Thread: Ron Paul sponsored bill from 2003

To prevent Social Security benefits given to illegal immigrants who worked in the U.S.

ITS STILL IN COMMITTEE since 2003!

I was doing some research tonight and came across this - why hasnt this gotten out of committee. I was very surprised to learn we provide social security benefits to citizens of 17 other countries.

Take a look. Some people here have said he doesnt support the U.S. worker - I certainly dont believe that at all.

H.R. 489 108th Congress

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congr ... 013003.htm
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HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 30, 2003

Social Security for American Citizens Only!

Mr. Speaker, today I introduce the Social Security for American Citizens Only Act. This act forbids the federal government from providing Social Security benefits to non-citizens. It also ends the practice of totalization. Totalization is where the Social Security Administration takes into account the number of year’s an individual worked abroad, and thus was not paying payroll taxes, in determining that individual's eligibility for social security benefits!

Hard as it may be to believe, the Untied States Government already provides Social Security benefits to citizens of 17 other countries. Under current law, citizens of those countries covered by these agreements may have an easier time getting Social Security benefits than public school teachers or policemen!

Obviously, this program provides a threat to the already fragile Social Security system, and the threat is looming larger. Just before Christmas, the press reported on a pending deal between the United States and the government of Mexico, which would make hundreds of thousands of Mexican citizens eligible for U.S. Social Security benefits. Totalization is the centerpiece of this proposal, so even if a Mexican citizen did not work in the United States long enough to qualify for Social Security, the number of years worked in Mexico would be added to bring up the total and thus make the Mexican worker eligible for cash transfers from the United States.

Mr. Speaker, press reports also indicate that thousands of foreigners who would qualify for U.S. Social Security benefits actually came to the United States and worked here illegally. That’s right: The federal government may actually allow someone who came to the United States illegally, worked less than the required number of years to qualify for Social Security, and then returned to Mexico for the rest of his working years, to collect full U.S. Social Security benefits while living in Mexico. That is an insult to the millions of Americans who pay their entire working lives into the system and now face the possibility that there may be nothing left when it is their turn to retire.

The proposed agreement is nothing more than a financial reward to those who have willingly and knowingly violated our own immigration laws. Talk about an incentive for illegal immigration! How many more would break the law to come to this country if promised U.S. government paychecks for life? Is creating a global welfare state on the back of the American taxpayer a good idea? The program also establishes a very disturbing precedent of U.S. foreign aid to individual citizens rather than to states.

Estimates of what this deal with the Mexican government would cost top one billion dollars per year. Supporters of the Social Security to Mexico deal may attempt to downplay the effect the agreement would have on the system, but actions speak louder than words: According to several press reports, the State Department and the Social Security Administration are already negotiating to build a new building in Mexico City to handle the expected rush of applicants for this new program!

As the system braces for a steep increase in those who will be drawing from the Social Security trust fund, it makes no sense to expand it into a global welfare system. Social Security was designed to provide support for retired American citizens who worked in the United States. We should be shoring up the system for those Americans who have paid in for decades, not expanding it to cover foreigners who have not.

It is long past time for Congress to stand up to the internationalist bureaucrats and start looking out for the American worker. I therefore call upon my colleagues to stop the use of the Social Security trust fund as yet another vehicle for foreign aid by cosponsoring the Social Security for American Citizens Only Act.

Pretty amazing isn't it, I knew about the `17 countries but did not know about Pauls bill....I honesty believe he is the man who will work to make the most changes to restore America.

You would be surprised at how many bills die in committee, thats why I don't worry about a bill two much until it gets out...but you have to watch for it!!

Thanks for posting, this kind of info on a canidate tells us alot about a person. I really believe Ron Paul has really started a movement much needed in this country, he is impowering people to speak out and that is good. As Tancredo did, he was a power house for our cause.


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Ron Paul wants to stop SS to ALL period - legal or illegals

I totally agree with you, SOSADFORUS.

I just can't believe that there are people in our movement who would go for Huckabee, Thompson, or Romney, after all that Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, and Tom Tancredo have tried to do for us. Everyone has a right to vote for whomever they want...it just doesn't make any sense to me why some would want to endorse people who have suddenly converted over to our side, when we have 3 (now 2) people who have been with us all along, and, despite what the biased mainstream media says, Ron Paul actually has a chance to win, because the polls don't accurately reflect the fact that his supporters are often independents, democrats, young people who have never voted, and older people who haven't voted for a long time.

Ostrich

Originally Posted by Once_A_Democrat

Ron Paul wants to stop SS to ALL period - legal or illegals

He wants to leave it for people who really need it but weed people off who don't, he wants companys to go back to giving benifits so people have retirements. he is NOT talking about just stopping SS.

It can be done, people are getting to dependant on the government for everything, we are the government and we pay for it nothing is free. it is time for people to become independant, invest in there own retirements, there are many ways. Our government has gotton too big and not one program works efficiently, there is so much waste it is pathetic.


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Originally Posted by TheOstrich

I totally agree with you, SOSADFORUS.

I just can't believe that there are people in our movement who would go for Huckabee, Thompson, or Romney, after all that Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, and Tom Tancredo have tried to do for us. Everyone has a right to vote for whomever they want...it just doesn't make any sense to me why some would want to endorse people who have suddenly converted over to our side, when we have 3 (now 2) people who have been with us all along, and, despite what the biased mainstream media says, Ron Paul actually has a chance to win, because the polls don't accurately reflect the fact that his supporters are often independents, democrats, young people who have never voted, and older people who haven't voted for a long time.

Ostrich

I agree "TheOstrich" I think most of Alipacers support Hunter or Paul and they are both good canidates if one of them don't make it then we have a chance at an indepentant, and Romney is not as bad as the rest, but I won't vote for him unless it comes down to Him and any Demacrate who will give Amnesty.

I just think we need BIG changes in this country and if we are afraid to make them nothing will ever change, at this time I think Paul offers the most changes that make alot of sense to me in so many different area's.

Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter.. I will not give up on principles... God Bless you Tom Tancredo

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter.. I will not give up on principles... God Bless you Tom Tancredo

Ditto "AirborneSapper"

Originally Posted by SOSADFORUS

Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7

Ron Paul or Duncan Hunter.. I will not give up on principles... God Bless you Tom Tancredo

Ditto "AirborneSapper"

Double Ditto!