Thread: Forum: Time to Pick Sides on Illegal Immigration

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Forum: Time to pick sides on illegal immigration
06 10 09
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FORUM: TIME TO PICK SIDES ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
By D.A. King | Athens Banner-Herald | Story updated at 7:08 pm on 6/9/2009

Former Mexican president Vicente Fox unabashedly advanced his "new vision for North American prosperity" at a recent Kennesaw State University event along with Robert Pastor, author of the 2001 book "Toward a North American Community."

Readers who have not yet heard they should adopt a "North American identity" may be surprised to learn of Fox's proposals that we officially eliminate American borders and wave the white flag of surrender over the nation passed on to us.

Also, the United States should repeat the 1986 legalization program for the millions of aliens currently here illegally who didn't wait for the officially borderless continent, insists the man who was president as millions of his countrymen fled the corruption and grinding poverty of Mexico for "El Norte." More than 10 percent of Mexican-born people now live in the United States.

A little background:

As he has many times, in a 2000 interview on ABC's "This Week," then Mexican president-elect Vicente Fox hopefully predicted that by 2010, people would move freely across the border between Mexico and the United States.

His cure for illegal immigration from Mexico? Eliminate American immigration laws. End that old-fashioned American sovereignty and eventually "integrate" the nations of "North America." Defined, defended borders are selfish and Americans live far too well.

"Is the dream of prosperity just for Americans or can it be shared with the rest of us?" Fox asks while he relentlessly pushes for the expansion of the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement to include people.

At the sparsely attended KSU event last month, Fox promised that without borders "the dreams of our founding fathers will be fulfilled with freedom and better distribution of the wealth."

This longtime American is not the first to note Lenin and Marx were not our founding fathers.

In his autobiographical 2007 book "Revolution of Hope," Fox boasts, "I proposed a 'NAFTA Plus' plan to President Bush and Canada's Prime Minister Jean Chretien to move us toward a single continental economic union, modeled on the European example."

For Americans, it would be alarming enough if Fox were a singular voice in the privileged and oh-so enlightened "post-American" ruling class.

He isn't.

After Fox and George W. Bush were sworn in, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ran an editorial accurately noting that "though neither Fox nor President Bush expects to dissolve the 2,000-mile border overnight, the Mexican leader clearly prefers sooner rather than later."

The Atlanta newspaper went on to accurately announce that "Mexican President Vicente Fox envisions a North American economic alliance that will make the border between the United States and Mexico as unrestricted as the one between Tennessee and Georgia."

Other editorial pages - including The Wall Street Journal's - joined in endorsing the concept. The AJC recommended that "the ultimate goal of any White House policy ought to be a North American economic and political alliance similar in scope and ambition to the European Union."

Fox is president no more, and Bush failed in his repeated attempts to legalize the illegal aliens who escaped U.S. Border Patrol agents.

The open-borders, amnesty-again agenda lives on, however. Under enormous pressure from Mexico and a coalition of big business and the corporate-funded ethnic lobby - and against huge resistance from the American people - President Obama has promised to push his own legalization legislation.

Allowing millions of illegal aliens into our country with an amnesty every 20 years or so is merely official open borders in slow motion. The rule of law upon which our nation was founded? Disposable, dated and inconvenient.

On the issues of "migration," open borders and legalization, we all should be asking how large a population we want in what is now the United States, and remember that under the current interpretation of our Constitution, most people born on our soil are awarded the title, rights and benefits of "American citizen."

Amnesty-again and a borderless North America would make the term - and the concept of sovereignty and republic - meaningless.

We all should pick a side.

• D.A. King of Marietta is president of the Georgia-based Dustin Inman Society, which is opposed to legalization for illegal aliens and open borders. The society's Web site is www.TheDustinInmanSociety.org.

