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    Illegal immigrant is offensive, inaccurate It's the act, not the person, that is ille

    Illegal immigrant is offensive, inaccurate
    It's the act, not the person, that is illegal


    Extraterrestrials or Mexican immigrants?

    By Domenico Maceri
    Mexico News Daily | Thursday, May 5, 2016

    “Could the president grant deferred removal to every unlawfully present alien in the United States right now?”

    That’s how Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts referred to individuals lacking the proper documents to be in the country during a recent hearing on DAPA (Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents).

    “Alien” is the legal term to describe these individuals, but Justice Sonia Sotomayor also referred to them as “undocumented immigrants.” She objected to the phrase “illegal immigrants,” which she considers too harsh. Justice Sotomayor even explained that “illegal immigrants” associates them with “drug addicts, thieves, and murderers.”

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The English language is extremely rich but at times it’s also not capable of providing us with “le mot juste,” as Gustave Flaubert would say.

    The legal term “alien” may be accurate in the justice system, but certainly ineffective in everyday usage. Illegal alien is even much worse since it conjures the images of extraterrestrials, contrasting them with other aliens who do have the right to be on earth and in the U.S.

    When I first came to the U.S. in the late 1960s, I carried a green card officially labeled “alien registration card.” Not knowing English, “alien” meant nothing to me. Now I find the term inaccurate and also deeply offensive.

    Also offensive are other terms used to label individuals who are in the U.S. without legal papers. The phrase “illegal immigrants” is favored by conservatives since it matches their political agenda. These people are criminals whose illegal act goes far beyond the lack of appropriate documents to be in the U.S.

    That’s how Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts referred to individuals lacking the proper documents to be in the country during a recent hearing on DAPA (Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents).

    “Alien” is the legal term to describe these individuals, but Justice Sonia Sotomayor also referred to them as “undocumented immigrants.” She objected to the phrase “illegal immigrants,” which she considers too harsh. Justice Sotomayor even explained that “illegal immigrants” associates them with “drug addicts, thieves, and murderers.”

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The English language is extremely rich but at times it’s also not capable of providing us with “le mot juste,” as Gustave Flaubert would say.

    The legal term “alien” may be accurate in the justice system, but certainly ineffective in everyday usage. Illegal alien is even much worse since it conjures the images of extraterrestrials, contrasting them with other aliens who do have the right to be on earth and in the U.S.

    When I first came to the U.S. in the late 1960s, I carried a green card officially labeled “alien registration card.” Not knowing English, “alien” meant nothing to me. Now I find the term inaccurate and also deeply offensive.

    Also offensive are other terms used to label individuals who are in the U.S. without legal papers. The phrase “illegal immigrants” is favored by conservatives since it matches their political agenda. These people are criminals whose illegal act goes far beyond the lack of appropriate documents to be in the U.S.

    http://mexiconewsdaily.com/opinion/i....PdwL2i8P.dpuf

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    I agree. It's totally offensive. She should be so outraged that her primary agenda should be to leave and go to some other country that is more sensitive to law breakers.

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    I think we'll just stick with illegal alien. It's not our fault that immigrants and other non-Americans find it offensive with conjures of extraterrestrials because they don't understand our language even when they speak it because they don't understand our culture. The term illegal aliens is used because that is the correct legal term for who they are, where they are and what they're doing until they are out of our country.
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    a·li·en
    ˈālēən/
    adjective
    adjective: alien

    • 1.
      belonging to a foreign country or nation.


      • unfamiliar and disturbing or distasteful.
        "bossing anyone around was alien to him"
        synonyms: unfamiliar, unknown, strange, peculiar; Moreexotic, foreign
        "an alien landscape"



        incompatible with, unusual for, opposed to, conflicting with, contrary to, in conflict with, at variance with, out of step with;
        rareoppugnant to
        "a vicious role alien to his nature"



        antonyms: familiar



      • relating to or denoting beings supposedly from other worlds; extraterrestrial.
        "an alien spacecraft"
        synonyms: extraterrestrial, unearthly, otherworldly; MoreMartian, Jovian, Venutian
        "alien beings"



        antonyms: earthly



      • (of a plant or animal species) introduced from another country and later naturalized.







    noun
    noun: alien; plural noun: aliens

    • 1.
      a foreigner, especially one who is not a naturalized citizen of the country where they are living.
      "an illegal alien"
      synonyms: foreigner, nonnative, immigrant, emigrant, émigré "an illegal alien"





      illegal alien



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      noun 1. a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country's authorization.

      2. a foreigner who enters the U.S. without an entry or immigrant visa, especially a person who crosses the border by avoiding inspection or who overstays the period of time allowed as a visitor, tourist, or businessperson. Compare resident alien.



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    Exactly.
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    Contrary to the authors opinion, both the act and the persons status in the country are illegal. While the term may be offensive to the recipient, it is fairly accurate and does not denote criminality in the sense the author is suggesting with "drug addicts, thieves, and murderers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe s View Post
    Contrary to the authors opinion, both the act and the persons status in the country are illegal. While the term may be offensive to the recipient, it is fairly accurate and does not denote criminality in the sense the author is suggesting with "drug addicts, thieves, and murderers."
    They are thieves, though, stealing jobs, wages, housing, benefits, educations, and so much more from the American People. And many are drug runners, that's how they afford to get in here. They are funded by the drug cartels behind illegal immigration. And yes, many go further and kill and commit murder and other crimes.

    People who sneak into a country usually with the aid of a drug cartel paying the mules to get them in are not law-abiding people. They are multiple law-breakers from the git-go with the clear intent to commit many more crimes in this country once they're in.
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    CRIMINAL Trespass

    An unlawful intrusion that interferes with one's person or property.

    Tort Law originated in England with the action of trespass. Initially trespass was any wrongful conduct directly causing injury or loss; in modern law trespass is an unauthorized entry upon land. A trespass gives the aggrieved party the right to bring a civil lawsuit and collect damages as compensation for the interference and for any harm suffered. Trespass is an intentional tort and, in some circumstances, can be punished as a crime.

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    Charge them with "Criminal Trespass" and the mandatory settlement of damages collected will be automatic deportation!

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    Exactly, Beezer!! Trespassers they are. That means they're intruders and invaders as well. It also means they are criminals from the git-go and every day they're here.
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