Utter Nonsense From Ron Paul

Utter Nonsense From Ron Paul
Friday, December 21, 2007 by Ric

Utter Nonsense From Ron Paul

Gary Bauer’s End-of-day Report | 12-20-07 | Gary Bauer
The Associated Press reports that while campaigning in New Hampshire yesterday, Congressman Ron Paul said that if he is elected president he will end economic sanctions on Iran and withdraw the U.S. Navy from nearby waters.

I am not surprised. On September 25th of this year when the House of Representatives voted 397-to-16 to impose economic sanctions on Iran, Paul was one of the 16 “noâ€

Gary Bauer??? Gary Bauer?? Is he the same Gary Bauer who is a religious nutjob????

The Truth?
From someone who uses the term "Islamofascism"?
And I bet Gary Bauer believed Bush when he said we may be looking at WWIII with Iran's WMD's.
And then, Intelligence Report says, ahem, there aren't any.
Kinda' like Iraq.

But Iran is still flowing with vast oil fields, so there's a method to the madness of U.S. evangelists donating money to the Jewish population in Iran in order for them to flee the country before it's attacked.

Because we need to rule the world by having our hands on the oil-rich land. So I'm sure Bush will find a way around the tentative stop on invading Iran. And whatever will scare the American people will suffice, no matter how construed or exaggerated.

and who said a little rock n roll was "anti-family"? oh yeah, Gary Bauer.
Is Bush anti-family, because he's killing off Americans and Iraqis in a war that doesn't end because.....because......well, we got Saddam, no leads on Bin Laden.....and we're still there even though they don't want us there, because...ummm...democracy?

We're losing our democracy over here, what about us Mr. President?

Why don't you try reading something that doesn't come from a fanatical who has an ulterior agenda, sir?

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Originally Posted by nntrixie

Gary Bauer??? Gary Bauer?? Is he the same Gary Bauer who is a religious nutjob????

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That would be the one, Trixie... :roll:

lol.....too funny. They got nothing on RP.

MW:

I was perusing the post about the national ID act.
After seeing your views (if they really are your views, not just rhetoric that you hear and spew forth without thinking it over), along with other views on other subjects....

Well I have to say that I don't even care to read them or respond anymore (and I've only been on here a couple days). Clearly, the thoughts that I see posted by you are frankly quite scary and i don't see any redeemable, critical thinking, pro-American thought processes anywhere. Ofcourse you are absolutely entitled to your opinions, as I am mine. I am truly scared of this kind of thought process however, as I am truly scared for the future of this country.

I realize that this is meaningless to you. However, I just wanted to state my feelings on this "out loud".

I think MW is pandering to the CFRs.
Duncan Hunter is not even registered in all states. So he has no chance. Tancredo is out of the race. What was let ? THE CFR GUYS.
Every garbagethe most crazy lies the MSM accuse him, MW endorse and find a way to bring, thinking it could hurt Dr. Paul, HE IS WRONG. The REVOLUTION IS REAL, we trust the only real canditate we have for president.

Are the facts presented not accurate? Was Paul and his buddy Dennis Kucinich not the only two in the U.S. House that voted against condemning Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for his denial of the Holocaust? Please tell me, did this not happen? Perhaps you'll also choose to deny that Paul was one of the sixteen that voted against imposing economic sanctions on Iran. Excuse me for attempting to present the facts. It's beyond me why some folks around here have decided to wear blinders when facts they don't find agreeable are provided on Paul.

Who the individual is that presented this information has absolutely nothing to do with the actual facts that were presented. Heck, I don't like this Bauer character either, but unfortunately the two facts he presented that I elaborated on above are documented fact.

If you've got a problem with the facts as presented, dispute them when possible with your own argument. Personally attacking me for posting them is preposterous and reeks of self-deception. :wink:

Dr. Paul is against any action wich doesn't complay with the Constitution.
Meddelin in other countries policy is not his way of making laws .
Now in Pakistan do we have to get involved there too ?
Dr. Paul does not agree.
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In another thread I asked MW if he would vote for a CFR candidate if endorsed by Hunter. No reply!

I have faith that Tom Tancredo was taking his low percentage and terrible treatment by the MSM to take Romney out. If he had endorsed RP the MSM would may have had their fun (what they think).

Duncan Hunter from what I've seen has not had the bad treatment Tom Tancredo has recieve unfortunately the MSM just ignors D. Hunter. Conclusion I think this leaves the door open for Hunter to settle his differences with RP and pull support for him. Since I believe RP will win this election D. Hunter could difinitely get a position on the staff if not Vice.

At this point I think some of the Democratic candidates who support RP will help as well. If RP gets the Republican nomination DH would be in line for Vice. If RP runs as an Independent (I think he will have to with all the funds) then an Independent or another Party will be the Vice. Either way RP wins!

MO

Minnie wrote:

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Dr. Paul is against any action wich doesn't complay with the Constitution.

