Place Your Messages to the Summit Leaders HERE!

Friends of ALIPAC:

Whether you plan to attend the historic Unite to Fight illegal immigration summit or not, I want to make sure your messages are heard. Please use this thread to post your suggested messages.

I will be speaking for 20 minutes to the crowd on Sat. and I want to give you every opportunity to have input on my speech.

If you are attending, drop me an email at WilliamG@alipac.us because several ALIPAC members attending will be having a meeting after my speech.

Kind Regards,

William Gheen
President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC)

William, you know all our issues.

In 20 minutes, you'll not have long....the time as you know will go quickly.

1) SECURE Borders with National Guard Troops NOW...immediately or within 30 days from yesterday!!

2) NO Central American Free Trade Agreement

3) NO Open Borders, Security and Prosperity Partnership with Mexico and Canada

4) NO Free Trade Agreement of the Americas

5) NO McCain Kennedy Secure America & Orderly Immigration Act which legalizes illegal immigration that will flood the country

6) Americans can't breathe, because we're suffocating by the squeeze of illegal immigration.....we need air.....we need space....so ALIENS BACK OFF, BACK UP, BACK OUT!!

7) Shut down 501 C 3 "public charities" using their fortunes to influence public policy and affect the outcome of legislation in direct violation of federal tax code

8) Boycott....National Boycott

Have a great trip and drop us a note before you leave!!

Talking Point:
Just as pot is concidered to be a "Gateway Drug" that leads to harder drug use, Illegal Immigration is a "Gateway Crime".

• They start with Illegal Immigration
  Now they need fake SS number
  Fake Driver's Liscense
  Drive with no Insurance
  Fake voter ID
  Vote Fraud

By this time the laws of the land are a joke to them so they move on to

• Burglery/theft
  drug trafficing/sales/use
  Rape
  Murder

W Gheen;

Make it known that, the Real ID Act (I know some have problems with this law and I have some doubts too) was just a tiny first step of enforcement. The same old open Border still exists and cheap labor is still business as usual. Our 'Stop illegal immigration' movement by all Americans needs to move to the next message or enforcement to get through (ideally Troops on the Border or just Border Security) our Federal Government's head. So that we weigh down ever increasingly upon illegal Aliens and mexico to make it known their action won't be tolerated and their will or incentive to trample America will be rubbed out --- that U.S. jurisdictional law will be recognized and only legal immigration will get them the prize.


Sincerely,
Respectfully

William,

It can't be said loudly enough. Secure the border! We need to secure it so that we know who is coming into our country, and who is leaving. Every other objective, initiative, concept is meaningless if we do not have a way to track who has entered and left.

We may never reach 100% accountability, but we must reduce the flow of illegal immigration to a manageable number who can then be dealt with appropriately with laws already on the books. Until we can accurately keep track of who has entered the country, we may as well just leave the welcome mat on the door.

You have very limited time, but it would be helpful to discuss Mexico's strategy to export its underclass to the US and avoid making the economic reforms that would reduce the incentive for illegals to leave their own country.

When he was promoting his Ag-Jobs Amnesty bill on the floor of the Senate, Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) used charts showing a significant drop in illegal immigration levels which he falsely claimed were due to the "successful" Bracero Program. He wanted people to believe that his bill would have a similar effect.

In actuality, the drop was due to President Eisenhower's Operation Wetback. I would like to see you call for another Operation Wetback in conjunction with putting the National Guard on the borders and a crackdown on those employers who hire illegals. That should get the ball rolling in the right direction! After we show we are serious, we can use other methods like the SAVE program and Basic Pilot Program to ferret out the ones who are seeking employment &/or public services and encourage them to "self-deport."

· Fully fund and man border patrol – Capitalize on military technology for detection equipment
· Enforce and increase penalties for companies that employ illegal aliens – Publicize to deter others
· End all public benefits to illegal aliens – From welfare, education, HUD loans, and even health care
· Verify citizenship prior to issuing drivers licenses – This doesn’t require a national ID system
· Stop 72 deportation notices (aka: run letters) – It’s like mailing a letter to criminals prior to arrests
· End the chain migration system – 69% of legal immigration – Spouse, children (even adults), siblings
· Invest in interior enforcement – ICE agents deporting illegal aliens entrenched throughout the US
· Assure criminal conviction of an illegal alien leads to deportation and permanent exclusion
· Demand Mexican government support to end illegal immigration – Currently supporting migration

William, great job! While I won't go into lots of ideas previously posted by myself, feel free to use some one liners of mine in your speech if you like. They are:

Why is common sense not so common anymore?

Mr. President, get onboard now or be left at the station. This train is pulling out.

The only immigration reform we want is enforcement.

The troops are ready for deployment but the brass is weak.

