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    Question: are illegal alien and Chinese products killing us?

    I was going to put this long post in the news thread section -- but I feel the news items are just part of what needs to be a big discussion. I believe this post belongs in the general discussion thread -- if not I hope a moderator moves it. Thanks.

    In the 2 news articles I am posting on this thread, I want to encourage all American Citizens to educate themselves and then protect themselves and their loved ones -- this information may save your life! It is directly related to illegal immigration, and offshoring of jobs, production and food. I also, call upon us all to 1) end illegal immigration and deport ALL illegal aliens -- no guest worker permits or paths to citizenship; 2) end trade with China and Mexico and 3rd world nations, end offshoring of jobs and production, we Americans can make our own products and food products, and grow our own produce and meats better than any other nation -- better and safer. I do not want to see one more American baby, child or citizen die to Salmanella or rat poison or melamine in food. Please read on:

    Is there news our government does not want you to know? Maybe but it seems the United States government is hiding this information -- you will be hard pressed to find it. But think about this, in the past 10 years have you noticed an increase in cases of Salmonella in the United States? Sure you have, that and poisonings and deaths from pathogens and poisons in Chinese products have risen dramatically. Why is this happening and why is it not being reported and discussed -- or better yet why is no action being taken?

    International handbook of foodborne pathogens By Marianne D. Miliotis, Jeffrey W. Bier page 137, I Introduction, second paragraph: "In general, over the past three decades...the United States has reported a SHARP rise in the incidence of disease due to Salmonella." What has happend during the past three decades? Hmmmmm lets see this is 2010 isn't it, well starting in 1980 a HUGE influx of illegal aliens began to take over migrant agricultural work in the United States, in 1984 there was the Ronald Reagan memorial free citizenship award to 3 MILLION illegal aliens and a HUGE increase in handing out "guest worker" permits. Today we have about 23 Million or so illegal aliens. What nations have the highest incidents of Salmanella -- well lets see that would be Mexico, Central and South America!! From whence do our illegal aliens come? Why from Mexico and Central and South America. How is Salmanella spread -- mainly vegetables and fruits and meat become contaminated with diseased human fecal matter, those products are eaten by unwarry consumers who then become sick and die. We seem to have lots of fruits and vegetables in our stores these days -- high prices of course -- but how do our farmers get year round production of seasonal produce? They don't, these products come from Mexico and Central and South America...OMG is this a coincidence? Or might it be that illegal aliens and nations that hate the United States like Mexico and Central and South America just happen to be "accidentally" contaminating produce bound for America which just happens to infect and kill Americans???

    What about Chinese food products and toys and other items -- the government tells me they are cheap and good for me. The government of the United States is a plutocracy right now -- that is a big word that means it is controlled by tycoons and multinational corporations. We are all working to change the government back to the people. But right now they will tell you to eat rat poison if it made them richer -- seriously they would. American politicians practice what Hitler taught -- if you tell a BIG lie often enough and long enough people accept it as the truth. Lies like don't worry about globalization its good for you, trust us we wouldn't hurt you (big wolfie smile...) oh sigh those jobs "just aren't coming back" too bad. China is the worst of all combinations of government -- communism mixed with unbridled greed of capitalism -- they want our money and they don't care how they get it. Tycoons who run the American goverment do not care how many Americans they make unemployed or how much they hurt these United States, so long as tycoon profits stay high. China makes many products in the fastest, cheapest way. The Chinese have an old saying, it is "cheap, quick, good." The saying goes on you can have good and cheap but not quick, you can have good and quick but not cheap, and finally you can have cheap and quick but NOT GOOD -- in other words BAD. Radiotive isotopes, poisons, deadly contaminants and even melamine are found to some degree in all imports from China. Melamine is added to food products by China because a lot of foods are priced according to protein content. Melamine tricks basic protein tests which measure nitrogen levels into thinking the product is loaded with protein when it is NOT -- ie. diluted milk or infant formula. Melamine makes products cheaper and profits higher -- but at a terrible cost! When consumed, Melamine combining with cyanuric acid forms melamine cyanurate, it is absorbed into the bloodstream and crystallizes to form yellow crystals that block and damage the renal cells causing the kidneys and bladder to malfunction and fail. By the way kidney disease is also on the rise in the United States -- read about all the babies who died from kidney failure after drinking imported Chinese infant formula?


    ARTICLE 1: SALMANELLA OUTBREAK
    for more information google: illegal aliens and salmonella

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/05/21/sa ... ak/?hpt=T2


    (CNN) -- Federal public health officials are investigating a salmonella outbreak that has infected 22 people in 10 states, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Friday.The infections are linked to the consumption of raw alfalfa sprouts, the CDC said. California-based Caldwell Fresh Foods is recalling all alfalfa sprouts manufactured under three of its brands because they may be contaminated with salmonella, the company said Friday. Caldwell said its alfalfa sprouts have been associated with the outbreak.

