Trump birth certificate that wasn’t official UPDATE

Tue Mar 29, 11:31 am ET

Trump produced birth certificate that wasn't official

By Rachel Rose Hartman
Tue Mar 29, 11:31 am ET

Real estate magnate Donald Trump thought he was really sticking it to Barack Obama yesterday by releasing his own birth certificate. The idea, of course, was for The Donald to show that he could easily obtain and show proof of his natural-born citizenship--something Obama hasn't done, according to Trump and those in the "birther" movement.

But now, reports indicate that the reality star's birth certificate wasn't the real deal.

The document Trump released to the conservative news site Newsmax was issued by the Jamaica Queens hospital where Trump was born. But official birth certificates for New York City are only issued by the city Department of Health, the Smoking Gun notes.

Politico's Maggie Haberman called city officials about Trump's document. They confirmed that a valid birth certificate from New York includes the Department of Health's seal and a signature from the city registrar. "City officials said it's not an official document," in reference to the paper that Trump released, Haberman reported via Ben Smith.

Trump, who is considering a 2012 presidential campaign, recently revealed he shares doubts held by "birthers"--those who incorrectly believe the president isn't a natural born citizen.

Trump boasted to Fox's Greta Van Susteren Monday: "Somebody asked to see my birth certificate, and I had it in my hands in less than an hour."

Of course, that was before this latest revelation about the status of Trump's document. Now it remains to be seen whether this self-proclaimed birther sympathizer will become the target of conspiracy theories about the circumstances of his own birth.

UPDATE 12:30pm: Trump aide Michael Cohen told CNN that the release of the unofficial document instead of the official one was an oversight. "In order to rectify the oversight, I am sure he will either find his original birth certificate or order another one and release it," Cohen said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket ... t-official

Well, at least Donald's has the doctor's name and signature on it, unlike the thing Obama calls "official" and "proof of citizenship".

Dixie

Wasn't Obama's supposedly Birth Certificate issued by a Hospital ? So does this prove Obama's Birth Certificate is Unofficial too ?

Donald Trump releases birth certificate

By MAGGIE HABERMAN |
3/29/11 1:58 PM EDT Updated: 3/29/11 4:45 PM EDT

Welcome to Donald Trump's birth certificate, the sequel.

A day after the presidential tease released what he said was his birth certificate — a document that POLITICO found was not actually official — Trump produced the real thing for ABC News. The network's website showed an image of the actual, New York City-issued certificate, a grainy microfilm production.

Trump released the initial document as part of his his spotlight-seeking effort to push the debunked "birther" argument about President Barack Obama, as he has repeatedly raised questions in recent days about where Obama was born — and gotten plenty of airtime for it.

An aide to the real estate mogul told ABC News that "a 'birth certificate' and a 'certificate of live birth' are in no way the same thing, even though in some cases they use some of the same words. ... One officially confirms and records a newborn child’s identity and details of his or her birth, while the other only confirms that someone reported the birth of a child."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/52148.html

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Got to admit, that's what mine from the local records office and someone I know from out of state looks like but both have embossed official state seals. I believe you can get a better copy from the state registrar but it will cost you time and money to get it.

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Wasn't Obama's supposedly Birth Certificate issued by a Hospital ? So does this prove Obama's Birth Certificate is Unofficial too ?

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Nope. It's his Hawaiian "certification of live birth" and doesn't have much more than a date and parents on it. It is not his official record of birth.

Dixie

My "Official" birth certificate is an old photo copy of the document that has 3 different hand writings filling in the info.
It looks so fake I wouldn't accept it if I didn't know me. 8)

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Pawlenty: Obama's birth certificate no issue

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-232829.html

Has anyone seen Palin's birth certificate? 8)

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Got to admit, that's what mine from the local records office and someone I know from out of state looks like but both have embossed official state seals. I believe you can get a better copy from the state registrar but it will cost you time and money to get it.

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Wasn't Obama's supposedly Birth Certificate issued by a Hospital ? So does this prove Obama's Birth Certificate is Unofficial too ?

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Nope. It's his Hawaiian "certification of live birth" and doesn't have much more than a date and parents on it. It is not his official record of birth.

Dixie

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Here is an excellent compilation of overwhelming evidence of Obama's illegitimacy. It doesn't take rocket science to know that there is a good reason that Obama is hiding his past.
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A Catalog of Evidence - Concerned Americans Have Good Reason to Doubt that Putative President Obama Was Born in Hawaii

http://www.scribd.com/doc/32486123/A-Ca ... Born-in-HI

This document was updated March 28, 2011 (yesterday). The doc is 28 pages in length.

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Pawlenty cited CNN's coverage of the "birther" issue.

The network said:

It should be noted that CNN and other news organizations have thoroughly debunked the rumors about the president's birthplace. Hawaii has released a copy of the president's birth certificate - officially called a "certificate of live birth" -- and the hospital where he was born took out ads in two Hawaiian newspapers in 1961 announcing the birth.

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-232829.html

Trump is a publicity hound. I seriously doubt he cares one way or another about Obama's birth certificate or place of birth. IMO, he's mainly out to draw attention to himself. Personally, I think Trump is a joke. I'll apologize ahead of time for any hurt feelings my comment may cause.

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Good point :wink:

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Pawlenty cited CNN's coverage of the "birther" issue.

The network said:

It should be noted that CNN and other news organizations have thoroughly debunked the rumors about the president's birthplace. Hawaii has released a copy of the president's birth certificate - officially called a "certificate of live birth" -- and the hospital where he was born took out ads in two Hawaiian newspapers in 1961 announcing the birth.

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-232829.html

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Pawlenty is both a fool and a pawn. He knows the truth but for political reasons is downplaying it. This alone gives me pause about backing him.

John McCain had to provide his birth certificate, the Democrats demanded it, it created such a stir that no demanded Obam provide his.

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John McCain had to provide his birth certificate, the Democrats demanded it, it created such a stir that no demanded Obam provide his.

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Obama's father was a documented British national at the time of Obama's birth. This fact ALONE makes him constitutionally ineligible under the Natural Born Citizen clause. Biggest scandal in American history.

TexasBorn wrote,

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Pawlenty is both a fool and a pawn. He knows the truth but for political reasons is downplaying it. This alone gives me pause about backing him.

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Wow. That sure was an easy hit. Lets hope more are so easily trapped.

Perhaps the media will ask these politicians about the "natural born citizen" clause as well? Now that would be a real barn burner.

Such simple questions can lead to eye opening answers. :lol:

I was waiting to hear what Pawlenty was going to say about this issue, as Hannity said he was downplaying the whole issue. Of course Hannity is in the same camp.

Still will have ears open to see if Trump will bring up the NBC issue..... :?:

Conan O'Brien
Donald Trump is hinting he might be running for president.
He released his birth certificate.
It lists his eyes as "blue" and his hair as "ridiculous."