Originally published in the Athens Banner-Herald on Wednesday, June 10, 2009
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first off Vicente Fox needs to drag his corrupt self back to his Broke country and fix it... it is not my and any Americans responcibility

2. Why hasnt Bush been charged with High Treason for trying to give away every Americans Sovereignty behind closed doors

why was it always behind closed doors... ask Bush, he knows the consequences

3. Where is Robert Pastor hiding ... he was the pivot man in this circle jerk and also liable to the American people for his actions. They hid him pretty damn quick when this info hit the air ways

4. Members of the Trilateral Commission has been spewing sedition for years... why have they not been charged

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

first off Vicente Fox needs to drag his corrupt self back to his Broke country and fix it... it is not my and any Americans responcibility

2. Why hasnt Bush been charged with High Treason for trying to give away every Americans Sovereignty behind closed doors

why was it always behind closed doors... ask Bush, he knows the consequences

3. Where is Robert Pastor hiding ... he was the pivot man in this circle jerk and also liable to the American people for hhis actions. They hid him pretty damn quick when this info hit the air ways

4. Members of the Trilateral Commission has been spewing sedition for years... why have they not been charged

Because corruption has become the norm and the fox is in the chicken house.

Pastor and his friends where elected by illegals as far as I'm concerned. People need to understand that votes are being cast by people who are not even legal. I live in a Hispanic neighborhood. When I go to vote there about three people, maybe six, that show up and look like they were actually born here, let alone being citizens. I have to pull out tons of documentation to prove I'm a legal citizen. Believe me folks, I'm about a quarter Native American but I look like your average white person. I have to come with birth certificate, drivers license, voter registration and a ton of bills with my name and address.

The rest of the 99.5% of people at the polling location are speaking Spanish and I don't see them pulling out these papers. There is fraud galore at these places. This is not right.

these 3 AMIGO's (There are more but this is a start)

George W Bush AKA Jorge W Boosh
Vicente Fox
Robert Pastor

need to be ARRESTED for the Crimes they committed Against America and Mexico

Put on Trial in their Prospective Country in a village square for all to hear the crimes they have committed behind closed doors

and let the people hear the Verdict for High Crimes / Treason during a time of War

Most Should Be Able To Understand This! . . . forwarded by family/friends.

Our Government (all 534 of them) will allow this to happen and think we don’t understand. They look out for everyone except the people that pay the bills for the fat rats in Washington.
This may be the best explanation of our immigration crisis that I have seen.


Let's say I break into your house. . ..
A lady wrote the best letter in the Editorials in ages!!! It explains things better than all the baloney you hear on TV.
Her point:
Recently, large demonstrations have taken place across the country, protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration

Certain people are angry that the U.S. might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely.

Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests.Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave
But I say, "I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).
According to the protesters: You are Required to let me stay in your house. You are Required to add me to your family's insurance plan.
 You are Required to Educate my kids. You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family (my husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part).
If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself.

I'm a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house. And oh yeah, I get a free education, where you have to pay your own way through college.(TEEHEE) And what a deal it is for me!!!

I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of cold,
uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and bigoted behavior.
Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you learn MY LANGUAGE!!! So you can communicate with me. And don't forget to make sure your forms are in MY language - I need to understand them...
Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Only in America ! If you agree, pass it on ( in English ). Share it if you see the value of it.
If not blow it off......... Along with your future Social Security and a lot of other things.....

Welcome, debrashaver!

debrashaver: WELCOME, welcome to ALIPAC

Originally Posted by laughinglynx

Pastor and his friends where elected by illegals as far as I'm concerned. People need to understand that votes are being cast by people who are not even legal. I live in a Hispanic neighborhood. When I go to vote there about three people, maybe six, that show up and look like they were actually born here, let alone being citizens. I have to pull out tons of documentation to prove I'm a legal citizen. Believe me folks, I'm about a quarter Native American but I look like your average white person. I have to come with birth certificate, drivers license, voter registration and a ton of bills with my name and address.

The rest of the 99.5% of people at the polling location are speaking Spanish and I don't see them pulling out these papers. There is fraud galore at these places. This is not right.

I've been suggesting that as many ALIPACers as possible need to try to volunteer as workers at the polling places for 2010 elections. This is a good example of questionnable practices. If someone concerned about something like this was working there, he/she could ask questions about it. We need to find out as much as is possible about what is going on. I plan to do so.

Debrashaver - Welcome to ALIPAC!

An analogy of illegal immigration similar to the one you posted has been mentioned before several times, but the letter you posted makes the point well. Glad that letter to the editor was published.

It truly is the same thing as the illegal invasion, and I hope helps some people see how preposterous it is to allow the continuation of the invasion.