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Mexico hasn't paid for the border wall.
Congress hasn't paid for the wall.
No rich people have offered to pay for the wall.
Trump started out saying he needed $25 BILLION for the wall.
He's down to $5.7 billion and still can't get anyone to pay for it.
Trump hasn't told us of any other plan.
SO, NOW WHAT ?
Uh, I think you lost the wall iand a lot of other good Trump ideas on November 6, 2018.
I think we lost some of those things after the presidential campaign, including the immediate ending of DACA!Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
You can't lose what you didn't have. You had annual wall funding with a Republican House and a Republican Senate, now you got NADA butta big ole nasty disgusting hideous worthless expensive shutdown.
I think you guys need to have a couple of more beers and reorganize your priorities.
Just my opinion.
It isn't my wall. It's Trump's wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
And TRUMP has the government SHUTDOWN because of HIS wall. Not me.
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Originally Posted by Judy
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Originally Posted by Judy
You're flipping and flopping more than a big ole catfish on the river bank. It you who just said (several post ago) that we lost it all "November 6, 2018." Now you're saying we never had it. Make up your darn mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
:lol: We both caught the contradiction.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
Now, we're getting somewhere, yes, this is Trump's Wall, his idea, his want, his thinks we needs, his project, hell, you all didn't even know you needed a wall until he told you. So, you got some, more than you had, but you're not getting any more and that closes the chapter on "Build That Wall", unless of course, dear President Trump, determined little worker bee that he is, figures out how to fund his wall without a direct appropriation from the US Congress.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
Nope, I said you lost the wall on November 6, 2018, you had wall, walls were funded every year of his Presidency, now, you've lost that. You're whining about "other good things Trump wants to do" you never had to begin with and will now never have because DemoQuacks own the US House of Representatives and won't ever pass it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MW
How's the new big tall Trump Wall working for you in San Diego, JD2? You like it? Are you happy? Is it doing the job it was built by Trump to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnDoe2
Nope. More inaccuracies. Trump never had funding for his wall. The only funding provided was for some small sector fencing placement already planned, minor upgrades and repairs. The 1.6 billion you keep touting was not funding for Trump's wall. Actually the last omnibus bill specifically denied Trump funding to build his border wall. It's an unfortunate fact, but none the less, it's a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Yes, "small sector fencing placement" = big tall 30' high American made steel fence to defend the US from illegal aliens = wall in English language, definition 6, Merriam Webster.
Are you talking about the 14 miles of secondary fencing in San Diego? Not a lot to thump your chest over considering it took 2 years to get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Yes, that one, the one in Calexico, the one in Santa Teresa, NM, the one in Yuma, AZ, the levee concrete wall in the Rio Grande Valley Sector near McAllen, TX, and some others. Then there's the 84 miles that was in your article and another 115 miles in Texas. BP has a list of these, there's 10 more top priorities they would like to do in the next two years and that's what the $5.7 billion is for. Trump got all the money for the other ones I've mentioned and is trying to get another $5.7 to do these next 10 projects, so says Border Patrol.
I love the tall see-through 30' foot American made steel "fences". They're beautiful.
I kind of like the metal bollard design. But it should have some bar welded on to it at vehicle height. Otherwise they will just ram some wedge through it enough to get a body through. A lot of these migrants are construction workers and they are not stupid.
What you're talking about is mostly replacement fencing, not Trump's border wall. Trump has not received any funding for a new border wall. The last omnibus bill he signed specifically prevents him from building a border wall. All he is authorized to do, as I've already said, is replace fencing, do some upgrades to already existing fencing, maintenance and repairs. For the most part the fencing you're talking about is not new fencing, it's replacement fencing. There is not one foot of Trump's campaigned for border wall. Oh, and there has not been "another" 115 miles of border wall or even fencing built in Texas ... just some replacement fencing. The priorities you're referring to do not equate to Trump's border wall. Priorities are just that, priorities, not a physical border wall built.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Obfuscation and exaggeration does not change the facts.