    There have been no deaths reported from the outbreak, but four of those infected have been hospitalized, Caldwell Fresh Foods said in a statement Friday. CDC is collaborating the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and with state public health officials to investigate the salmonella outbreak, the CDC said in a statement Friday.
    One of those infected was an infant hospitalized in Oregon, an Oregon Department of Health official told CNN. The baby had been eating alfalfa sprouts, said Paul Cieslak, manager of the state health department's communicable disease section.

    CDC is collaborating with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and state public health officials to investigate the strain, called Salmonella Newport, the CDC said in a statement Friday. The initial investigation traced the implicated raw alfalfa sprouts to a single sprout processor in California, the CDC said, though it did not name Caldwell Fresh Foods directly. The CDC did not respond to requests for comment on Friday. Eleven of those sickened are in California, Caldwell Fresh Foods said, with the most recent known illness beginning on May 2.

    The company, which said it voluntarily issued the recall, distributed the alfalfa sprouts under its Caldwell Fresh Foods, Nature's Choice and California Exotics brands. The alfalfa sprouts were distributed to various restaurants, delicatessens and retailers across the country, Caldwell Fresh Foods said. In California, Caldwell products are sold at Trader Joe's and Wal-Mart stores, among others. Salmonella infections linked to the outbreak have also been identified in Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Illinois, Missouri, New Mexico, Nevada, Oregon and Wisconsin, the CDC said. The first illness linked to the outbreak began on March 1, the agency said. Most people infected with salmonella develop diarrhea, fever, and abdominal cramps 12 to 72 hours after infection, the CDC said. The illness usually lasts four to seven days.

    Although most people recover without treatment, infants, the elderly and those with weakened immune systems can develop severe illness that can cause death unless the person is treated promptly with antibiotics, the CDC said. Illnesses that occurred since May 2 might not yet be reported because it takes an average of two to three weeks from when a person becomes ill until the salmonella infection is reported, the CDC said.


    ARTICLE 2: KILLER CHINSE FOOD PRODUCTS -- PROTECT YOUR LOVED ONES
    for more information google: chinese products that kill

    http://www.bihartimes.com/Maneka/melamine.html


    Bihar Times) While in recent years there has been an unexplained epidemic in kidney failure both in humans and animals, it was only last year that, due to 12,000 dogs and cats dying in America in a week, scientists started looking for causes and found the culprit -melamine.

    China is known for two things ( a) its cheap products( b) the mysterious way in which they are made. The reason is obvious: with little or no controls over any industry in China, producers can use any ingredients they like as long as they keep it cheap enough to export. The Chinese lack of compassion is legendary so if people and animals die , so be it.

    I predict that over the next five years, hundreds of carcinogenic and other deadly products will be found in many Chinese products. But since melamine is today’s major culprit, let us start with the questions, ‘What is Melamine?’ and ‘Why is it used in Chinese food products’?

    Melamine is a chemical derived from coal and made up of carbon, nitrogen, and hydrogen. It is a white crystalline powder and contains 66% nitrogen. Discovered in 1830, it has been used in a variety of products since, from plastic dishes, mugs, utensils, laminate flooring, cleaning products, kitchen cabinets and ready to assemble furniture to textiles, fertilizers and pesticides.
    Why do dairy products manufacturers use melamine?

    A lot of foods are priced according to protein content. In fact the only test Chinese products were/are subjected to by importers is a basic protein test like Kjeldahl or Dumas – which measures protein by measuring nitrogen levels. Melamine contains nitrogen so adding just one gram of melamine per kg of milk is enough to lift the apparent protein content of milk from less than 27g per kg (the cheapest grade of milk in China ) to higher than 31g per kg - the most expensive grade. So you simply dilute the milk, add melamine and boost the price of a kg of milk from 1.2 yuan ($.1 to 1.8 yuan ($ .27). This wondrous way of fooling the world was discovered in 1999 by the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) funded by the Chinese government.

    Melamine kills. Combining with cyanuric acid to form melamine cyanurate, it is absorbed into the bloodstream and crystallizes to form yellow crystals that block and damage the renal cells causing the kidneys and bladder to malfunction and fail. Since baby formula is the primary food of infants they are particularly vulnerable as they consume more melamine per unit of body weight than older children. People with already weak kidneys and bladders are at risk. Chronic exposure to melamine can cause cancer and reproductive damage.

    Melamine has become the largest killer of pet dogs . It went undetected because it destroys over time and the diagnosis is usually just renal failure for both humans and animals. The Chinese got caught because, in March 2007, one pet food company, Menu Foods got greedy and put so much melamine into its product that pets did not suffer kidney failure gradually but immediately upon eating the food.

