Re: Time to tell the truth?
Highlander, Obama could be just sitting back and laughing with all the focus on his controversial birth status. I contend that it's time now for a two pronged front. It's clear to me now that he has no intention of coming clean on the one front and it make become stalemated... so perhaps it's time to crank up the heat on the second front. I agree with you that a second term is in doubt but we shouldn't underestimate Obama and the DNC. They have proven themselves to be clever criminals and con artists. That much is evident. Americans have begun to loosen their blinders a bit as is demonstrated in BO's declining poll numbers and it's time to shine the blinding truth in their eyes and show once and for all what our government and MSM have heretofore been so successful at...hiding the truth in plain sight! I believe the tools and evidence for making the second front a reality are all around us. We have just been too afraid of using them up to this point. PC be damned, it's time to remove the gloves!
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Originally Posted by TexasBorn
Highlander, I say it's time to take off the gloves. We've become so PC and afraid to confront a "black President" that the truth now lies hidden... in plain view! Enough!
It seems we have been focusing on the natural born citizenship situation, and that pursuit has been pretty effective. We certainly know much more today than we have in the past, and we may actually be closer to blowing Obama's birth secrecy and eligibility claims.
But, having said that, we have totally ignored many of the other events in Obama's life that have been slimy and or criminal, and maybe we should do as Pamela and you suggest - go for the throat.
The FBI case against Rod Blago might be a good place to start, just in case there were some compromising comments or involvement by the big O. Chicago must have a lot of answers for us.
I don't think this guy has more than one term anyway - there is just not enough American support for him anymore. I still want to get him out sooner if at all possible.
Too bad the press doesn't practice investigative journalism anymore. We could certainly use their help.
“Come, Watson, come!" he cried. "The game is afoot."
Re: natural born American citizen
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Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan
After some thought, the Hawaiian conspiracy appears to continue. Now that Dr. Fukino has 'verified' that Barack Obama is a "natural born American citizen", I have a few questions for DHS and for the good doctor:
1. By what legal authority did Dr. Fukino 'verify' that Barack Obama is a "natural born American citizen," a specific legal federal definition?
2. Why didn't Dr. Fukino use the term 'natural born United States citizen?'
3. Because of widespread confusion regarding the term 'natural born citizenship,' what is the legal definition of "natural born American citizen" used by Dr. Fukino in her specific statement of Mr. Obama's verification?
4. Who was Barack Obama's father listed on Obama's birth certificate?
5. Because a child's "natural born citizenship" is determined in part by the father's citizenship, was Barack Obama's father known by Dr. Fukino or DHS to be a U.S. citizen at the time of Barack Obama's birth?
Surely Dr. Fukino, in the abyss of the maelstrom, understands the natural born citizen controversy and the implications of divided loyalties, dual citizenship, and having only one parent a U.S. citizen. Her willingness to make such a comment indicates:
a) she didn't actually read the occult birth document and chooses to lie about reading it to keep the deception alive.
b) in violation of Hawaii law, she did read the contents of box 6a, "Place of Birth: City, town, or Rural Location" and seeing
........1) Mombasa, Nairobi, Kogelo, or another location in Kenya, she lied to keep up the deception; or
........2) Honolulu, she did read the contents of box 8, "Name of father," and
................a) seeing "Barack Hussein Obama Snr." named as the father,
........................1} she misspoke, not understanding the implications of having a parent who was a British protected subject; or
........................2} she lied to keep up the deception, knowing full well that having a parent who was a British protected subject disqualifed Barack Obama II from being a natural born citizen.
................b) seeing Frank Marshall Davis or Malcolm X named as the father, she said truthfully that Barack Obama II was a natural born citizen, born on soil under U.S. jurisdiction to a father and a mother who both were U.S. citizens.
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6. Will Hawaii DHS be similarly 'verifying' type of citizenship for all births hereafter, or was this a special situation?
7. Will Dr. Fukino now allow a forensic evaluation of Mr. Obama's birth certificate by an impartial federal agency like the FBI?
Legally, and until this time, United States citizenship has been determined by the federal government, and no state department or agency of any state has been empowered to define, classify, or 'verify' U.S. citizenship status.
Is this why the phrase "natural born American citizen" was used by Dr. Fukino?
