California is closer to ending illegal "Anchor Baby&quo

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07-01-2009, 06:04 PM
vortex

The tricky thing I see is the word jurisdiction, which implies: dominion, control, influence; district, range, reach according to my dictionary. An anchor baby is under the dominion, control, influence, district, range and reach of his/her illegal parents, who are not necessarily under the dominion, control, influence, district, range and reach of the United States.
If I am in Albania, I am subject to their jurisdiction temporarily but I am under the permanent jurisdiction of the US. That is why I would have a US passport to reinforce that point.
07-01-2009, 06:17 PM
Bowman

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Originally Posted by NoBueno

I certainly hope it progresses as you have predicted Bowman. I have a few questions though. What's the 9th Circuit going to do and will that have any affect on how the case progresses?

HA! Of course the 9th Circus court will rule against the measure.

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What about the U.S. Court of Appeals?

I don't know which way they would rule.

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And what affect will that have on Petition for Writ of Certiorari? In your opinion, does it matter who actually Petitions for Writ of Certiorari in so far as how this issue will be presented to the Supreme Court? Are you certain the Supreme Court will grant the Writ of Certiorari?

You need to ask Attorney at law. I have no idea if they will grant the Writ, but I think chances are good they will.
07-01-2009, 06:22 PM
cayla99

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Originally Posted by Bowman

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Originally Posted by NoBueno

I certainly hope it progresses as you have predicted Bowman. I have a few questions though. What's the 9th Circuit going to do and will that have any affect on how the case progresses?

HA! Of course the 9th Circus court will rule against the measure.

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What about the U.S. Court of Appeals?

I don't know which way they would rule.

[quote:1p4ktrg1] And what affect will that have on Petition for Writ of Certiorari? In your opinion, does it matter who actually Petitions for Writ of Certiorari in so far as how this issue will be presented to the Supreme Court? Are you certain the Supreme Court will grant the Writ of Certiorari?

You need to ask Attorney at law. I have no idea if they will grant the Writ, but I think chances are good they will.[/quote:1p4ktrg1]

I think whether or not they grant the writ depends on whether or not they like what the 9th circus has to say on the subject
07-01-2009, 06:24 PM
Bowman

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Originally Posted by vortex

The tricky thing I see is the word jurisdiction, which implies: dominion, control, influence; district, range, reach according to my dictionary. An anchor baby is under the dominion, control, influence, district, range and reach of his/her illegal parents, who are not necessarily under the dominion, control, influence, district, range and reach of the United States.
If I am in Albania, I am subject to their jurisdiction temporarily but I am under the permanent jurisdiction of the US. That is why I would have a US passport to reinforce that point.

Yes, you have a US passport and demand to see the US consolute if detained. Just like illegal aliens many times demand their government representation during trials. Also the majority of anchor babies obtain birth certifications and passports from their parents country, thus they along with their parents are under the jurisdiction of a foreign country.

If Mexico or any foreign country opposes this initiative in any way, it seems that would greatly help our case.
07-01-2009, 06:28 PM
Bowman

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Originally Posted by cayla99

I think whether or not they grant the writ depends on whether or not they like what the 9th circus has to say on the subject

In that case they will probably grant the Writ since the 9th Circus comes up with off the wall rulings that are more often than not overturned by the Supreme Court.
07-01-2009, 06:39 PM
NoBueno

In any event, the Supreme Court is a long way off at the moment. The first step is to get this initiative passed. Is a ballot initiative the same as a proposition? if so, and enough signatures are gathered, this will appear on the 2010 ballot? Is that right?
07-01-2009, 07:01 PM
Bowman

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Originally Posted by NoBueno

In any event, the Supreme Court is a long way off at the moment. The first step is to get this initiative passed. Is a ballot initiative the same as a proposition? if so, and enough signatures are gathered, this will appear on the 2010 ballot? Is that right?

Yes to all. 650,000 signatures are needed, I am working on getting my share right now.
07-01-2009, 07:12 PM
cayla99

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Originally Posted by Bowman

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Originally Posted by cayla99

I think whether or not they grant the writ depends on whether or not they like what the 9th circus has to say on the subject

In that case they will probably grant the Writ since the 9th Circus comes up with off the wall rulings that are more often than not overturned by the Supreme Court.

On the other hand, lately they have had some sane rulings......I know...scared the blank out of me also. I wanted to check the temperature in hell
07-01-2009, 07:18 PM
NoBueno

Here is the link to the CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER PROTECTION ACT of 2010.
Sponsored by Taxpayer Revolution. You can download petition and sign.

http://www.taxpayerrevolution.org/in...tpage&Itemid=1
07-01-2009, 07:42 PM
Bowman

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Originally Posted by NoBueno

Here is the link to the CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER PROTECTION ACT of 2010.
Sponsored by Taxpayer Revolution. You can download petition and sign.

http://www.taxpayerrevolution.org/in...tpage&Itemid=1

Only for registered California voters.

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