Thread: What "would" Jesus do - not what you think.

As Hillary Clinton asked one day, let's discuss what Jesus would do about illegal aliens.

First, we have to read God's Word, which apparently Hillary AND Palosi have not read - or studied.

What "did" Jesus do?

Jesus spoke about "individuals" and about "individual responsibilities".

It was the religious powers and the government powers of Jesus' day, on His Father's Earth, who murdered Jesus.

Jesus NEVER advocated for, spoke about, justified, or encouraged governments to steal from ANYONE to give to ANY OTHER ONES.

Remember GOD WINS, a fact He foretold multitudes of 1,000's of years before each event He foretold.

Every living thing - yes, even illegal aliens, despite the fact that they demand that they are superior beings - will face God and answer for THEIR INDIVIDUAL actions, words, ill deeds, crimes against anyone and everyone, et al.

It would be wise if illegal aliens would consider what God did to a Pharoah in Egypt who enslaved His Hebrew people - Book of "Exodus" in God's Word.

Quite the contrary to popular illegal alien beliefs, America is not enslaving illegal aliens.

In fact, illegal aliens are enslaving Americans by thieving, murdering, terrorizing, threatening, and yes, enslaving Americans to "pay the illegal aliens" in the way of:

(Definition: FREE means they never pay it back or have earned the right to have what they receive.)

-- FREE jobs - stolen from "we the people".

-- FREE medical - hospitals used as general practitioners, which most close under the financial weight of illegal aliens, leaving America without hospitals for "we the people".

-- FREE welfare - given to each extended family member for life of each anchor baby born inside the USA.

-- FREE housing assistance - in the name of being a minority race they get what they demand, even though they're not Americans, and broke America's laws to live illegal alien lifestyles.

-- Loitering wherever they want, whenever they want - in the name of "looking for work" illegal aliens are giving ANOTHER FREE PASS to do what they want, when they want - but for Americans it's a ticket for loitering.

-- Me no speak English - a tactic used to push away any, and all, intruders (including law enforcement) who invade the space of illegal aliens, or even question who they are, where they're going, what they're doing (usually illegal activities), et al.

-- FREE education through university - a love fest that no American can get, unless they're part of the affluential elite, monetary rich elite, and/or governmental elite. Of course, all 3 elite catagories are not tethered to American citizens only, and many times includes foreigners who are inside the USA legally for educational purposes.

Oh the many ways that illegal aliens have held Americans hostage and enslaved in their own homeland.

Good post GR.

[Jesus NEVER advocated for, spoke about, justified, or encouraged governments to steal from ANYONE to give to ANY OTHER ONES.]

Nor did He ever say it was ok for individuals to steal from any other individual no matter what may be. Thou shalt not steal - one of the 10 Commandments.


[Remember GOD WINS, a fact He foretold multitudes of 1,000's of years before each event he foretold.]

It's always good to remember this!



"There's nothing left in the world to prove.
All that's worth doing is to love one another,
using whatever means are available to serve."

This is a good post. I think that God will judge each of us fairly; it will be a humbling experience for each of us, but remember that God operates on mercy, love, and forgiveness and has such a huge capacity for each.

Jesus wants us to treat each other well. It's hard to do, but we should strive to do that. I don't think he really cares about politics. He's interested in how we treat others. From my perspective, while I feel that I am doing the right thing by fighting illegal immigration, most illegal aliens aren't bad. What is bad is corrupting systems (like our govt, govt of Mexico, etc) led by corrupt people.

It's a delicate balancing act...fighting the corrupt systems but at the same time remembering that we are all brothers and sisters. It's difficult to do, but I guess that if we accept the challenge of trying to be good, then hopefully we will become more "Christ-like" in our actions and motives.

Ostrich

Great replies.

Whenever Jesus replied to the officials of the day - religious, government - and/or just plain folks he addressed what “theyâ€

GR, Have you been reading my mail? LOL! That's exactly what I have been saying - the government/corporate interests have made the working class US citizen a slave to the illegals. They get health care while needy citizens die! Ditto for food, housing, clothing, education, jobs and more.

Furthermore, as a mixed race parent of mixed race children I am so disheartened that most minorities have strong (often majority) factions that use prejudice as a means of creating and enforcing solidarity for their group. They do not think that there are underlying spiritual principles that make it wrong, especially those who reject "eurocentric" values of spirituality, including the very word.

What does this have to do with illegal immigration? Lots! The NDN's say it is the white man's burden and laugh. The legal Mexicans who agree with SB1070 have no safe place to voice their support. That is just here in AZ.

Originally Posted by sarum

GR, Have you been reading my mail? LOL! That's exactly what I have been saying - the government/corporate interests have made the working class US citizen a slave to the illegals. They get health care while needy citizens die! Ditto for food, housing, clothing, education, jobs and more.

That is why it erks me when Americans, and many in the USA media, say that the illegal aliens are current day slaves. NO they are not! It's patriotic Americans who are enslaved to the illegal aliens.

So much so that "we the people" can't acquire viable employment to pay for supporting the illegal aliens.

America's economy is hanging on by a thin hairline.

Want to bet where the illegal aliens will go when they've completed their destruction of the USA, if God allows that to happen without moving for America?

