Thread: SC Latino Leader Upset Over Change in Political Tide

This is the kind of bullcrap that the citizens and workers of South Carolina are forced to put up with because of our state leaders' failure to insure that our laws are enforced. And South Carolina's workers are bearing the brunt of that failure. The illegal aliens in this state are not undocumented as this reporter likes to say, they are simply criminals who decided to break our laws. They decided, knowingly, to come into our country without being invited. They are responsible for forcing thousands of us out of our jobs and businesses, illegally. Like myself. And if they are paying taxes in the jobs that they have stolen from us then it is because they are using fraudulent documents which is another crime.

And I am not an immigrant, I am a native born American citizen whose forefathers came to this state in the late 1700's. My wife happens to be a legal immigrant from the Philippines. Her and our daughter came here legally, they did not break any laws in the process.
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Latino leader upset over change in political tide
By Yvonne Wenger (Contact)
The Post and Courier
Wednesday, February 20, 2008




COLUMBIA — Diana Salazar hopes that when folks try to come up with ways to force illegal aliens out of South Carolina they stop to remember they're talking about human beings.
"We're here to voice an opinion to our legislators and the whole state of South Carolina to please touch your hearts and reconsider these laws," Salazar, president of the Latino Association of Charleston, said Tuesday in the Statehouse lobby.
She brought about a dozen immigrants, several of whom did not speak English, to weigh in on pending state legislation on the matter.

Diana Salazar (left) president of the Latino Association of Charleston, discusses her group's position on immigration reform during a news conference in the Statehouse lobby in Columbia on Tuesday.
The House and Senate are expected to begin negotiations shortly on the two final versions of the legislation that attempts to rein in hiring practices of public and private employers and ask the federal g overnment for authority to enforce immigration laws such as deportation, along with many other provisions
"Undocumented — not aliens because they are not from Mars," Salazar said. "They were not the cause of our terrorist attacks. They are not criminals. They just want to keep their families together."
Rep. Seth Whipper, D-North Charleston, said it is not too late for the Hispanic community to weigh in on the debate and he is anxious to hear their suggestions
"We really need to find out how that community feels about the matter and where they see conflict," Whipper said.
Sen. Randy Scott, R-Summerville, said he wouldn't be swayed by the Latino Association recounting the plight of illegal immigrants.
"They're clearly breaking the law," he said.
"Why should they be able to break the law and get away with it? They need to come here legally, pay taxes, speak and read English, and be willing to bear arms for this country."

Salazar, who is a third-generation American of Mexican heritage, said the issue of illegal immigration should be debated at the federal level. She said the state has many other issues to care for, and sees the change in tide after so many years of apparent indifference as "hypocritical."
"How many years have we Americans turned our face like this and let the flood come in? Have we seen that? Now, we're being hypocritical," Salazar said. "We're tying things up for our own benefit, for our chair, for our next election."
Many illegal immigrants want to be given the right to be issued South Carolina driver's licenses, and she wants to continue to see the state driver's manual offered in Spanish despite legislative efforts to print it and other state material in English only.
"For those who violate the law you have an address, you hav e an identity, you have a picture and they can be prosecuted as you and I can," Salazar said.
She also said that if the legislation becomes law it will dry up jobs for immigrants and hurt the state's economy because of the long hours they work for low pay. They contribute to the tax base through wage withholdings but do not claim income tax returns, she added.
"So where's the money going?" Salazar said.
Still, while Salazar said she does not disregard that illegal immigrants have violated the law, the United States was built on immigration and "it will continue to be a country of immigrants."
"We've got to understand these people are humans," Salazar said. "They just want a better life. It is not their fault that the Mexican government doesn't (offer) what you and I have."
Alejandro Dominguez of North Charleston, who crossed the Texas border illegally in 1986 and was later granted citizenship through amnesty, said the illegal immigrants he knows are not taking jobs f rom Americans, nor are they doing harm to them.
He is scared of what the legislation could do if it became law.
"I have a lot of friends and family I could lose," Dominguez said. "They're not criminals."
Dominguez said living in the United States offers immigrants a chance at a better life.
"It's like a dream for every Latino," he said.
Rep. Wallace Scarborough, R-James Island, said the legislation is not about treating people in an inhumane way. It's about abiding by the law.
"I am all for them being treated like their human beings — I also want them to be here legally," Scarborough said.
Reach Yvonne Wenger at (803) 799-9051 or ywenger@postandcourier.com.






(The Latino Association of Charleston formed about two years ago in response to organizers' concerns that the Hispanic community was being "blamed" for the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. The group, based in North Charleston, serves as an advocate for Hispanics.
For more information or to get help, call Diana Salazar, association president, at 530-8131. )

No one is saying they're not human, they just don't belong here.

They can work hard at making their home countries stronger for future generations, but they refuse to do that. Why? Perhaps because they would then have to support themselves and the many kids they produce? If we stop subsidizing them, they will leave. They don't hide the fact that they owe allegiance to their homelands and are only here to rape our social services system.

Contrary to Ms. Salazar's statement, Americans did not know how many illegals were here until the infamous May Day march in LA. The sleeping giant is fully awake, aware and angry now.

I for one could care less what Diane says . She broke a few laws so bye bye.
Only a total fool could fail to see the costs and problems with these invaders.
For once Graham stand up and act like a man and an American

loneprotester said:

Alejandro Dominguez of North Charleston, who crossed the Texas border illegally in 1986 and was later granted citizenship through amnesty, said the illegal immigrants he knows are not taking jobs f rom Americans, nor are they doing harm to them.

