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    Blackwater and the Bush Legacy

    Blackwater and the Bush Legacy
    How Bush has created a moral vacuum in Iraq in which Americans can kill for free.
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    Sept. 20, 2007 - Imagine a universe where a man can gun down women and children anytime he pleases, knowing he will never be brought to justice. A place where morality is null and void, and arbitrary killing is the rule. A place that has been imagined hitherto only in nightmarish dystopian fiction, like “1984,â€
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    Thank you for your service to our nation .

    I don't know about the war, but I do know that most people join the military have to obey the commanders . Some lose it after so much time . Some should not be there .

    I was for the war when my son first went to iraq, but with time changed my mind . Now we are stuck there it seems .

    I see what these brainwashed people do to others who are foolish enough to let them into their nations . I will go on that . Who knows who the enemy is overthere ? I would think anyone who practices islam is suspect . I know some we train kill our troops with the weapons we supply . I know a nice young man I was writting from ," anysoldier.com " was more than likely the heli pilot that went down with 17 others in Mosul .He never got to thank me for the last package sent to him and his men .

    He too cared for the iraqis , ask me to send him little toys and wrapped candy to throw out when he flew over the kids . I sent dollar store candy and small toy ,cost more to send than buy . Also sent the men snacks and hygene poducts .

    I see nothing but misery for the citizens in Indonesia, Thailand, India , Philipines , France , Iran, Saudi Araba , Bosnia , Croatia ,and many other nations where islam rules . So I don't have the same kind of compassion for these people anymore . When I see them here they are arrogant, rude and demanding . When they see me and mine they see infidels .

    I hope we get out of that hellhole and wish to goodness we never got mixed up in it .

    We have a few soldiers of fortune in Blackwater, they have millions comming from every stinking cult in the middle east . The tortures , chopping up and beheading from these barbareans make me sick . They love death, we love life .

    Do you know what they did to those two very young soldiers ,one was 19 if I remember right ? First off they kept them alive with drugs to increase their torture . Then they started slicing off fingers , toes, hands, arms ,plusked out their eyes , castrated them, fed them their testicles ! Then they burned and sliced some more, before beheading them . The Navy Seal who was captured when heli went down, same kind of shiite ! A couple months ago a family was invited to dinner and served up their 10 yr. old child on a platter where they had roasted the child . This to make an example to others .

    Sorry but I don't have much pity left in me about these pagans . And AabuGrabe was a walk in the park in comparrison . Van Gogh is lucky he was riding down the sreet in daylight when one slit his throat and practically beheaded him ,spoiled their fun .

    This is what our leaders are delivering here to us soon . 100,000 was last estimate, but we know it will be lots more, because they never tell the truth . We already have them in politicle offices, one a blantant muslim named Ellison . Maybe one running for president .

    We have paramilitary camps all over this nation and thousands of mosque . Check out 'ISLAMBURG ' for staters.

    I just want our troops out of there . Bless your heart, you probably don't know . I'm glad your safe and hope you stay that way.

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    About My military Background

    About My military Background:Arctic Expert, JRC, Fort Greeley Alaska; Jungle Warfare Expert JWTC Fort Sherman, Panama; Battle of Grenada; Battle of Panama; Somalia Humanitarian Crisis; Haiti Humanitarian crisis; Gulf War I; Bosnia; Kosovo; Cold War / Eastern Warsaw Block Countries. Significant areas, Arctic (Alaska), Desert (Kuwait / Iraq), Mountains (Bosnia / Kosovo / Alaska); Significant Countries / Continents - Europe (Germany), South America (Panama / Honduras); Asia (Korea, Kuwait, Iraq); retired just before 9 - 11, Gulf war II / Afghanistan Campaign.
    Sapper Leader Course (Engineer Ranger)Fort Leonard Wood Missouri; Airborne School, Fort Benning Georgia; Air Assault School, Fort Campbell Kentucky; Drill Sergeant School, Fort Leonard Wood Missouri; NBC School - Nuclear, Biological, Chemical School; Hohenfels Germany; ANCOC - Advanced Non Commissioned Officer Course, Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri; BNCOC - Basic Non Commissioned Officer Course, Hohenfels Germany; PNCOC - Primary Non Commissioned Officer Course, Fort Richardson Alaska.
    Airborne Wings, Air Assault Wings, Drill Sergeant Badge, GAFET - German Armed Forces Efficiency Tab (Gold Medal), Shutzenschnier - German Marksmanship Badge (Bronze Medal), Good Conduct Medal - 7th Award, Meritorious Service Medal - 2nd Oak Leaf Cluster, NATO Service Ribbon, NCO Development Ribbon - 3rd Award, Army Commendation Medal - 3rd Oak leaf clusters, Army Achievement Medal - 3rd Oak leaf clusters, National Defense Service Medal, Rifle - Sharp Shooter, Grenade - Expert

