Thread: 4 Key Reasons why USA doesn't Need Public Unions!

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[size=18]End the Privileged Class- 4 key reasons why America doesn't need public unions anymore!

End the Privileged Class - Mark McKinnon, The Daily Beast

With the Wisconsin showdown at a fever pitch, Mark McKinnon says America doesn’t need public unions anymore—they silence voters’ choice, redistribute wealth, and clog the political system.



The manufactured Madison, Wis., mob is not the movement the White House was hoping for.



Both may find themselves at the wrong end of the populist pitchfork. While I generally defend collective bargaining and private-sector unions (lots of airline pilots in my family), it is the abuse by public unions and their bosses that pushes centrists like me to the GOP.



It is the right and duty of citizens to petition their government. The Tea Party and Republicans seek to limit government growth to protect their pocketbooks.

Public-union bosses want to increase the cost of government to protect their racket.



1. Public unions are big money.
Public unions are big money. Paul Krugman is correct: we do need “some counterweight to the political power of big money.â€

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Here's another reason: teachers' unions are harmful to children. In Milwaukee, the teacher of the year was let go because she did not have seniority. Yes, Milwaukee, where the graduation rate is 46%. Where hiring and firing is determined by the union and membership in the union is mandatory.

The only people who do not stand to gain by having unions are the rich. Part of the reason our economy is in the tank is low wages. Now they want to take the last people making a decent living and make them poor.

Consumers are the backbone of the economy. Without disposable income from workers, the economy will just sink further into the darkness. Part of the reason states and city agencies are broke is because of low wages. Many private sector workers dont even make enough to pay tax. And the money they should get paid, but dont, is money not going into the economy...therefore...less sales tax too.

We are on a downward spiral. Public union workers do not make that much money. They only make good money in comparison to the slave wages everyone else is getting. The goal should not be to reduce public worker wages, but to increase wages in the private sector to match public workers. Without increasing wages, this country has no chance. The rich will get even richer and the poor will get even poorer.

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Originally Posted by cjbl2929

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To see union workers, public or private, as a "privileged" class is looking at the situation in the wrong light. That is the way the union busters want you to see it. They want to pit workers against each other....divide and conquer.

In reality, union workers, public or private, are not privileged or overpaid or over compensated. In reality, non union workers are under privileged and underpaid. What the union busters want is for EVERYONE TO WORK FOR SLAVE WAGES. By pitting us against each other, they use us in their fight against the American worker. They want all the power, and want us workers to have no power. No matter how poor we get, it will not be poor enough for them.

Making workers strong, makes our economy strong. The more disposable income we have, the more can be spent into the economy....and so on. The higher our wages, the more income tax we pay and the more sales tax. When that happens, state and city agencies have more money. Right now, they want to bust the unions which will give all the money to the few and starving the masses.

love/hate relationship with unions. Charges levied in OP are accurate and serious. However I am extremely dismayed at the current dialogue occurring in this nation. Media incites citizen against citizen to drag all down to nothing. Today I momentarily listened to the RushShill (guest host) attack the benefits of policemen as well as the young retirement age possible (age 50.) OMG. These people never know if today is their day to die. In our major cities they have been targeted for decades by organized gangs and gangsters. The job is extremely high stress and it does take a toll on the body. The potential of early retirement is necessary to hire and retain good officers. We never know what is going to happen to our body, if we will be the one who thrives on the stress or succumbs to it.

Regarding the teachers in Wisconsin - what overkill. If there is no money the union can collective bargain all they want - can't get blood from a stone. So I just see this as a manufactured drive to pit citizen against citizen, unmindful of the consequences, just to take our displaced anger out on each other in a mad race to anarchy. Obama needs to walk the talk now. The real robber barons are safe for a moment longer while we attack each other.

Yes I hate unions. It is quite obvious that many locals are run like mini-fiefdoms and one can note how wealthy the local officers become. They are run like cash cows for the officers, not for the true needs of the workers. If you doubt me the evidence is in that the unions have done nothing to work on, develop or promote new and necessary laws protecting workers, nor do they work on enforcing existing laws on the books that are perhaps ambiguous, they are not making legal precedent on behalf of workers, NOPE they only enforce the ones that can mean money in their pocket. Sometimes it appears that management works with the union to violate specific laws for the kickback they will get. Legal violations that have no financial penalty associated with them are ignored to the detriment of the workers. So yes we have some problems with our unions that need fixing but I don't see a problem inherent to the concept of collective bargaining per se. The corruption runs rampant through our government offices of EEOC & Labor Relations Board. Their true functionality is extremely suspect but as usual, the government always reports very favorably on itself.

Really I perceived the Wisconsin action as just rubbing their faces in the dirt. The governor has removed any hope for a better future and let it be out in the open that we are all now slaves merely working to eat and it is just a matter of time that we all end up on that level.

Historically public service workers were considered and paid like the C and D students in school. These were not jobs that people gravitated to. It was a job that you went to when you flunked private sector and traded opportunity for a low low wage and a little bit of security. The last several decades have seen a slash and burn policy on our private sector as well as an all out assault on the American worker that suddenly it seems that public service employees, who have not had any huge gains in recent decades, are suddenly eating pie every day and have it better than anyone else. No, what you are seeing is a true indicator of what has been done to our private sector jobs and to lash out in anger at public service workers just shows me how developed your thought process is . . . NOT!