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With all respect, Minnie, that excuse is getting a little over utilized, don't you think? Everything Paul does that some may find questionable can't be hidden under the U.S. Constitution. Now, please tell me exactly how the two items I identified are unconstitutional - I'm all ears (or should I say eyes). :)

sturmrugar wrote:

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In another thread I asked MW if he would vote for a CFR candidate if endorsed by Hunter. No reply!

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Perhaps I missed it or maybe I didn't think it warranted a response. Regardless, if you had been around here long enough to really know me, you wouldn't have asked that question. :wink:

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Duncan Hunter from what I've seen has not had the bad treatment Tom Tancredo has recieve unfortunately the MSM just ignors D. Hunter. Conclusion I think this leaves the door open for Hunter to settle his differences with RP and pull support for him. Since I believe RP will win this election D. Hunter could difinitely get a position on the staff if not Vice.

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Nope, not going to happen. Paul would never consider Hunter as a VP. Furthermore, I don't think Hunter would accept even if asked.

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Are the facts presented not accurate? Was Paul and his buddy Dennis Kucinich not the only two in the U.S. House that voted against condemning Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for his denial of the Holocaust? Please tell me, did this not happen? Perhaps you'll also choose to deny that Paul was one of the sixteen that voted against imposing economic sanctions on Iran. Excuse me for attempting to present the facts. It's beyond me why some folks around here have decided to wear blinders when facts they don't find agreeable are provided on Paul.

Who the individual is that presented this information has absolutely nothing to do with the actual facts that were presented. Heck, I don't like this Bauer character either, but unfortunately the two facts he presented that I elaborated on above are documented fact.

If you've got a problem with the facts as presented, dispute them when possible with your own argument. Personally attacking me for posting them is preposterous and reeks of self-deception. :wink:

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Why do the US has to sanction Iran, we pay enough money and give enough support to the UN, Let them sanction, also let them condemn
Ahmadinejab.
"Mind our own business" this is Dr. Paul's policy.
Congress was condemning Turkey not long ago for the Armenian genocide that happened so long ago. What does the US have to worry about the world? "mind our own business"

PAUL IS AGAINST THIS WAR HUNTER IS FOR

JMO, but economic sanctions haven't done a bit of good in other countries, what makes this Bauer character or anyone else think they'll do any good in Iran? Hasn't it been shown that economic sanctions hurt the PEOPLE of a nation while having NO EFFECT on the government of that nation? Could someone who SUPPORTS economic sanctions provide an example of where they've achieved their desired effect?

As for a vote to condemn Ahmadinejad, exactly what purpose does this action have? Does it have any force of law, or even have any kind of consequence? Or is it more of the Kabuki dance our Congress does when it sits totally impotent but wants to score points with 'the folks back home'?

With those two thoughts as a basis, and until someone who supports these actions can show me where either of them might actually have some positive effect, I'd have to conclude that neither one of these votes means a damned thing, and it's a shame that people are trying to make value judgments based upon this trivial BS.

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PAUL IS AGAINST THIS WAR HUNTER IS FOR

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There is no other Candidate that I can think of on the Republican side who is not CFR affiliated so RP will have to select an Independent or someone from another Party. Tancredo made his stance known and evidently Hunter and Paul will not be able to sort out their differences.

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Originally Posted by freeamerica

The Truth?

From someone who uses the term "Islamofascism"?
And I bet Gary Bauer believed Bush when he said we may be looking at WWIII with Iran's WMD's.
And then, Intelligence Report says, ahem, there aren't any.
Kinda' like Iraq.

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Are you saying islamofacism doesn't exist? Are you trying to tell me that the deliberate, systematic oppression of people of other faiths in islamofacist theocracies is just a figment of everyone's imagination? Are you saying all islamic countries don't practice sharia law and impose it on everyone else regardless of their faith?

Freeamerica,

I understand that the term 'islamofascism' has been misused by neocons. However as a European I can guarantee you that islamofascism is real and is devouring Europe.

In the UK young girls are groomed by gangs officially described as "multicultural" because they are non-muslims. In France cities are being torched by deprived "youths". In Sweden blond girls are using dark dye to change the color of their hairs because being blond means that you will be raped in certain neighborhoods. In Norway certain priest of certain religion of peace which also happens to lead certain terrorist group in Iraq threatens to exterminate all Norwegians in case he will be expelled from their country where he gained an asylum by deception.

Islamofascism is pretty real and life threatening.

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Originally Posted by freeamerica

The Truth?
From someone who uses the term "Islamofascism"?
And I bet Gary Bauer believed Bush when he said we may be looking at WWIII with Iran's WMD's.
And then, Intelligence Report says, ahem, there aren't any.
Kinda' like Iraq.

But Iran is still flowing with vast oil fields, so there's a method to the madness of U.S. evangelists donating money to the Jewish population in Iran in order for them to flee the country before it's attacked.

Because we need to rule the world by having our hands on the oil-rich land. So I'm sure Bush will find a way around the tentative stop on invading Iran. And whatever will scare the American people will suffice, no matter how construed or exaggerated.

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