Is it asking too much for legal citizens not to be able to divert their Federal taxes in order to facilitate the building of the wall at the unsecure border sooner?

The volunteers in AZ are only going there because of the titantic failure on the part of the federals to do what you were sworn to do in taking the pledge to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America.

Mr. President, will it be you or the President behind you that will enforce the immigration laws?

Mr. President, we're not going down without a fight. Will you join us in this bold and courageous endeavor? Stop this invasion!

Do not reward the illegals with temporary worker status. It is an insult to immigrants who are on the legal path of citizenship.

No house is secure with the back door standing wide open. It is an invitation.

Good luck and Godspeed William. May you bring us one step closer to enforcement here in NC and the rest of the USA.

The "anchor baby" policy should end now!!! If a baby is born in America to an illegal alien, he or she should not be considered a citizen. Another thing that infuriates me is all this Spanish language everywhere. And has anyone else noticed how it seems that every commercial on television has Hispanics in it? The powers that be are trying to ram them down our throats!!! I am tired of appealing to our so called "elected officials." It is obvious that everything they propose is still trying to please the big money interests who want Illegals here. I thought America was supposed to be governed by the majority of the people. ALL POLLS SHOW THAT THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS DO NOT WANT THE ILLEGALS HERE. THAT SHOULD BE THE END OF THE STORY!!! Please stress that average Americans do not want or need the services Illegal Aliens provide. We would rather do without!!! Let the businesses that hire them go under. No wonder President Fox is so arrogant, he thinks we cannot survive without his "wonderful people"- WRONG!!! :x

The "anchor baby" policy should end now!!! If a baby is born in America to an illegal alien, he or she should not be considered a citizen. Another thing that infuriates me is all this Spanish language everywhere. And has anyone else noticed how it seems that every commercial on television has Hispanics in it? The powers that be are trying to ram them down our throats!!! I am tired of appealing to our so called "elected officials." It is obvious that everything they propose is still trying to please the big money interests who want Illegals here. I thought America was supposed to be governed by the majority of the people. ALL POLLS SHOW THAT THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS DO NOT WANT THE ILLEGALS HERE. THAT SHOULD BE THE END OF THE STORY!!! Please stress that average Americans do not want or need the services Illegal Aliens provide. We would rather do without!!! Let the businesses that hire them go under. No wonder President Fox is so arrogant, he thinks we cannot survive without his "wonderful people"- WRONG!!! :x

Just wing it, man. You got all this stuff down cold. You have an important message to deliver to the American public. And we couldn't ask for a better spokesman to deliver that message. So we all appreciate what you are doing. And remember: 80% of the American people stand directly behind you. So don't be put off by a tiny minority of dunces carping away in the background.

:arrow: NO more "talk" concerning Medical Insurance & the uninsured UNTIL ILLEGALS ARE GONE and no longer counted in the "uninsured" stats.

:arrow: NO more "talk" concerning our lagging EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM until ILLEGALS ARE GONE and no longer bringing the "test scores" down.

I believe one of the most important issues, that is under everyone’s radar is the way the census works and the fact that Congressional representation is based on total population not total legal population. This gives the states and communities packed with illegal aliens weight that prevents effective reform.

I also believe when the inevitable amnesty is given that anyone entering this country illegally should never be allowed to vote.

Frankly I think all we are doing at this point is postponing the inevitable. Unless we get rid of chain migration and force assimilation we will have lost this country through the ballot box in another 25 years.

I believe at this point I would trade an amnesty with the end of chain migration and family reunification, for a 20 year immigration moratorium, not voting rights for those who were here illegally, and deportation of all violent criminals, and a secure border. Once again the danger is the ballot box.

Patriotman

:x William, the BUCK STOPS HERE: OUR CHILDREN, OUR SCHOOLS.
September 1, 2004 terrorists seized a school in Beslan, Russia killing more than 200 people. Millions of American parents are enraged over the lack of security on our borders because we know that our schools are a soft target for terrorists. If President Bush and Congress do not want to put the National Guard on our borders, than at the very least they should be stationed on the grounds of our schools. THIS IS THE EPITOME OF THE NEGLIGENCE THIS ADMINISTRATION IS DISPLAYING. Our children are helpless in defending themselves from such danger. I don't care what the cost, take the billions of dollars spent on educating illegal immigrants, and PROTECT AMERICA'S CHILDREN AND THEIR TEACHERS NOW.

[quote][The final REAL ID bill still contains its most precious much-resisted language: preventing the acceptance of "any foreign document" as a stepping-stone to a state driver’s license. It prohibits the use of the Mexican government’s infamous "Matricula Consular" card…although unfortunately not for three years. So expect a "get ‘em while you can, Amigos" campaign by the Mexican Consulate sometime before the May, 2008 deadline.