I want to see them try to invade China, Russia, and Iran. Which are great places to deport the illegal aliens to.

Originally Posted by sarum

Furthermore, as a mixed race parent of mixed race children I am so disheartened that most minorities have strong (often majority) factions that use prejudice as a means of creating and enforcing solidarity for their group. They do not think that there are underlying spiritual principles that make it wrong, especially those who reject "eurocentric" values of spirituality, including the very word.

What does this have to do with illegal immigration? Lots! The NDN's say it is the white man's burden and laugh. The legal Mexicans who agree with SB1070 have no safe place to voice their support. That is just here in AZ.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one who understands what illegal aliens are actually, and systematically, doing to the United States of America against "we the people's" will with enough of the USA's Govt sanctioning that they're so arrogant to believe they cannot be stopped.

Here's a fact illegal aliens need to realize - GOD wins.

No illegal aliens will win, except their right to pay for their tresspasses - just like every other human being of all races.

Only in the case of illegal aliens, they are ganging together to destroy a nation that God has blessed, and who is the only nation on earth that stands with God's chosen & their nation of Israel.

In the long run, it doesn't look good for the illegal aliens.

What illegal aliens don't understand, as they go to their churches, is that they are in no way acting like they have had a realization about God and His Word.

Heck, I can't speak to what they ask God, but their actions are speaking much louder than their words against America's patriotic citizens.

Oh, what is the NDN's?

Thanks again for your positive reply.

The NDN's (Indians) - despite the illegal problems on tribal lands they do not wish to be part of SB1070 - I don't know what their current position is - perhaps they think it will pass - but for the most part there are so many that will never forgive the Europeans ever ever ever - and it is a shame because it would be better for the entire state of AZ if all parties joined in unison against the illegal problem. The NDN's also have huge permanent unemployment - not related to the economy - and they also have problems with corruption in tribal government - but for the most part they are not going to air their dirty laundry with us. So last I looked they were laughing "It's the white mans' burden" and advising each other to just stay out of it. NDN's are basically being courted by the Mexica movement types as they now state that they represent the indigenous peoples of these continents and deny their European heritage. I have no idea how many NDN's fall for it but I do know that some tribal leaders have studied in years past (as in many years) with governments that are hostile to the United States possibly in preparation for this time.

I know that if I were in their shoes (Mexican, Chinese, whatever) I most likely would be an illegal here in the US as well. They believe that God is on their side because the border is an invisible arbitrary man-made line and they keep stating that people cannot be illegal. I understand that. I do also think that it is a basic human right that a person should be able to have a job that pays a living wage. However, citizens first. When we have full employment, then perhaps we can start letting some legal immigrants in to handle anything that we cannot. And those jobs need to cover medical, taxes and any other human costs associated with having human workers end of story - no more stealing from our social safety net to create incredible profits at our expense!

What is happening now is that all of our elected and appointed officials have betrayed our trust for decades by catering to corporate profit interests and trading the working class of the US for foreigners. They need to examine their own hearts and ask themselves why they scorn the working class so much. Why are they more comfortable with a thoroughly brown working class as opposed to the mixed race one they started with? Is that evidence of their true prejudice surfacing? A poor white person is so offensive to a rich white person that they would rather give the poor job to a brown person? Just what is going on here? Are they creating a new caste system with a comfortably brown working class? What about the working class blacks? Those who have achieved in the black community scorn them because they have not also achieved? Is this the well-to-do telling the working class goodbye - we consign you to non-citizen status because you are worthless because you have shown yourself incapable of becoming one of the richie rich - we working people are scorned and cast off because we have not become one of them and they feel that we all have had plenty of opportunity to do so by now?

This is where I also get into how the corporations have done this to us with the complicity of our government. Even if the illegals get shamnesty what makes them think that in a decade or so they won't be in the same shoes as us? They will get screwed by our corporations, our unions and our government just as we have. They are just being useful idiots and preventing the real battle for human beings in general regardless of origin and ethnicity. Corporations exist to serve humans. Governments exist to serve humans. This has been forgotten and we are descending into slavery once again.

They are taking jobs from us and our kids so we are losing our livelihoods to them and that cannot be right in the eyes of God or according to any Biblical principles. (You explained it well.)

"So much so that "we the people" can't acquire viable employment to pay for supporting the illegal aliens."

Amen to that. We are staring into an abyss and our dear leader just keeps giving $ away - to Gaza, to job creation in Mexico - and no accountability here for the census whistleblowers. Slavery in the US is on the increase due to this economy - people working for food isn't just for those on street corners with signs anymore - it is the most wrong time for illegals to demand their "rights." Despite it is obvious that they have had professional training and backing they keep screwing it up over and over and over and showing us everything that we don't want when considering new applicants to reside in our nation . . . and then we have Robert Rodriguez to solidify the threat aspect of it . . . . I'm going to shut up now.

Good morning!

Originally Posted by sarum

. . . but for the most part there are so many that will never forgive the Europeans ever ever ever - and it is a shame because it would be better for the entire state of AZ if all parties joined in unison against the illegal problem.

Well, that is very sad, because “mature enough to forgiveâ€