They use the bar to stand on and climb up over the fence, so it needs to be on the US side if they use the cross beam to support the structure. Putting them on the Mexico side, creates a ladder for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captainron
Yes, when you replace existing structures with new structures, the new structures and new structures. If someone tears down an old house and builds a new one in the same spot, what do you call that? I guess in your mind those new homes and new businesses and new roads don't exist, those new stores don't exist, all the investors, occupants and businesses occupying them and traffic driving on them and who built them don't exist in your alternate universe.Quote:
Originally Posted by MW
This is really too stupid to waste time and space on.
This may be coming.
Trump Can Start Laying Off Furloughed Workers After 30 Days ‘Reduction In Force’ Procedure
https://www.alipac.us/f9/trump-can-s...2-proc-369057/
That is sick, and he should not do anything of the sort.
Layoff all the Obama ones :grin:
And yet you keep doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
You don't support smaller government and a reduction in annual spending?Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
I suspect corrupt border patrol agents and the cartels prefer it too. I've heard it said that the bollard fencing designs makes it easier for cartels to pass drugs, cash, and money cards through the slats. Same thing for border patrol taking payoffs. This is one of the reasons I prefer Trump's original idea of a big beautiful steel rebar reinforced concrete wall. I think he had it right during the campaign. The border patrol have their own reasons for supporting the bollard style fencing and it may not all be good. If BP can see through it, so can illegals and cartel members.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captainron
Well, of these 9 departments, I'd like to see an elimination of the 113,000 employees of the IRS by passing the FairTax but until we pass the FairTax I imagine we need them to process your silly little tax return mess and make sure you get all your little deductions and tax credit entitlements you like so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by MW
I'd like to see thousands of more federal employees working for DHS, more Border Patrol, more ICE agents, more Immigration Judges, more Immigration Prosecutors for DOJ, more Detention Space for Immigration violators and illegal aliens, and more workers to operate those facilities according to federal and state laws.
I'd like to see thousands of more federal employees working for the US Department of Interior, forestry rangers, federal land rangers, national parks rangers and so forth to better patrol and manage our federal properties and protect them from illegal aliens, poachers, polluters, trespassers, arsonists and gross negligence.
I'd like to see expansion including more money and employees of the US Department of Labor so it can better enforce US labor laws against illegal aliens, illegal workers and illegal employers including those who cheat on work visas and better protect the American Worker.
I'd like to see a reduction in spending on Medicaid, Food Stamps, and other Subsistence type programs related to poverty and unemployment by continuing to grow the economy properly, increase good paying jobs for Americans, run illegal alien and excess legal workers out of here, and cut these programs by at least 50% in the near term because people no longer qualify because they've moved to the work force at good wages and can sustain themselves.
I actually like the way Trump is managing the federal government, EXCEPT FOR THIS STUPID SHUTDOWN, where he's reducing by attrition and vacancies, reducing regulations and unnecessary paperwork projects, while requesting expansion of those agencies where we need more federal workers to enforce our laws and fix our problems. Excluding military soldiers and USPS, we only have about 2 million federal workers for manage and govern our nation of 330,000,000 people, so to me, federal civilian workers are not a burden at all. that's only 3/4 of 1% of our population employed to do all the things we want and demand they do. Again, we could knock that down by passing the FairTax and eliminating those 113,000 IRS workers, reassign them to important matters or help them find good jobs in the private sector, with their skills, I imagine they would be in high demand.
Judy wrote (excerpt):
I asked you a legitimate question and you used it as an opportunity to personally attack me. Not cool. :eek:Quote:
Well, of these 9 departments, I'd like to see an elimination of the 113,000 employees of the IRS by passing the FairTax but until we pass the FairTax I imagine we need them to process your silly little tax return mess and make sure you get all your little deductions and tax credit entitlements you like so much.
What makes the income tax "personally" you? I think you're mixed up. The income tax applies to everyone. It even applies to illegal aliens. So there's nothing "personally" or specially about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MW
You're the one that used "you" and "your" to personally identify me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judy
Reminder of what you said:
If that's not a personal attack, I don't know what is.Quote:
Well, of these 9 departments, I'd like to see an elimination of the 113,000 employees of the IRS by passing the FairTax but until we pass the FairTax I imagine we need them to process your silly little tax return mess and make sure you get all your little deductions and tax credit entitlements you like so much.
Because, you're the one who asked the question, not because there's something "personally" or specially about you when it comes to the income tax.
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Originally Posted by Judy