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    Is this real?

    "Was this posted already?"

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bi ... yacert.asp

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    I've seen it before elsewhere. One would have to do some thorough examination to really know.

    But I'd have to say its fake off of some basic logic.

    1. Paper seems fairly new and crisp looking for a document thats 50+ years old from a warm country. Should have some browning on it by now from ink and such if an original.

    2. The folding pattern is that of how someone would fold something for their pocket, not for any kind of record keeping. Now who'd be carrying a copy of Obama's birth certificate in their pocket for some time to wear it in.

    3. The seal is missing, no seal or zerox of it but an indentation of where it should be.

    4. Looks like printed from a computer and not an older style typewriter. The type is wrong along.


    These days I'm starting to think the Obama supporters and his own affiliates are behind many of the place of birth rumors. They know well that if they can keep the rumors high with that controlling that aspect very unlikely anything will be brought up. They know noone will order the long form be revealed and even if it is and unfound always excuses of destruction of flooding and so on. Such could alone be enough to side with Obama as we can't disprove a claim of destroyed document so easily.

    The real issue which should be an open and shut case is what is required for one to be considered a natural born citizen. Having 2 US Parents and being born on US soil should be an easy one. His father is clearly not an American Citizen and by US Law at the time his mother was not old enough to convey US Citizenship anyways.

    However the question is if we qualify that by the SC as a Natural Citizen it puts a damper on the democrat party and even some republicans would oppose. Consider this.... a Mother gives birth but father never signs the birth certificate, if ruled both parents had to be US Citizens means that child would be ineligible. Now consider all the single mothers out there, but if you pass laws saying those would be that simply means while father may be there and an illegal or even illegal terrorist his name would be purposefully left off. Groom the next terrorist to be US President one day and all. This would also mean all the current illegal citizen children in the US today would be ineligible to ever be president or vice president.... even if one parent is a citizen. Also means legal immigrants would be hurt also if any child was born before they gained naturalized citizenship.

    Hense why I think it may actually be some politicians and obama friends knowing the issue won't just vanished spinning it into a further conspiracy rather then facts that should be enough on their own w/o even the debate on place of birth we probably won't ever be able to prove otherwise.

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