Thread: Where are the environmentalist, etc.?

I have read another thread on this subject - but it bears repeating.

Where are the organizations that pretend to care for the environment?

Those Arizonians really care about their cacti and other desert plants. There was talk when we were there about putting microchips in some cacti so they would know if someone attempted to cut or harm them.

Why then do they allow the desecration of desert lands by the illegals? They are destroying parts of an ecosystem along the border.

It seems the enviromentalists will fight a fence for the environment - but not the illegals - does that make sense.

Abortion - please no pro or con intended - but we do know that the majority of the illegals are either Catholic or Baptists. Have the people who support abortion thought about the future impact of that question when all these people are given even more political clout and the vote?

My point is not a against or for either of the issues - this isn't the place to debate them -

But why have these heretofore busy activists been silent on these subjects?

It just puzzles me ------

They're silent because they all have become political organizations, not environmental ones.

For example, the Sierra Club was bought off with a $100,000,000 bribe.

"RICHMOND, Va. - A Sierra Club member staged a small protest Monday calling for the resignation of the environmental group's executive director, accusing him of accepting money from a donor in exchange for halting the group's discussion of immigration policy.

James McDonald, a 60-year-old Springfield attorney, said Carl Pope accepted more than $100 million from California donor David Gelbaum in 2001 only after promising Gelbaum the club would stay out of the immigration debate. Pope and leaders of the venerable conservation group called McDonald's allegations ridiculous.

A faction within the San Francisco-based Sierra Club has long urged a stronger stance against immigration, arguing that the growing U.S. population is putting an enormous strain on natural resources. But the Sierra Club's members have twice voted to remain neutral in the immigration debate.

McDonald and a friend, who identified himself only as a "retired immigration officer," staged the protest outside the Science Museum of Virginia, where Pope delivered a speech to around 200 club members on an unrelated topic.

Like most of the club's members calling for immigration control, McDonald insists he has nothing against immigrants, adding that his wife is from the Philippines. But eliminating all discussion of the topic is unfair to both the group's members and the environment, he said.

"You have to talk about the subject - you can't just say, 'We're not going to discuss it,'" he said, holding a sign that read, in part: "Carl Pope sold out the Sierra Club and America for $100 million."

Glen Besa, director of the group's Appalachian region, called McDonald's allegations "absurd."

"Our members overwhelmingly rejected a change to our policy, so any allegations of wrongdoing here with regard to that policy are just totally unjustified," Besa said.

Gelbaum, the donor, was quoted last year by The Los Angeles Times as saying: "I did tell Carl Pope in 1994 or 1995 that if they ever came out anti-immigration, they would never get a dollar from me."

Pope acknowledged that Gelbaum did make clear his position on the issue, but said it had nothing to do with the club's decision to stay out of the debate.

"I personally, and subsequently the membership of the Sierra Club, voted that we would remain neutral on immigration, years before Mr. Gelbaum made those large gifts," Pope said. "It is true that Mr. Gelbaum said that if we had taken the opposite position, he would not have given us the gifts, but we had already taken that position."

Most of those attending Pope's speech seemed puzzled by the protest, and few had strong opinions either way on the immigration debate. But a handful applauded McDonald's efforts.

"That's right," Greg Moser, 58, of Richmond, said, gesturing toward McDonald's sign. "They don't want to deal with difficult issues."

Founded by Scottish immigrant John Muir in 1892, the Sierra Club is the country's oldest and largest environmental group and has traditionally advocated for clean air and water and protection of wildlands and wildlife. "

I imagine that the other "environmental" organizations sold out for less.

Of course, the answer is money.

That should show us, once again, that money talks. We still have our purchasing power, and we need to make good use of it. We need to spend every penny wisely.

What with lower paying jobs, no jobs, higher taxes and higher fuel and food prices, our resources are dwindling. Don't squander them.

Just wonder if the higher fuel costs and the havoc it is causing to the working American's budget is not another little way to deminish our power and our standard of living? Am I getting conspiratorial?

Don't squander your money - not a penny. Spend it in the way that will work best for your children, yourselves and your country. That means not with companies that employ illegals.