Who can still get a driver’s license under the REAL ID Act of 2005? [H.R. 1268, 109th Congress (2005), [PDF] (see pages 81-85)]

Here’s who:

"(B) EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL STATUS- A State shall require, before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person, valid documentary evidence that the person--

(i) is a citizen or national of the United States;

(ii) is an alien lawfully admitted for permanent or temporary residence in the United States;

(iii) has conditional permanent resident status in the United States;

(iv) has an approved application for asylum in the United States or has entered into the United States in refugee status;

(v) has a valid, unexpired nonimmigrant visa or nonimmigrant visa status for entry into the United States;

(vi) has a pending application for asylum in the United States;

(vii) has a pending or approved application for temporary protected status in the United States;

(viii) has approved deferred action status; or

(ix) has a pending application for adjustment of status to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States or conditional permanent resident status in the United States."

That sure covers a lot of foreign nationals getting state drivers licenses! But here’s the part about temporary licenses that makes for most of the loopholes:

"If a person presents evidence under any of clauses (v) through (ix) of subparagraph (B), the State may only issue a temporary driver's license or temporary identification card to the person."

In fact, of course, [b]the United States citizens in group (i) are the only people listed in the REAL ID Act who absolutely, positively do have permanent status in the United States. All of the other categories cover foreign nationals whose legal status in the United States is subject to revocation or expiration. (Yes, I do realize that United States citizenship can be renouncedâ€â€

Being an immigrant myself, I dismiss the notion that because we are a nation of immigrants we do not have the right and responsibility to regain control of our borders. I equally reject the assumption that raising the concern about limiting the number of people migrating to the U.S. equates to bigotry.
New immigrants will play a major and positive role in the future of America, uncontrolled immigration will not.

A steady and limited flow of immigrants will help maintain diversity and dynamism. New immigrants will continue to be a key factor in the future of the United States, by contributing new ideals and by reinvigorating our democratic institutions with their appreciation of freedom that so many of us take for granted.

Large and uncontrolled mass exodus into this country will put a strain on American institutions and local communities.

The U.S. is a mature country now, with established institutions, and unified around common history, values and ideals. It is a country with roots and with a heritage. Even though the American culture is always changing, it is nonetheless very much unique to the people of this land.

1) By far the most important action is to enforce current laws and increase the penalties for companies profiteering by hiring illegal immigrants.
Penalties need to be high enough to take away any economic incentive for a business taking the risk in hiring them and high enough to self fund the resources necessary to effectively enforce them.
If the demand is curtailed for illegal labor, it will be a disincentive for many to come here illegally in the first place, and many already here will go back voluntarily to their respective countries of origin.

2) US military’s main role is to defend US sovereignty, let them then start by securing our borders.
This is, first of all, a national security issue.

3) Securing our borders is not enough, as many come here legally on student or tourist visas and end up staying illegally.
More resources and manpower is needed to effectively track those here in temporary visas.

4) Numerous cases of people getting married to allow the illegal spouse to get the green card, without even pretending to live at the same address. This is simply making a mockery of marriage.
The INS needs to start conducting due diligence in identifying these marriages of convenience.
There also should be legal repercussions to the legal resident that consented to marry an illegal immigrant to enable that person to get the green card.

5) Standardize and enforce verification of legal status before issuing driving licenses in all states.

6) Tighten the rules for political asylum seekers. It is preposterous to have immigrants arriving here from democratic countries and filing for political asylum, which gives them an automatic carte blanche to stay.

William Gheen: I know you have a zillion possible issues to address. My feeling right now is that the number one priority is the McCain-Kennedy Amnesty Bill. If this travesty passes then its all over. This is where the battle-line is being drawn, and we have to rally all our forces and not only defeat that bill, but CRUSH it. We have to let these politicians know that its a new day, and that anybody who supports amnesty for illegals, well, THEIR CAREERS ARE OVER! 80% of the American people want to STOP illegal immigration. Get out of our way or GET CRUSHED.

Well, thats my li'l sound byte.

Americans are being attacked and threatened physically (ie..Baldwin Park and Garden Grove!

Attacked mind you and nothing is being done to protect the citizens of this country from physical harm!!!!!

ECONOMIC TERRORISTS

ECONOMIC TERRORISM

Change the words for them and it will change the way people think of them subliminally!! They will not even realize it when it is happening!

Stay SAFE, my friend!!

One thing you might want to consider is national media attention in the same way that Michael Moore rankled everyone with Fahrenheit 9/11. I have some ideas, and am very passionate about this cause. If you'd like to contact me, feel free.

Perhaps another idea would be to create a third political party. Obviously the Republicans and the Democrats choose not to get it.

:D Welcome Writestuffla!!! Neat name! We agree with you, and I think it was Judy who suggested that we need another party and that it should be called, The American Party.

