Who can get a copy of the long form birth certificate.
I must thank all who have posted on this thread. I just found it linked on WND. I read every post and learned a few things I was not already aware of.
When the Rep. Gov. of Hawaii sealed the birth certificate for Pres. Elect Uh-bama she gave a clue as to who could get access to it.
"Those listed as entitled to obtain a copy of an original birth certificate include the person born, or "registrant" according to the legal description from the governor's office, the spouse or parent of the registrant, a descendant of the registrant, a person having a common ancestor with the registrant, a legal guardian of the registrant, or a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant."
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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79174
The important line is
a person having a common ancestor with the registrant,
That person is Vice President Cheney
"But could it be possible that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and Vice President Dick Cheney share a common ancestor?
Cheney's wife Lynne says yes.
In an interview on MSNBC Tuesday afternoon, Mrs. Cheney said that in the course of researching her husband's genealogy for her new book, "Blue Skies, No Fences," she discovered that the two public figures share an ancestor eight generations ago."
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...obama-related/
I think it is odd that Gov. Lingle would throw out that life line and no one picked up on it. I sent an email to Rush, Hannity, and Jerome Corsi of WND. No response from anyone as of yet.
Be Blessed
Re: Who can get a copy of the long form birth certificate.
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Originally Posted by armbruster512
I must thank all who have posted on this thread. I just found it linked on WND. I read every post and learned a few things I was not already aware of.
When the Rep. Gov. of Hawaii sealed the birth certificate for Pres. Elect Uh-bama she gave a clue as to who could get access to it.
"Those listed as entitled to obtain a copy of an original birth certificate include the person born, or "registrant" according to the legal description from the governor's office, the spouse or parent of the registrant, a descendant of the registrant, a person having a common ancestor with the registrant, a legal guardian of the registrant, or a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant."
Quoted from
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79174
The important line is
a person having a common ancestor with the registrant,
That person is Vice President Cheney
"But could it be possible that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and Vice President Dick Cheney share a common ancestor?
Cheney's wife Lynne says yes.
In an interview on MSNBC Tuesday afternoon, Mrs. Cheney said that in the course of researching her husband's genealogy for her new book, "Blue Skies, No Fences," she discovered that the two public figures share an ancestor eight generations ago."
Quoted from
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...obama-related/
I think it is odd that Gov. Lingle would throw out that life line and no one picked up on it. I sent an email to Rush, Hannity, and Jerome Corsi of WND. No response from anyone as of yet.
Be Blessed
There's a little more to the story about the report that the Gov.of Hawai'i or a Judge "sealed" the original birth record shortly after the October hearing in Hawaiian court on the Martin lawsuit. It's not clear if Andy Martin, or Phil Berg, or someone else started that rumor. But it got reported at the Sonoran, a newspaper in Arizona.
http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/200 ... Judge.html
If you scroll down into that link, you'll find that the newspaper was contacted by the State of Hawai'i -- shortly after reporting about the story -- and the e-mail from Hawaii asked for a retraction, and informed the Sonoran that there had been no sealing. The newspaper left the story standing, and just printed what it had gotten from Hawaii. The letter from the state government went on to specify what the rules were, for obtaining original birth certificates, and why privacy laws prevented just anybody asking for someone else's certificate. The Sonoran news article had been written by Linda Bentley.
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Aloha
We would like to request an immediate retraction in Linda Bentley's Oct. 29 article "Judge dismisses Obama lawsuit over lack of standing; Hawaii Governor Linda Lingle seals Obama's birth records."
The subhead, and the statement in the article, "Lingle placed Obama’s birth records under seal and instructed the Hawaii Department of Health, under no condition may it provide access to the original document unless Obama authorizes it to be released," are not true.
The Governor did not make any order relating to this matter. Vital records are administered through the state Department of Health.
Under Hawaii state law (Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-18 ), copies of vital records may only be released to those who have a tangible relationship to the person whose record is being sought.
Neither the Governor's office, nor any other office in the State of Hawai'i, can provide information concerning birth certificates, or produce birth certificates, to anyone except those who are listed in the law governing vital statistics records. Vital statistics records, such as birth certificates, are protected by strict confidentiality requirements. Specifically, pursuant to section 338-18, Hawaii Revised Statutes (HRS), the Department of Health, which maintains these records, may not allow the inspection of a birth certificate, or issue a certified copy of a birth certificate, or disclose any information contained in a birth certificate, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record:
(a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.
(b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:
(1) The registrant;
(2) The spouse of the registrant;
(3) A parent of the registrant;
(4) A descendant of the registrant;
(5) A person having a common ancestor with the registrant;
(6) A legal guardian of the registrant;
(7) A person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;
(8 ) A personal representative of the registrant’s estate;
(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;
(10) Adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and who need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted child’s natural or legal parents;
(11) A person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;
(12) A person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and
(13) A person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy.
You can find the complete statute at http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscur..._0338-0018.htm
In addition, the Hawaii Supreme Court has issued an order denying Mr. Andy Martin's petition to have the document releaesed. The Courty's order is attached.
Thank you.
Therefore, claims you might read about on the Internet, to the effect that there was ever a "sealing" of the original certificate to keep it from being seen or released, are not true. The declination to publicly release it stems from privacy laws, and not from any sealing.
Re: Who can get a copy of the long form birth certificate.
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Originally Posted by State of Hawai'i
(b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:
(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;
Who could ask for more?