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    ALA-What about all the victims of illegal immigration? op-ed

    What about all the victims of illegal immigration? (op-ed)
    Published: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 7:05 AM
    By From The Huntsville Times The Huntsville Times

    HUNTSVILLE, Alabama _ As the father of Tad Mattle, killed along with his girlfriend in a horrific accident (murder) in Huntsville two years ago caused by the illegal immigrant Felix Ortega, I experienced first-hand results of unrestricted illegal immigration. Mr. Ortega was not just seeking a better life in the United States. He was a repeat offender with at least four DUIs, was wanted in at least four other states for both misdemeanors and felonies, had five different aliases, and was supposed to have been deported in 2001.

    Because I support Alabama's HB 56 to enforce laws against illegal immigration, I have been accused of not being Christian. I cannot remain silent.

    Where in Jesus Christ's teachings did he advocate flagrant violation of a nation's laws? How is violating immigration laws and flaunting it in front of those who followed the legal process Christ-like? The willingness of HB 56's detractors to overlook unfettered illegal immigration is just the sort of mindset that allows hardened criminals into our country.

    I ask how Christian is it to allow evil men into our country to rob, maim and/or kill innocent, law-abiding citizens just to demonstrate your pious compassion? Where's the compassion for innocent victims?

    Is it true Christianity to allow a felon into this country and kill two innocent children who were lawfully stopped at a traffic light? Is it truly compassionate to have my wife and I awakened at 12:30 a.m. by the police to inform us that our son is dead, just so we can allow illegal immigrants into the United States?

    Where's the compassion for the police officer who tried to stop Ortega after he ran through a stop sign in front of his patrol car? And while I am asking , "Where's the compassion?,"I invite you to ask other victims, such as Officer Daniel Golden's widow and two children, if they are grateful for the compassion that allowed Benito Albarran into this country to murder her husband. There are thousands more victims, but they seem to be mere statistics.

    I also ask where our society has not been compassionate to illegal immigrants? So far, they have received free medical care, food stamps, free education and the government has overlooked their violations of our laws. The convicted criminals get comfortable prisons and three meals a day. That's a much better deal than my son's grave in Maple Hill Cemetery. For two murder convictions, Felix Ortega will serve only 15 years. In Mexico, he would have been shot by the police on the scene.

    Contrary to the detractors' belief, HB 56 is designed protect innocent Alabamians from having to experience what my family has gone through. A society has every right to determine who is allowed to be in that society. Judges and juries do that daily. Illegal immigrants have already demonstrated a willingness to disregard our laws and often ignore many other laws.

    Although untrue, some ministers are worried that HB 56 will make them a criminal by performing their church duties such as administering the Sacrament to illegals or preaching to them. If you knowingly harbor illegal immigrants to prevent them from being detained or deported, you would be criminally liable, just as someone who knowingly harbors a wanted felon. If, however, you act as a good Samaritan and help someone in need by feeding them, clothing them or teaching them the Gospel, you need not fear the law. There are not going to be jack- booted thugs busting down doors.

    As a volunteer EMS provider, I know I will not be prosecuted for helping an injured illegal immigrant. Our code, the law, and my Christian duty is to provide help without regard to race, religion, criminal status or citizenship status.

    As for my Christianity, I have served throughout my adult life, and continue to serve, as a lay leader in my church's congregation in various capacities. My tithes and offerings support local and international charitable needs, including those in Latin American countries. I am a member of two local volunteer rescue squads, sacrificing many hours in training and rescues. I have donated many hours leading a scout troop and training adult scout leaders. Never have I encouraged anyone to break the law in those activities.

    I am in the process of forgiving Mr. Ortega as my Savior commands, but the status of my forgiveness is irrelevant to the fact that our government, and those in opposition to HB 56, have allowed, even encouraged, criminals to freely enter our nation.

    I have nothing against Hispanic people and have close friends who are Hispanic. If anyone wants to make the sacrifices to come here legally, I welcome them with open arms regardless of where they come from. Encouraging unrestricted illegal immigration, and the inevitable influx of criminals, however, is not the correct answer.



    (Dan Mattle is the father of Tad Mattle, who was killed in a car accident by an intoxicated, undocumented immigrant.)

    Related topics: Dan Mattle, HB 56, Illegal Immigrants, Jimmerson, op-ed, Tad Mattle

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    Of course, there are the usual illegal invader huggers posting in the comments section, trying to deflect blame away from this invader's illegal status.

    The fact of the matter is had our immigration laws been enforced,Tad Mattle would still be alive today because Felix Ortega would have never had the opportunity to get behind the wheel of an automobile in this country (drunk or otherwise).

    Ths issue isn't drunk driving per se,(although drunk driving is obviously dangerous regardless of who's doing it) it's Felix Ortega being allowed to remain in this country illegally (with a pattern of dangerous behavior well documented) until he finally ended up killing someone! If he wasn't here then he could not have been behind the wheel and Tad Mattle is still alive.