    After the dog deaths , the American Food and Drug Administration discovered melamine in all pet food manufactured in China and in 100 brands that had used contaminated wheat flour from China. Then they found it in pig and poultry feed. Thousands of animals had to be killed. Then they found it in dairy products, dehydrated milk and anything containing milk. Then anything containing eggs.

    With the spotlight on melamine contamination, baby deaths in China also came to light. Over 50,000 Chinese babies had taken ill with many dying from drinking melamine-tainted milk products like powdered milk and baby formula. Hongkong was the next to report deaths from milk products made in China.

    Melamine was found in biscuits produced in Sri Lanka and Thailand which had to be recalled. The Netherlands found cookies with melamine. In the Philippines, out of 14 Chinese food products , eight tested positive for melamine contamination. These include two brands of milk candy, a brand of chocolate, a brand of milk powder, a coffee creamer used in restaurants, a popular iced drink and two brands of processed meats – one luncheon meat and the other, corned beef. The meats were probably from animals given melamine-mixed feed. Why powder (which is used in confectionary mixes ) and skimmed milk replacer has also tested positive for melamine. Melamine has also been detected in fish food used for feeding shrimps.

    Every day brings to light a new product infested with melamine including powdered coffee and tea, desserts, White Rabbit candy, pretzels, and cookies. Nestle which manufactures in China has found melamine in several of its products. Hong Kong authorities have banned two Cadbury products which have shown high levels of melamine. Melamine has been found in American products containing wheat gluten and rice protein imported from China. Taiwan has seized thousands of kgs of Chinese-produced milk powder and recalled packs of Mr. Brown instant coffee and milk tea . South Korea has had to destroy 23 tonnes of Chinese processed egg products while Canada intercepted a Chinese shipment of corn gluten that tested positive for melamine. Earlier a corn gluten shipment from China to South Africa killed dogs there. Local tests in Singapore have found melamine in milk, ice cream, yoghurt, chocolates, biscuits and sweets and have banned the import of all milk products from China. Countries from Bangladesh to Tanzania have followed suit.

    The fault lies as much with the importing companies and countries as with China’s greed and inhumanity. While America and the EU have now put severe checks on Chinese food imports, until 2007 no tests were conducted for pet foods and animal feed. As a result hundreds of animals died. Emboldened by getting away with killing animals whilst earning huge profits, the Chinese were arrogant enough to try it with human food as well. Even this escaped notice in spite of a sharp rise in kidney failures. It took sudden deaths from melamine overdoses for governments to react. Companies had clearly put personal profit over public safety.

    America and Europe have now cancelled the import of dairy products including biscuits, candy and chocolate. Nutracea, Mission Foods and Tyson Foods have reiterated that their ingredients are not, or will no longer be, sourced from China. Has that made any difference? No. China, whose dairy based food exports have grown by more than 90% to $3500 million in 2007 has simply switched markets and found Asian countries to buy its poison. Guess who’s buying? In 2008 when China desperately needed a buyer for its contaminated stock, India graciously volunteered. In 2006 we imported 665 kg of Chinese milk , in 2007 dairy products from China rose to 7,062 kg and in 2008 to 88,000 kg! While all countries have barred Chinese milk products and introduced melamine testing , India has not. We have NO melamine checks on any of this food.

    Well if the government won’t protect you, do it yourself. Here is a list of products in which melamine has been found:

    Pet food , Ø Fish food Ø Poultry feed Ø Wheat gluten and rice protein Ø Øbiscuits Milk, and over 31 brands of powdered milk including Lipton, Glico and Ritz and Heinz DHA+AA baby cereal Ø ØEgg products Cadbury dark chocolate éclairs and dairy milk hazelnut chocolate Ø Coffee creamers > White Rabbit Creamy Candy Ø ØDove chocolate Dreyers cake Ømix and icecream ØDutch Lady candy First Choice crackers & ØRitz Snacks Kraft Oreo Øwafer sticks M&ØMs Magnum Øice cream Mentos bottle yoghurt Ø ØSnickers funsize Yili Øhi-cal milk Youcan sesame snacks Ø Instant coffee and milk tea (Lipton green milk tea, Unilever Tea) Ø ØCorn gluten Nestle Chocolates Ø 305 Chinese dairy-based products such as Øcoffee creamer and vegetable creamer powders Deserts and bakery products from China such as caramel tarts,cream buns, meat buns Ø ØChinese made cheesecake ØEggs from Hanovo Foods and Green Living Beings Mr Brown coffee products.
    Look at the label. If it says Protein Enhanced, forget it.
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    Stomache

    Stomache and Digestive tract cancers are already rising. Look at these numbers because it will not be long before they probably shoot through the roof due to food contamination by hostile outside forces.
    I think we have already been hit several times by those trying to take our country. It only takes one or two drops of a serious carcenogenic material in your food and a couple years later depending on your age and body, poof...you have stomache cancer. Protect our food sources now please.

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    And soon, we will have no healthcare to help us get better.

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