Is U.S. citizenship "verification" a new state power or authority for the states, and if so, where did this power or authority come from (the power and authority has certainly NOT been defined in the U.S. Constitution)?
HighlanderJuan, you may recall that citizenship was originally not an enumerated power under the Constitution nor even defined therein, and therefore it was within the purview of each individual state to pass and to enforce its own citizenship, nationality, and immigration statutes. The new Federal government ostensibly had to pass uniform regulations only to effectuate reciprocity among the states.
However, the Federalist ideal of a weak central government died along with the Framers of the Constitution. The authority and responsibility of each individual state to make and enforce its own citizenship and immigration regulations probably ceased during the period when the federal government effectively suspended, revoked, or made of none effect Amendments IX and X.
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Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Re: natural born American citizen
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HighlanderJuan, you may recall that citizenship was originally not an enumerated power under the Constitution nor even defined therein, and therefore it was within the purview of each individual state to pass and to enforce its own citizenship, nationality, and immigration statutes. The new Federal government ostensibly had to pass uniform regulations only to effectuate reciprocity among the states.
However, the Federalist ideal of a weak central government died along with the Framers of the Constitution. The authority and responsibility of each individual state to make and enforce its own citizenship and immigration regulations probably ceased during the period when the federal government effectively suspended, revoked, or made of none effect Amendments IX and X.
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Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
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I agree with you regarding state residency and state citizenship, but I don't believe the states have the power to define a person as a U.S. Citizen. We get our American passports from the feds, not from the states.
Re: natural born American citizen
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Originally Posted by HighlanderJuan
Thank you MinuteMan!
After some thought, the Hawaiian conspiracy appears to continue. Now that Dr. Fukino has 'verified' that Barack Obama is a "natural born American citizen" I have a few questions for DHS and for the good doctor:
1. By what legal authority did Dr. Fukino 'verify' that Barack Obama is a "natural born American citizen," a specific legal federal definition?
2. Why didn't Dr. Fukino use the term 'natural born United States citizen?'
3. Because of widespread confusion regarding the term 'natural born citizenship,' what is the legal definition of "natural born American citizen" used by Dr. Fukino in her specific statement of Mr. Obama's verification?
4. Who was Barack Obama's father listed on Obama’s birth certificate?
5. Because a child’s ‘natural born citizenship’ is determined in part by the father's citizenship, was Barack Obama's father known by Dr. Fukino or DHS to be a U.S. citizen at the time of Barack Obama's birth?
6. Will Hawaii DHS be similarly 'verifying' type of citizenship for all births hereafter, or was this a special situation?
7. Will Dr. Fukino now allow a forensic evaluation of Mr. Obama's birth certificate by an impartial federal agency like the FBI?
Legally, and until this time, United States citizenship has been determined by the federal government, and no state department or agency of any state has been empowered to define, classify, or 'verify' U.S. citizenship status.
Is this why the phrase ‘natural born American citizen’ was used by Dr. Fukino?
Is U.S. citizenship ‘verification’ a new state power or authority for the states, and if so, where did this power or authority come from (the power and authority has certainly NOT been defined in the U.S. Constitution)?
Donofrio ripped the good DOH bureaucrat a "new one" (as they say) for holding herself out to be possessed of a Supreme Court Justice shingle. He's gotten lively lately.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ... al-lawyer/
Re: natural born American citizen
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Thanks. Donofrio's comments to Dr. Fukino were excellent, even if they were a bit sarcastic.
And separately, it seems the Kenyan BC has gone viral. For one other post on Scribd.com, after 14 hours, the image had been viewed 34,200+ times. What a kick.
And finally, we come to the missing 13th Amendment. Anyone know about that?
"In June of this year (1991), Dodge uncovered the evidence that this missing 13th Amendment had indeed been lawfully ratified by the state of Virginia and was therefore an authentic Amendment to the American Constitution. If the evidence is correct and no logical errors have been made, a 13th Amendment restricting lawyers from serving in government was ratified in 1819 and removed from the U.S. Constitution during the tumult of the Civil War. Since the Amendment was never lawfully repealed, it is still the Law today."
You can read more on the subject here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18029501/The- ... -Amendment
It can't get much better than this.