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    Farmers fear Congress might crack down on illegal labor

    Farmers fear Congress might crack down on illegal labor.

    By ROB HOTAKAINEN

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    BURLINGTON, Wash. -- If you buy strawberry Haagen-Dazs ice cream, Steve Sakuma says, there's an 80 percent chance that you're going to get his berries, grown on some of the richest black soil in America, in northern Washington state, about 50 miles from the Canadian border.

    And he says there's a very good chance that you'd get berries handpicked by illegal immigrants, too.

    Wearing designer blue jeans and sunglasses, Sakuma, who's 65, surveyed his 250-acre strawberry plot outside Burlington earlier in July, pointing to 231 employees, most of them from Mexico, who were crouched down handpicking the fruit under a hot morning sun. He estimated that 80 percent of them were in the country illegally, even though they'd provided him with the necessary documents.

    Like throngs of other farmers nationwide who rely on illegal labor to harvest their crops, Sakuma fears that Congress doesn't understand the complexities of his operations. He said he'd promptly go out of business if lawmakers forced employers to electronically verify the immigration status of their employees. And he urged members of Congress to consider the ramifications carefully first.

    "These illegal immigrants, or whatever you want to call them, have been around for a long time," Sakuma said. "And guess what? They're not bad. They're just making a living. They're here doing what other people won't do. If you think that white America is going to come out here and pick these strawberries, you have been living in the dark for a long time."

    While farmers worry about the effects of a federal crackdown on illegal immigrants, backers of legislation that would require verification say it would finally force employers to operate legally and would represent a major first step in fixing the nation's tattered immigration system.

    Freshman Republican Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington state said a mandatory verification program would ensure that those who applied for jobs in the United States were "legally able" to take them while keeping employers accountable for their hiring.

    "The federal government has a constitutional responsibility to defend our borders," Herrera Beutler said. "Unfortunately, for years it has failed to live up to that responsibility."


    Mike Shelby, the executive director of the Western Washington Agricultural Association, said many producers in the state faced circumstances similar to Sakuma: "They're all vulnerable. ... We all agree that immigration reform needs to take place, but we have to be very careful how we approach it. Because if the first thing you do is interrupt the flow of labor for agriculture, you're taking an industry and putting it at tremendous risk."

    For Sakuma, the answer is obvious: Allow the workers, who are paid by the pound for their strawberry picking and earn an average of more than $10 an hour this season, to become legal Americans.

    "You call that amnesty or whatever you want to call it, it's just the right thing to do," he said. "We're responsible citizens, and we'll do what we believe is right, but change the damn law. That's the issue. Make it right."


    About 270,000 businesses use the federal E-Verify program voluntarily, and backers say that number could jump to nearly 6 million if it became mandatory.

    President Barack Obama endorsed the idea at a White House news conference in late June, saying he'd support requiring the use of E-Verify "if it's not riddled with errors" and if it's part of a comprehensive overhaul of immigration laws.

    While several pieces of legislation dealing with E-Verify have been introduced in the current Congress, the main bill is sponsored by Republican Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. He objects to the president's strategy, saying E-Verify is important enough to stand alone.

    Smith's bill, called the Legal Workforce Act, would require all employers to use the national database to confirm that workers are legal. He said it would open up millions of jobs for unemployed Americans. According to Smith, there are 24 million Americans who are unemployed or underemployed, while there are 7 million illegal immigrants working in the country.

    "It is not an immigration bill, it's a jobs bill," he said.


    Sakuma, one of eight owners of the Sakuma Brothers Farms, said farmers wanted a legal workforce "as much as anyone else" but that the system clearly was broken.

    To make the point, he told a story about how his farm was raided a few years back by federal authorities, who found that some of his employees were in the country illegally.

    "They hauled them down to the border," Sakuma said. "Three days later, they were standing in our office, but they had a different name and a different Social Security number."

    Sakuma said he consulted with two immigration lawyers in Seattle: "Both of them told me the same thing. 'You have no choice but to hire them back. If they provide you with a name and they provide you a Social Security number, you have no choice but to believe them.' "

    With so many politicians talking about border security, Sakuma worries that Congress will pass the mandatory E-Verify legislation. He just wants members to consider the consequences on farmers across the country.