    See how that works!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    Of course, there are the usual illegal invader huggers posting in the comments section, trying to deflect blame away from this invader's illegal status.

    The fact of the matter is had our immigration laws been enforced,Tad Mattle would still be alive today because Felix Ortega would have never had the opportunity to get behind the wheel of an automobile in this country (drunk or otherwise).

    Ths issue isn't drunk driving per se,(although drunk driving is obviously dangerous regardless of who's doing it) it's Felix Ortega being allowed to remain in this country illegally (with a pattern of dangerous behavior well documented) until he finally ended up killing someone! If he wasn't here then he could not have been behind the wheel and Tad Mattle is still alive.

    See how that works!
    I have read more than 100 stories of illegal aliens (Mexican) drunk and driving. The vast majority seem to be genetically wired for alcoholism and the fact that the don't give a second thought to driving while drunk makes it even more of a cultural thing with them as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatMattersMost
    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    Of course, there are the usual illegal invader huggers posting in the comments section, trying to deflect blame away from this invader's illegal status.

    The fact of the matter is had our immigration laws been enforced,Tad Mattle would still be alive today because Felix Ortega would have never had the opportunity to get behind the wheel of an automobile in this country (drunk or otherwise).

    Ths issue isn't drunk driving per se,(although drunk driving is obviously dangerous regardless of who's doing it) it's Felix Ortega being allowed to remain in this country illegally (with a pattern of dangerous behavior well documented) until he finally ended up killing someone! If he wasn't here then he could not have been behind the wheel and Tad Mattle is still alive.

    See how that works!
    I have read more than 100 stories of illegal aliens (Mexican) drunk and driving. The vast majority seem to be genetically wired for alcoholism and the fact that the don't give a second thought to driving while drunk makes it even more of a cultural thing with them as well.
    Ditto MWM! Alcohol and machismo (combined with ignorance) is a deadly combination, as is demonstrated by this culture over and over again in this country. If not killing Americans while behind the wheel while drunk, they are just as content stabbing or shooting someone while loaded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatMattersMost
    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    Of course, there are the usual illegal invader huggers posting in the comments section, trying to deflect blame away from this invader's illegal status.

    The fact of the matter is had our immigration laws been enforced,Tad Mattle would still be alive today because Felix Ortega would have never had the opportunity to get behind the wheel of an automobile in this country (drunk or otherwise).

    Ths issue isn't drunk driving per se,(although drunk driving is obviously dangerous regardless of who's doing it) it's Felix Ortega being allowed to remain in this country illegally (with a pattern of dangerous behavior well documented) until he finally ended up killing someone! If he wasn't here then he could not have been behind the wheel and Tad Mattle is still alive.

    See how that works!
    I have read more than 100 stories of illegal aliens (Mexican) drunk and driving. The vast majority seem to be genetically wired for alcoholism and the fact that the don't give a second thought to driving while drunk makes it even more of a cultural thing with them as well.
    I have read this as well. There is no excuse for illegals being here period! I am appalled at anyone who stands up for these murdering criminals. Too many people have lost their lives due to illegals being here and it has to stop!

    Sometimes a person has to be affected directly or they don't understand. God forbid one of the pro illegal folks lose their child or someone else because of an illegal. They wouldn't be so protective of the illegals then, now would they?

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    The compassionate conspirators--

    The compassionate conspirators-- try as they might, cannot defeat the simple logic that if the man was not here, he could not have killed that young fellow.

    They can argue until they are blue in the face it does not change fact.

    How about we take a family member from a supporters family and have him/her stand in the road where illegals are driving??

    We could not do that. Life is too precious for us. Yet, that is exactly what the pro illegal supporters are guilty of. Aiding and abetting the commission of a crime./

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    TOO MANY PRO-ILLEGAL COMMENTS ON THE SOURCE ARTICLE!

    http://blog.al.com/times-views/2011/08/ ... ms_of.html

    You can thank the Elitist Politicians for their Pro-ILLEGAL Policy. Drugs furnished by the ILLEGALS, Drug Wars by the ILLEGALS, United States Citizens murdered by the ILLEGALS but not to worry the Elitist Politicians will continue to furnish Cheap ILLEGAL Labor for the Elitist Political Contributors and Special Interest Groups of course they feel safe in their Gated Communities. If you venture out and you are murdered by an ILLEGAL Drunk Driver or you are a Police Officer murdered by an ILLEGAL during the commission of a crime or a traffic stop or a United States Citizen is in the "wrong" place (any Sanctuary City or State) and caught in the cross fire just remember Our Elitist Politicians and their Elitist Political Contributors consider those murdered as a SMALL SACRIFICE for THEIR CHEAP ILLEGAL LABOR/potential votes.

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    Already posted here: http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-248500.html

    Locking and moving to GD.

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