Yup -- just look at what that 1986 amnesty has wrought. New citizens who sympathize with illegal aliens and who want to offer amnesty to all of them.

Just imagine if all the 20-40 million illegals currently here get amnesty. They in turn will want to grant amnesty to the billions more who will pour in after them looking for the same thing.

I've been reading the BBC recently....they say the same things about the massive amount of migrants comming from Africa and Egypt...they deport them and they get back multiple times and finally, atleast in one article....they noted that like it or not...there simply wasn't enough jobs for all these people to do.....so now there's the push for the EU to help invest and fund businesses in the AU so they won't have to leave for work. They say the same things....they are targeting the blacks....if there's 2 whites and 1 black...they will ask the black for his papers. In other articles they say many of the migrants don't want to be citizens, they just want to send money back home so they can build a home, get some gold jewlery and maybe get married and move back.

I wasn't aware of this but there's been a building boom in the EU.....except their "boom" has reached it's peak too and they don't have the jobs anymore to cover all the "migrants" who are now out of work now. Some are self deporting, many aren't. Crime is rising. They don't have guns but there was a nice pic of all the knives they collect. Drugs smuggled in baby car seats, increased slave prostitution and the whole ball of wax we have here.
So now they are implementing an "earned citizenship" deal. Any place that had minimul or atleast acceptable amount of migrants are now being flooded with more...they try and enforce laws but there simply isn't the jobs to cover them all.

I'm thinking we need to start looking at this issue beyond how we've been looking at it.

As crazybird says, this is a worldwide situation. If you read/look at non-American media, it's the same thing. This is where I agree with Ralph Nader. Immigration/illegal immigration is part of worldwide economic injustice. This is what I feel Ron Paul was saying as well.

I'm now willing to take a look at the possibility that we may be scapegoating illegal immigrants when the REAL culprits are unfettered free trade agreements, the WTO, the World Bank, The International Monetary Fund, GATT, etc. These supposed economic equalizers are proving to be a BOON to the wealthy elites and disastrous for the rest of the world.

They have usurped the sovereignties of nations, including ours, encouraged by corrupt leaders and politicians who have much to gain personally. These elites are out to rape the resources of the world's nations for their own benefit and leave citizens with dregs. The everyday businessman, seeing that the power elites aren't enforcing the laws because the wealthy elites tell them not to, decide to join the bandwagon (if you can't beat 'em join 'em) and it just perpetuates this to another level.

Maybe it's time we have a worldwide revolution against THESE criminals.

As crazybird says, this is a worldwide situation. If you read/look at non-American media, it's the same thing. This is where I agree with Ralph Nader. Immigration/illegal immigration is part of worldwide economic injustice. This is what I feel Ron Paul was saying as well.

I was amazed at how exact everything is. They do the jobs the Europeans won't do. Carpentry, agriculture and restaurant businesses....employers love them, the people don't. Lower wages, drain on the services, crime, smuggling, 20 migrants in a single dwelling...they would abide by the "rules" if it was easier to come......etc. etc.

The ONLY thing I didn't read about was a "reqonquestia" (forgive the spelling) from any of those nations migrating there, like we have here.

I just found it so similar with the "path to citizenship" except I didn't see anything about volunteer work in ours. If we went to nationalized health care there would be nothing any different.

One shocking statement came from big business though.....if migrants can survive on minimum wage...then citizens can too. Unfortunatly I don't believe they are "surviving" on that without other illegal connections such as drugs, prostitution and theft.

Rep. Seth Whipper, D-North Charleston, said it is not too late for the Hispanic community to weigh in on the debate and he is anxious to hear their suggestions
"We really need to find out how that community feels about the matter and where they see conflict," Whipper said.

Why should illegal invaders have an opportunity to weigh in on any matter since they are in violation of our immigration laws.

What about the community of Citizens of the United States who are impacted by this issue on a daily basis. We have made our feelings known to you, do you care about how "we" feel in this matter?

I'm sick and tired of hearing about how the illegal invaders "feel" about their propensity to break our laws. Their feelings are not relevant.

You can sum everything up into just one phrase: indentured servitude!

Systems of indentured servitude have existed ever since the first civilizations of man, therefore the globalist elites are no different from the elites of the past. Suffice it to say that morally, they have not evolved any further since then, only the playing fields have changed.

According to the majority of Dutch citizens and those of other countries who oppose the EU Constitution:

A unified Europe is, in itself, a good idea, if ‘unified’ means that the peoples of Europe can coordinate their efforts to improve their own conditions, peacefully cooperating with the rest of the world. But the EU constitution as it is now proposed serves only the interests of the rich and the very rich, while reducing the masses of working class European people to an even more miserable level of servitude, and perpetuating social inequality on a global scale.

Rep. Seth Whipper, D-North Charleston, said it is not too late for the Hispanic community to weigh in on the debate and he is anxious to hear their suggestions

Why do some folk insist on making this a Hispanic issue? This is about illegal immigration, not Hispanics.

She also said that if the legislation becomes law it will dry up jobs for immigrants and hurt the state's economy because of the long hours they work for low pay.

Hmmm.........she makes it sound like slavery is okay when it benefits the economy.