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    Will Dems "Go For It' on Immigration Reform?

    Will Dems 'go for it' on immigration reform?

    By: Byron York
    Chief Political Correspondent
    April 23, 2010

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    Across Capitol Hill, Republicans are asking just one question about Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid: Are they really going to do it?

    Will the president, the speaker, and the majority leader try to pass "comprehensive" immigration reform in a midterm election year that already threatens to be a disaster for Democrats?

    The question comes after reports top Democrats believe they have a "moral imperative" to pursue an immigration deal and are setting aside energy and environmental legislation (which had major problems of its own) to do it.

    Whatever they choose, Obama, Pelosi and Reid seem to be driven by a desire to avoid, not confront, the voters' top priority, which is the economy and jobs. By huge margins, Americans want their leaders to concentrate on getting people back to work. While it's not quite true to say that nothing else matters, the fact is, nothing else matters nearly as much.

    Just to cite one poll, although there are many, many more: In mid-April, when the New York Times asked people to name the most important problem facing the country, the economy came in first, with 50 percent. Health care came in second, with 8 percent, and after that came the deficit, with 5 percent. Immigration was named by 1 percent of the poll's respondents.

    "The problem Obama has is that any time he is not talking about jobs, he's on the wrong topic," says Republican pollster David Winston. "And trying to bring up particularly divisive issues, like immigration, at this point makes the situation worse."

    Besides, wasn't Obama supposed to have finished his much-touted "pivot" to the economy about now? "I don't get it," continues Winston, reflecting the views of many Republicans. "I don't understand what he is doing. He's not addressing the number-one issue that Americans want him to address."

    The White House would say the president's push for new financial regulation -- sorry, "Wall Street reform" -- does just that. Some Democrats even believe they can make it the defining issue of the campaign. And yes, when new financial regulations are passed, Obama can say he has put in place measures to help prevent future collapses, even though Republicans make a pretty persuasive case that it won't work.

    But what about people who don't have jobs now? And what if Obama does turn to immigration reform? Here's a prediction: It will be unpopular, it will divide his party, and it will remind everyone that his priorities are not the public's.

    A comprehensive immigration bill went down in flames just three years ago. The conventional wisdom is that it split the Republican Party, but the truth is, it split both parties. In the Senate vote that killed the McCain-Kennedy bill, 34 Democrats and 12 Republicans voted to move the measure forward, while 37 Republicans and 16 Democrats voted to block it. Which party was divided? Both of them.

    On the GOP side, there's no reason to think there will be any more support now. "You had a Republican president and you couldn't get Republicans on board and there was five percent unemployment," says one GOP Senate aide. "Now you've got a Democratic president, a more liberal bill, and unemployment is near ten percent."

    As for the Democrats, the aide asks: "Having voted for a health care bill that's toxic, having voted for the biggest deficits ever, will they then turn around and vote for an amnesty bill? I just don't think they will do it."

    So why are Obama, Pelosi and Reid going forward? There are five possible explanations.

    1) They've lost their minds.

    2) They are very smart and know something we don't.

    3) They're out of touch with the public's concerns.

    4) They want to be able to tell the most ardent supporters of reform that they tried.

    5) They're fully aware that the public doesn't want "comprehensive" reform but are racing to do as much as they can before the elections take away their power to defy the public's wishes.

    The first possibility is highly unlikely. The second is less so, but still pretty unlikely. The third is plausible, but not probable. The fourth is arguable. And the fifth? It makes a lot of sense, especially in light of the Obamacare experience.

    Not long ago, in another context, the president challenged Republicans to "Go for it." Don't be surprised if the GOP tells him the same thing this time.

    Byron York, the Examiner's chief political correspondent, can be contacted at byork@washingtonexaminer.com. His column appears on Tuesday and Friday, and his stories and blog posts appears on ExaminerPolitics.com.

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    I hope Bryon York and other conservative commentators are not being too blase about this. Sen. Robert Mendendez (D-NJ) has already given out the Democrats' strategy of waiting until after mid-term elections in November and then using the large numbers of "lame duck" officials of both houses of Congress and both parties to vote amnesty legislation through. Obama is actively "working the 'phones" from Air Force One to line up some Republican support for amnesty legisltation, and they will use their new "short-cut" Reconciliation Process as they did to pass Healthcare. Don't forget that the Senate literally had to be "browbeaten" by letters, faxes, and telephone calls to defeat amnesty in 2006! Several Republican senators who wanted to vote for amnesty then, such as Voinovitch (OH) and Brownback (KS). will be retiring at the end of 2010; their electorates will no longer be able to influence their vote in an end-of-year CIR vote. And, while I may be accused of "Catholic bashing", a number of senators of both parties who either support(ed) or wished to support "comprehensive immigration reform" are, like Voinovitch and Brownback, members of the Roman Catholic Church, one of the strongest proponents of amnesty. The US Conference of Catholic Bishops supports the United Nations in their dangerous campaign to establish accepted "Universal Rights of Migrants" (sic).
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    Illegals, Deport Them

    I agree # 5. They know they will not win in November. But still most Democrats in Congress will not support the bill. Either way, Barack Obama will not win becasue the American people do not support amnesty for illegal aliens. And you know and I know that without the support of the American people nothing goes forward.

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    It will be political suicide to ram this through before the mid-terms. This will push even those that like HC reform over the edge. I think the lame duck attempt most likely.
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    Re: Illegals, Deport Them

    Quote Originally Posted by immigration2009
    I agree # 5. They know they will not win in November. But still most Democrats in Congress will not support the bill. Either way, Barack Obama will not win becasue the American people do not support amnesty for illegal aliens. And you know and I know that without the support of the American people nothing goes forward.
    I think you are wrong with your thinking. The Health Care Bill went thru without the support of the american people. This Amnesty bill will go thru with the so call Super Vote of 51. Dont trust the Republicans on this.

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    You forgot number 6... They are Marxist Socialists...and could care less about American people or the Constitutional government...

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    The only thing that will stop this going through is if Democratic and Republican Senators believe they will lose their jobs if they vote for amnesty.
    Take a stand or all there will be left to do is to ask the last person in the country we once called America to lower the flag one last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettybb
    The only thing that will stop this going through is if Democratic and Republican Senators believe they will lose their jobs if they vote for amnesty.
    Yes that and knowing they can never go home again including the lame ducks if they vote for Amnesty.
    "A Government big enough to give you everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have"* Thomas Jefferson

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    Re: Will Dems "Go For It' on Immigration Reform?

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    Will Dems 'go for it' on immigration reform?

    By: Byron York
    Chief Political Correspondent
    April 23, 2010

    (AP)

    Across Capitol Hill, Republicans are asking just one question about Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid: Are they really going to do it?

    Whatever they choose, Obama, Pelosi and Reid seem to be driven by a desire to avoid, not confront, the voters' top priority, which is the economy and jobs. By huge margins, Americans want their leaders to concentrate on getting people back to work. While it's not quite true to say that nothing else matters, the fact is, nothing else matters nearly as much.

    Just to cite one poll, although there are many, many more: In mid-April, when the New York Times asked people to name the most important problem facing the country, the economy came in first, with 50 percent. Health care came in second, with 8 percent, and after that came the deficit, with 5 percent. Immigration was named by 1 percent of the poll's respondents.

    So why are Obama, Pelosi and Reid going forward? There are five possible explanations.

    5) They're fully aware that the public doesn't want "comprehensive" reform but are racing to do as much as they can before the elections take away their power to defy the public's wishes.
    'Bama is an elitist academic who's disdainful of the concerns of ordinary Americans.

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