William writes:
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We have done pretty good with our moves so far all things considered
Boy if anyone took my comments as shot against the dedication of the volunteers of this movement I apologize because I have nothing but respect for those trying to defend their country and preserve a legacy for their children and grandchildren.
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Secondly, we are doing damn good considering nobody has been paid and we have been fighting battles left and right.
You are doing more than darn good…far more…
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We must chose our battles. We must use high strategy. We must be very careful in what we do and when.
Hence my various posts. Everyone needs to be aware of the negotiating trap you may be walking into. Personally I see value in disassociated fringe groups stirring the pot, because when you come to formal agreements it is always more or less in the middle of the extremes of positions. If your position is reasonable from the start your end position will be some distance removed form what you consider acceptable.
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We are NOT negotiating our surrender. We are taking our country back.
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People that speak softly and caclulate their moves are the most formidable opponents you will ever see in action and many times you will never see them at all.
You are very correct.
Scarecrow writes:
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With all due respect, Patriotman, you are jumping to conclusions.
Correct I am. More to the point I am contingency planning and trying to plot what can be done to mitigate the possibility of every having to enact a contingency plan...i.e. if you can make the OBL have to defend other fires you can sacrifice a few of them at the table of negotiation...in negotiation everyone has to give...and once again "we" are negotiating...where is the impetus to deport every illegal alien (which would be lawful thing to do)? Answer - there is none, ergo we are already negotiating and we have already conceded that we are not truly willing to stand for "the rule of law".
Scarecrow writes:
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This guest worker garbage doesn't fly. Even partial amnesty doesn't fly. We will continue to push and push for guarded borders, zero tolerance for illegals and all the rest. I think it's too soon to utilize the nuclear option. We want to win not blow ourselves up.
Oh no - see "nuclear option" has now joining the American lexicon - LOL!!!
To your point, you are correct to "too soon to utilize it", but it is a tool in the toolkit and the contingency plans should be evaluated with mobilizes at the ready for various scenarios.
All the best,
Patriotman