful army in the world at the time to get our freedom.
    My sentiments too. We must have been posting about the same time.

    That Twilight Zone theme is going thru my head again now. gahh.
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    Great minds think alike.

    For the last few years, it seems to me like we've been living in the Twilight Zone.
    All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke

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    This is sick

    We Must Kill Gooney Goo Goo's to Save Gooney Goo Goo's from the Gooney Goo Goo's

    Key: Replace Gooney Goo Goo's With

    Egyptians

    Serbians

    Syrians

    Iraqi's

    Afghanistan's

    Libians

    Pakistani's

    Iranians

    blah blah blah the list go's on and on

    the New Boggy Man will be invented next week and it will start all over again .. rinse and repeat

    We Must Kill Gooney Goo Goo's to Save Gooney Goo Goo's from the Gooney Goo Goo's

    Let any new wars be called the Gooney Goo Goo War

    as a reminder.. we need your money ~ Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security to pay for the Wars against the Gooney Goo Goo's to protect the Gooney Goo Goo's from Annihilation from the Gooney Goo Goo's

    We are the only ones that are allowed to Pulverize Gooney Goo Goo's

    The New List of Gooney Goo Goo's is already being formulated and it appears that the New and Improved list of Gooney Goo Goo's look a lot like

    Unemployed Semi Balding Middle Age White Christian Males as dictated by the DHS and the SPLC

    Oh ~ We reserve the right to go after any Gooney Goo Goo's even if we look like the Gooney Goo Goo's ourselves
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