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    Letters: The grand experiment

    Letters: The grand experiment
    07/31/2009 06:17:58 PM MDT


    The grand experiment
    "America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009," that's what it's called. Affordable, what does that mean? To whom is it affordable? The plan is to add, by some counts, 45 million uninsured, of which 12 million are illegal aliens.

    Rep. Dean Hiller, R-Nev., tried to amend the bill to stop taxpayers having to give free health care to illegals, but that was voted down along straight-party lines.

    The Congressional Budget Office says the cost of this plan is $1.04 trillion. That is more than $9,000 for every household in the U.S. That's the low estimate; who knows where it will go. When has the government ever stuck to the original amount?

    Testimony from CBO Director D. Elmendorf has said "legislation significantly expands the federal responsibility for health-care costs," which means it is going to cost taxpayers more.

    Where is the money coming from? Your pocket, your paycheck, your stocks, your bonds, your IRA, your 401(k). I think you get the picture.

    Even House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., indicated that Democrats should go "back to the drawing board." The Blue Dog Democrats are asking hard questions about this bill. They know.

    What can you do? Tell your public servants (the officials elected to work for you) you are tired of not being heard. Tell them how you don't like it when they have a better health-care plan than you do. Tell them you are tired of them spending your money, that you know how to spend it better than they do.

    Call your servants often, it will get their attention. Let them know if they do not serve you, you will vote them out. That will be heard, I guarantee.

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    Where is the money coming from? Your pocket, your paycheck, your stocks, your bonds, your IRA, your 401(k). I think you get the picture.




    Oh yeah....I get the picture.

    Under this plan, the government is permitted to take every cent you have and then, when you finally kick the bucket.....because you've been deemed unworthy of receiving health care, of course.....they make sure that any estate you leave to your heirs is handed over to them as well.

    I really hope that people are READING this fiasco because it has nothing to do with healthcare reform intended to fix a lacking system.

    It does, however, represent the most overt and blatant confiscation of money and property ever to be attempted against the American people.
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    If they came up with a plan for just the uninsured (no illegals) without bothering the rest of us, that wouldn't be so bad. But the NWO control freaks try at every turn to turn any bill into the death of our democracy. Liberals beleive in nothing, and they lack on morale standing. They will loose their country because they don't know how to defend anything. They are all used to having everything done for them. Can they really survive without the govt? I don't even think they would know how.
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    The also have added on Page 400 and something, the mandate that we allow their shrinks to come into our homes and tell us how to raise our children. What is not mentioned is what the penalties are if we are not raising them to Government standards.

    The Government is already using our children as pawns to control our religion. The most well known is the FLDS case, but there have also been cases where children have been pulled simply because their parents were Jehovahs Witnesses, Wiccans, and Evangelical christians and the case worker disagreed with their religious beliefs. The UN's "Childs Rights" treaty forbids parents from even suggesting their children attend any kind of church. Just how long before our children will be used for leverage to make sure we vote the right way or donate to the right candidate?

    And they say this is about health care This is about Government Control of every aspect of our lives.
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    Article from 2007

    http://www.vdare.com/awall/070219_memo.htm

    Article from 2005

    http://www.jpands.org/vol10no1/cosman.pdf

    The problems with healthcare were/are easily defined. Rather than address the problem our government is attempting to socialize the costs! The nerve of them to use the term 'Uninsured Americans' is an insult to my intelligence!
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    Bill HR 3247!

    Jean, thank you for posting.

    Cayla99 said ''The also have added on Page 400 and something, the mandate that we allow their shrinks to come into our homes and tell us how to raise our children.''

    This sounds like what Glenn Beck mentioned and is Bill HR 3247 brought by Brian Baird. There will be a czar with psychiatrists to get you to change the way you think.

    Russians sent the people off to Syberia or tortured those that did not tow the party line. What a good model!!

    Here is Glenn Beck on video .
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    Quote Originally Posted by cayla99
    The also have added on Page 400 and something, the mandate that we allow their shrinks to come into our homes and tell us how to raise our children. What is not mentioned is what the penalties are if we are not raising them to Government standards.
    Quote Originally Posted by cayla99

    The Government is already using our children as pawns to control our religion. The most well known is the FLDS case, but there have also been cases where children have been pulled simply because their parents were Jehovahs Witnesses, Wiccans, and Evangelical christians and the case worker disagreed with their religious beliefs. The UN's "Childs Rights" treaty forbids parents from even suggesting their children attend any kind of church. Just how long before our children will be used for leverage to make sure we vote the right way or donate to the right candidate?

    And they say this is about health care This is about Government Control of every aspect of our lives.


    What is safe to assume Cayla, is that they will take our children.

    What else is there to be concluded when you have people like John Holdren, who has written and spoken, for literal decades, about a concept whereby children would be placed in government run boarding facilities.......called "hives" or "global community rearing centers".....now directly involved with policy and law making?

    These are not things being twisted or taken out of context by those unhappy with this administration and desiring to undermine it.

    These are all things, which the people seeking to implement them, have spent a lifetime developing and dreaming of the day their ideas would become reality. Anyone who doubts this has to do nothing more than go back and READ the hundreds of papers these people have published, listen to the interviews they have given recently where they openly speak of these things, etc. It's all right there, in black and white and living color.....THEIR ideas, THEIR own words. No one is making this up out of whole cloth or twisting anything.

    And for people like John Holdren, the day that his life's work might become reality has arrived.

    The fact of it is that these people are deranged and ill intended. And obama has surrounded himself with them. He has followed their teachings, they are his inner circle, and he is not only advocating but imposing this insanity on the American people.

    And yes, I absolutely agree. This healthcare bill has nothing to do with benefitting the American citizen anymore than the energy bill has anything to do with global warning.

    This is about nothing more than complete and total control over a population in all regards at the hands of a group of certifiable madmen.
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    Call your servants often, it will get their attention. Let them know if they do not serve you, you will vote them out. That will be heard, I guarantee.
    They need to be reminded constantly!!!

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