We have a great candidate to run on it too, Tom Tancredo.
Now he has three party choices, Republican, Independent, and maybe the American Party, if it were to really come about. I say anything can happen. If this can be happening to the United States of America, then anything can happen.

By the way, within this HUGE group of Americans who are fighting for our country's sovereignty and security, there ARE NUMEROUS POSSIBLE CANDIDATES, READY, WILLING, AND ABLE TO REPLACE THOSE WHO WILL BE OUTBOUND IN 2006. There are going to be many job openings in Washington soon, as we're cleaning house in America! IN FACT, MANY OF OUR IMMIGRATION REFORM ACTIVIST LEADERS ARE NOW BETTER KNOWN TO AMERICANS THAN THE PEOPLE PRESENTLY UP IN WASHINGTON.

Hi there, writestuffla! And a great big welcome to you! :D

We are all in total agreement with you! The economic terrorists in this country must be stopped.

Does anybody know Oprah? She is totally against breaking the law. And I've heard her say she does not like the people who are coming here illegally.

Any ideas on that anyone?

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Originally Posted by Pete_in_VA

· Fully fund and man border patrol – Capitalize on military technology for detection equipment
· Enforce and increase penalties for companies that employ illegal aliens – Publicize to deter others
· End all public benefits to illegal aliens – From welfare, education, HUD loans, and even health care
· Verify citizenship prior to issuing drivers licenses – This doesn’t require a national ID system
· Stop 72 deportation notices (aka: run letters) – It’s like mailing a letter to criminals prior to arrests
· End the chain migration system – 69% of legal immigration – Spouse, children (even adults), siblings
· Invest in interior enforcement – ICE agents deporting illegal aliens entrenched throughout the US
· Assure criminal conviction of an illegal alien leads to deportation and permanent exclusion
· Demand Mexican government support to end illegal immigration – Currently supporting migration

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Very good position post. Welcome to Alipac, Pete.

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Originally Posted by writestuffla

One thing you might want to consider is national media attention in the same way that Michael Moore rankled everyone with Fahrenheit 9/11. I have some ideas, and am very passionate about this cause. If you'd like to contact me, feel free.

Perhaps another idea would be to create a third political party. Obviously the Republicans and the Democrats choose not to get it.

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The only problem is so much of Moores stuff was terrible distortion of the truth. He and Oliver Stone make great fiction.

However, I have been kicking around some ideas about a video documentary. Maybe we should get together and exchange some ideas.

Welcome Aboard, writestuffla

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Originally Posted by LegalUSCitizen

...NUMEROUS POSSIBLE CANDIDATES, READY, WILLING, AND ABLE TO REPLACE THOSE WHO WILL BE OUTBOUND IN 2006. There are going to be many job openings in Washington soon, as we're cleaning house in America!

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I got a call from the State Republican Party a couple days ago, wanting more money etc. Telling about how Dean is launching this offensive against republicans on the state level etc etc.

I did sit thru the recording, and waited for some dude to come on who siad he would "Make it brief..."then gave me another spiel about how they needed my support etc. (lots of etc's I know.. but the details are REALLY boring)

Anyway, when I got my chance to respond... well this is paraphrased, but damn close..

"I appreciate your situation, but I shall in turn be brief as well. I have been a lifelong Republican, and as I am sure you already know, I and my family have contributed considerable money as well as time in activism for the party. I voted Republican in every presidential election in 22 years. But I am VERY ------- off about the current policies regarding Illegal Immigration, and I promise you that until I see some serious changes in direction, I will be throwing my support behind kicking every incumbent out of office in the next election, no matter what his party is."

He came back telling me that the state republican party cannot do anything about what the feds are doing, to which I responded that they better pass it up the food chain to the higher levels, because when they lose the support of diehard republicans like myself, they have a BIG problem.

Sorry if I got off the thread topic with these three posts, but I saw some interesting statements I wanted to respond to, and kinda forgot what this thread was for. Been a long day.

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"I appreciate your situation, but I shall in turn be brief as well. I have been a lifelong Republican, and as I am sure you already know, I and my family have contributed considerable money as well as time in activism for the party. I voted Republican in every presidential election in 22 years. But I am VERY ------- off about the current policies regarding Illegal Immigration, and I promise you that until I see some serious changes in direction, I will be throwing my support behind kicking every incumbent out of office in the next election, no matter what his party is."

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I did the same thing. In faxes and emails. I told the President no more money until he secured our borders and did something about the economic terrorists who are draining our social service resources. I asked him if the last election drained his brain of all his sensibilities regarding our own Country as it seemed he only cared about everyone else's.

I told him no more money from my household, my parent's, my uncle's, aunt's, sister's, all my family's and most my friend's until he does something for this Country -- get rid of the economic terrorists before they take over us.

Period.