Thread: Third Party not a Option

OK after much thought and consideration here it is. The Forming or Joining of a Third party is not an Option, IT would never work and it is so far out of the box most Americans will not go for it. Most Americans vote either democrat or Republican. IF they dont like who is running in thier party they simpley dont vote. If we are going to have any success we need to get people in the republican party. That way we do not split the votes between die hard republicans and independants. If we split the vote we will never Win. We have to unit.

Tex, - I am going to have to agree and disagree.

I do think a third party is not only possible - it is absolutely necessary.

Now, I don't think it will come about by the next Presidential race. If we had someone with upteen billions dollars - we would have a third party overnight - but it will be an uphill battle.

Whoever tries will be up against the same formidable bunch we are - the government, the media, the corporations, the government funded organizations and some foreign governments - and there is always the touchy feely crowd.

I am not sure falling in line totally with the Republicans is the answer either - any more than falling in line with the Democrats is the answer.

It is a fact, this time and the Presidential election, barring some great miracle, we will have a Republican or Democrat for President - and we will have a Republican or Democratic majority.

Now we can form our own sorta third party this coming election by voting out everyone now in office. Everyone that is, that hasn't been totally on our side - TAncredo is a for sure. I am grateful for those who have seemed to become enlightened in the last few months - but am still skeptical.

The critters in WAshington have a way of putting on a little play for our benefit everytime there is a tough bill or an election. They choose up who will be good cop and who will be bad cop.

But if we just put all of them out - just don't think party - don't think name - vote out anyone in office unless your person was staunch and tough on the issue.

But just look what the Republicans have done to our state.
Not a totally correct statement - these people are not Republicans - they have hijacked the Republican Party for their own vile agenda.

there already IS a third party....the Independent Party (and does anyone know if the "Green Party" reached official status?)

Originally Posted by Tex

OK after much thought and consideration here it is. The Forming or Joining of a Third party is not an Option, IT would never work and it is so far out of the box most Americans will not go for it. Most Americans vote either democrat or Republican. IF they dont like who is running in thier party they simpley dont vote. If we are going to have any success we need to get people in the republican party. That way we do not split the votes between die hard republicans and independants. If we split the vote we will never Win. We have to unit.

I just dont think the Third party is the best option all it is doing is dividing the troops. Which is one of the biggest problems we have. A vast majority of Americans will not vote democrat. A vast majority do not like what the democratic party has come to. Thier all about gays, killing babies, illegal aliens and everything else not right. There is already a strong Conservative spirit in the republican party that just needs to be helped along. The best way to victory is do what the enemy is doing Inflitrate. If the independant party was to join the republican party we would have a strong voice that would have to be heared by the GOP. We would have the conservative GOP vote plus the Independant vote that would make us successful to accomplish what we want. If you want a good example go to www.savethegop.com/ that kid in PA has a good website. Tho i dont agree with everything he says at least he is open for debate and has a good moral foundation and he is not crooked.

Divided we can not get enough votes!

one problem: those in the Independent Party are there because they don't agree with the Republican platform (and specifically some of the issues you mentioned below) and they especially don't agree with Conservatives. That will be a difficult joint venture to try to achieve.

I think the Republicans need to temporarily stop pushing their "pet issues" and join the Independents in a unified attempt to stop this immigration and United North Americas mess.

Originally Posted by Tex

I just dont think the Third party is the best option all it is doing is dividing the troops. Which is one of the biggest problems we have. A vast majority of Americans will not vote democrat. A vast majority do not like what the democratic party has come to. Thier all about gays, killing babies, illegal aliens and everything else not right. There is already a strong Conservative spirit in the republican party that just needs to be helped along. The best way to victory is do what the enemy is doing Inflitrate. If the independant party was to join the republican party we would have a strong voice that would have to be heared by the GOP. We would have the conservative GOP vote plus the Independant vote that would make us successful to accomplish what we want. If you want a good example go to www.savethegop.com/ that kid in PA has a good website. Tho i dont agree with everything he says at least he is open for debate and has a good moral foundation and he is not crooked.

Divided we can not get enough votes!

Perot and his Reform Party garnered around 18 percent of the vote in.... was it 1980? Pert' near one-in-five voters so disgruntled they went with Perot!!!! I was one of 'em.

Historically, 3rd parties haven't done well. Thank the mass media, the elite ownership of that media, and the masses of droid-like Americans unable to think outside of the box they were acculterated within and the constant propaganda bombardment intended to maintain the status quo the elite graps onto like a fat old guy like me clutching his beloved sausage biscuits, one per hand, a delighted grin upon my face since they were on sale for 99-cents each. Yum.

Peeking at voting data one can determine that America's older folks vote at a greater percentage than younger folks. Wealthier vote more than poorer folk. Home owners vote more than renters.

Considering who votes in greater percentages any new party has to concoct a plan to reach those who vote most often.

It is possible that that old data may be skewed by the growing anger of the populace against invasion. Another factor to consider if a new party enters the fray.

Locally, some chap named Nabbity ran for Governor of Nebraska... a Republican, he was running in a primary to determine which of the Republican candidates would go for the gold this coming November. When the lad first began running I contacted him and informed him there was but ONE way for him to win..... start off with a STRONG anti-invasion stance and push push push that platform.

Sadly, the guv wannabe did not follow my advice. He gathered a mere 7 percent of the votes. Foolish boy. Anybody here recall the recent posts proclaiming that the governor incumbent defeated the great beloved Coach Osborne (peace be upon him, hallowed be his name, all hale the great Coach) who was leaving Congress in an attempt to be Nebraska's governor. Almost everybody assumed Osborne (hallowed be his name) would easily win. BUT, as many writers wrote after Osborne (peace be upon him) LOST (shock gasp) it was due to the incumbent Heinemann taking an anti-invader stance midway through the campaign.

If Nabbity had taken that stance from the get-go, I believe he may have had a shot at winning.

Considering Nebraska's election outcome I believe an "America First" or whatever party COULD have a shot at victory with a very strong well-thought-out anti-invasion platform.

As for all other issues..... follow the "middle ground."

Wouldn't it be nifty keen and liver quiverin' delightful if a viable third part arose that we could rally around?

You betcha!!!!!

That campaign slogan of yore shouted out, "A chicken in every pot."

Personally, I prefer "A sausage biscuit in every hand" but, that's just my peccadillo, the wanton hunger of a mere one old fat guy huddled in his shanty upon the barren tornado-swept plains of the cultural backwater of Nebraska.

Yep'.