    "It's a tough issue. It's very complex, very complicated and it's very politicized," Sakuma said. "And I understand politics. But is that really what you want? If they had E-Verify here, you'd shut us down. Absolutely."


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    It is not just the farmers who want to protect the illegal aliens.

    Politicians need them for their voting blocks.
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    You can use

    AGAIN, You can use Prison inmate labor. This is an outstanding idea for several wonderful reasons.

    1. It gets the criminals out of their cells as they are bored to death. They would love the idea.

    2. Its cheap. A LOT cheaper than Illegal Aliens. Give the workers a big steak dinner for doing a good job and maybe a pack of smokes and they are happy as a clam.

    3. It gets the criminals out of the negative, hardening prison culture that twists them and turns them into even more dangerous people.

    4. WE DONT NEED ILLEGAL ALIEN LABOR ANY MORE.

    5. It teaches criminals knowledge and skills in areas from biology, ecology, to Agriculture. Todays criminals could be tomorrows farmers.

    Anyone else like to add a few? These alone would make it a no brainer for me...

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    Steve Sakuma, Sakuma Brothers Farms
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    If you buy strawberry Haagen-Dazs ice cream, Steve Sakuma says, there's an 80 percent chance that you're going to get his berries, grown on some of the richest black soil in America, in northern Washington state, about 50 miles from the Canadian border.

    And he says there's a very good chance that you'd get berries handpicked by illegal immigrants, too.

    Wearing designer blue jeans and sunglasses, Sakuma, who's 65, surveyed his 250-acre strawberry plot outside Burlington earlier in July, pointing to 231 employees, most of them from Mexico, who were crouched down handpicking the fruit under a hot morning sun. He estimated that 80 percent of them were in the country illegally, even though they'd provided him with the necessary documents.

    Like throngs of other farmers nationwide who rely on illegal labor to harvest their crops, Sakuma fears that Congress doesn't understand the complexities of his operations. He said he'd promptly go out of business if lawmakers forced employers to electronically verify the immigration status of their employees. And he urged members of Congress to consider the ramifications carefully first.

    "These illegal immigrants, or whatever you want to call them, have been around for a long time," Sakuma said. "And guess what? They're not bad. They're just making a living. They're here doing what other people won't do. If you think that white America is going to come out here and pick these strawberries, you have been living in the dark for a long time." *-/-
    *For Sakuma, the answer is obvious: Allow the workers, who are paid by the pound for their strawberry picking and earn an average of more than $10 an hour this season, to become legal Americans.

    "You call that amnesty or whatever you want to call it, it's just the right thing to do," he said. "We're responsible citizens, and we'll do what we believe is right, but change the damn law. That's the issue. Make it right."


    He sounds like a racist Japanese who can not see the needs of his country beyond the bottom line of his current choice of crops.

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    Re: You can use

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulRevere9
    AGAIN, You can use Prison inmate labor. This is an outstanding idea for several wonderful reasons.
    =============================

    EXACTLY, and back in the day prison labor WAS used in the private and public sectors for rehabilitation.

    PROBLEM: The United States now INCARCERATES more people than ANY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. And it is about to get even worse. Not only are we a DEBTOR NATION, but we are also a PRISON NATION.

    Our 'War on Terror' has become a 'War on Tommy.'

    The Prison Industry is HUGE, generating BILLION$ each year in gross earnings. And it is paid for (AGAIN) with the TAX DOLLAR.

    Greed and corruption have made this country as undesirable place to live as Mexico. Well, almost .. but soon.

    In fact, Mexicans are now even beginning to jump this ship full of rats because Mexico is now better off financially than the United States of Aztlan is.

    It will only get worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanTreeFarmer

    Steve Sakuma, Sakuma Brothers Farms
    360.757.6611

    He sounds like a racist Japanese who can not see the needs of his country beyond the bottom line of his current choice of crops.
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    No, he sounds like EVERY FARMER and labor intensive business owner who wants to stay in business.

    Like every other labor intensive industry in the US, they have been COMPLETELY OVERRUN by ILLEGAL ALIENS and *CANNOT COMPETE TO STAY IN BUSINESS * unless they hire (cheap) illegal alien labor from Mexico.

    This is a FACT, any which way you shake or spin it.

    WHY?

    This is why, and it is RAMPANT throughout BOTH CORRUPT and GREEDY political parties:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acb-NwLcpgA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg0T7iYk87I
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