    With all of that said.... BlackWater and President Bush's policys are so out of line from the norm ... it's just plain scary. These mercs are as nutty as they come and this President is out of control

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqM4tKPDlR8

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N83BdpNP ... ed&search=

    I know some of these men personally and would fight beside them... but other than that... they scare the hell out of me... My concern is if companys like blackwater get turned loose on the American public as part of a police state ... believe me people... these are very mean critters and are programed to kill as easily as you peel a potato. They make more in a month than most special forces soldiers earn in a year... and money can buy a mans soul .. at least these men....I just dont know... I could have went, but hung up my boots to be close to my children

    Now read the article again... and picture you and your children walking down the street.. it starts to rain so you pull out your umbrella as a convey of blackwater is driving by.... it looks like a thunder stick to the mercs, so they let loose with a .50 caliber machine gun on auto that could cut a grizzly bear in half with about 10 shots... you and your little ones just wanted to stay dry from the spring rain ..... now, not only do the Iraqi civilians have to worry about terrorists... they have to worry about blackwater .... Now you tell me if they are going to hold a grudge against the US... we are the ones footing the bill for blackwater and many other companies of mercenarys that are in Iraq... they tarnish all of the good work that are soldiers are doing

    If Bush can shield Blackwater and other mercs from prosecution... who's to say they cannot do it here under protection from executive orders and FEMAs all powerful hand
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    All this happenng in this nation and others worldwde really depresses me . I am not myself anymore .

    I am totally against Bush and all his policies ! I am against them all for what they have done to this nation and others, like the Balkans .

    I am very proud of you and others ,but not the ones who start these wars or the ones who kill for naught .

    All religions some time or other has commited evil . But most did it against their reigion and were hypocrits . Not Ilsma, it's religion demands violence and world submission . Otterman Empire ,muslims almost conquored the world , but they met their match witrh some other force 'Inquisition ' .or Crusaders who ended up being just as bloody .

    Where are the peaceful muslims ? Who would be a part of such a violent therocracy ?

    I had just as soon help out the Nazis and they were just as bad.

    Sometimes you can't see the forrest for the trees . But i do agree with a lot of what you say . And you are one of my heros, not some over paid atheletes ,but people like you ,our cops and firemen .

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    Who do you think we should have attacked after 911 ?

    There ae many conspiracies going around and some need checking into ,imo. I am not convinced about much of anything anymore . When the nation hides and keeps secrets from it's people, they will form their own reasons .

    I think it has been Saudi Arabia from the begining . I also think instead of killing a bunch of who were no threat to us had a dark secret behind it .

    I think the biggest threat to global peace is islam . Aand when 911 happened , Medina and Mecca 'the hornets nest of the world ' should have been our targets . That would have put an end to a whole lot of killing in a lot of first and third world nations .

    Get rid of appeasers and put in a Patton .

    I think some elites and world leaders from all parts of the globe are using this religion to take over the world , when they are finished using their brutality, they will either elemiate or rein in them also .

    But I can change my mind in five minutes with more evidence to the contrary .

    Do you know wehere the word 'barbarean' came from ? Do you know why Thomas Jefferson had a copy of the Quran ?

    The Barbary Coast had pirates stealing our imports and exports . They were muslims . Jefferson decided to know his enemy . This has ben turned around by the new age historians that he loved islam so he studied Quran !

    This push to conquor the world and subject it to islam is not new .

    Also I can be corrected ,because I forgot a lot of histroy , 'more than most American citizens knew to begin with ' .

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    they will not me put in what I truly think... as a matter of fact... they will not even let me contact other members on this site... I guess my thinking is a little too agressive..... but if it was up to me there would be several places on the globe lit up like christmas tree's
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirborneSapper7
    they will not me put in what I truly think... as a matter of fact... they will not even let me contact other members on this site... I guess my thinking is a little too agressive..... but if it was up to me there would be several places on the globe lit up like christmas tree's
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    Did you get my pm?


    Rawhide!
    I did and tried to post back but it said the moderator did not allow me to PM on this site.... no problem with me but I did want to say thank you for your kind words.... I did not expect or ask for it... I was just doing my job. Its always good though when I get a nice compliment and is humbling.. thank you again
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