Republican senators discuss including DACA in wall negotiations

Republican senators discuss including DACA in wall negotiations
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Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., speaks to reporters outside the White House after meeting with President Trump on Dec. 30, 2018. Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP

Jan. 9, 2019, 2:23 PM PST
By Leigh Ann Caldwell

WASHINGTON — With Donald Trump working to keep his party unified in the government shutdown battle, some Senate Republicans have begun discussing expanding negotiations over the wall to include additional immigration issues, such as relief for DACA, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

The conversation, mostly involving Republicans, picked up steam on Wednesday as the stalemate over the government shutdown and the border wall showed no signs of easing. While the discussions might be aimed at solving a number of long-standing immigration reform issues, they also risk stirring a backlash from conservatives who believe DACA relief to be a form of amnesty, and on the left from those who don't want it used as a negotiating tool.

"There is some discussions about whether a bigger deal could be negotiated that would include money for border security," Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said after Trump met with Senate Republicans over lunch in the Capitol on Wednesday.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., has formed a working group of senators to discuss a broader immigration deal. The starting point would be the Bridge Act, which provides legal work permits for people eligible for DACA relief in exchange for $25 billion for the wall.

Graham hosted the first meeting in his office Wednesday afternoon. Attendees included those who have expressed unease over the shutdown, including Sens. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine, Rob Portman of Ohio and Lamar Alexander of Tennessee. Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who has stepped into a leading White House role on the shut down, is also in attendance.

No Democrats joined the meeting but Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., met with Graham privately.

Manchin said Graham presented some ideas to move the negotiations forward.

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It's so sad, they don't even realize there are no negotiations.

Trump has already won this, on December 19, 2018, when he tweeted, "military will build the wall."

He wouldn't have tweeted that unless that was what he was going to do. He's been working on this for months.

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Lindsay ain't right. Something very wrong with him.

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Originally Posted by Judy

It's so sad, they don't even realize there are no negotiations.

Trump has already won this, on December 19, 2018, when he tweeted, "military will build the wall."

He wouldn't have tweeted that unless that was what he was going to do. He's been working on this for months.

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You mean he shut the government down for no reason at all? You mean he shut the government down when he knew all along he was building the wall? Why would he do that?

I suspect the UNIPARTY all got together about a month ago and discussed how can we get this DACA thing through without upsetting too many. They decided to once again play pretend, to play fight and put on another kabuki show for the people. They decided to shut down the government and pretend to want a wall. Once again they decided the R's would pretend to want the wall and the D's would pretend to be against it. They would go all out, week end work sessions, a Fire-Side chat, complete with the rebuttal. Now, they think the people are bored, exhausted watching this kabuki show and are ready to move on. They aren't even starting the negotiation at full funding, oh no just 5 billion. What started out as a fight to stop an invasion, has turned into a finish giving the country away with nothing in return, and who is now leading the charge, why Lindesy and team. They're just sure they pulled another good one on the public, and are already planning their next move.

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You mean he shut the government down for no reason at all? You mean he shut the government down when he knew all along he was building the wall? Why would he do that?

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So House Republicans could prove to their constituents that Nancy Pelosi lied when she said Trump didn't even have the votes for the wall in the House from his own party during that on-camera negotiation at the White House when Trump said he would take the mantle for the shut down if he couldn't get the funding from Congress or the military. House Republicans were livid over that. They went to him, this whole thing was for House Republicans. They wanted a vote on the record proving they supported Trump and the Wall, that's why they did the Amendment for the $5.7 billion for the wall and $7.8 billion or whatever for the disaster relief that resulted in the shutdown when the Senate didn't have the votes to pass it. House Republicans promised they would have his back if he did it.

House Republicans may have his back, but they didn't have the votes in the Senate to secure the funding for the wall to end the shutdown and now they don't have the votes in the House or the Senate.

Why didn't Trump help the House, give it a few days and then end it on the Sunday before Christmas? I don't know. Probably because of negotiations going on elsewhere in the world and if he ended the shutdown in the midst of those, it might be misinterpreted as a cave or a fold, which would be the wrong message going out across the CORRUPT MEDIA worldwide.

It's the only reason I can think of.

Other than he decided to use it to somehow try to expose and destroy Chuck and Nancy.

But other than those two possibilities, I have no clue. It makes no sense at all. It's not a fight, it's a suicide mission going nowhere for nothing, while raising all these amnesty rats from the dead. Trump's smart, so he did it for a reason, but I can't figure it out.

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So House Republicans could prove to their constituents that Nancy Pelosi lied when she said Trump didn't even have the votes for the wall in the House from his own party during that on-camera negotiation at the White House when Trump said he would take the mantle for the shut down if he couldn't get the funding from Congress or the military. House Republicans were livid over that. They went to him, this whole thing was for House Republicans. They wanted a vote on the record proving they supported Trump and the Wall, that's why they did the Amendment for the $5.7 billion for the wall and $7.8 billion or whatever for the disaster relief that resulted in the shutdown when the Senate didn't have the votes to pass it. House Republicans promised they would have his back if he did it.

House Republicans may have his back, but they didn't have the votes in the Senate to secure the funding for the wall to end the shutdown and now they don't have the votes in the House or the Senate.

Why didn't Trump help the House, give it a few days and then end it on the Sunday before Christmas? I don't know. Probably because of negotiations going on elsewhere in the world and if he ended the shutdown in the midst of those, it might be misinterpreted as a cave or a fold, which would be the wrong message going out across the CORRUPT MEDIA worldwide.

It's the only reason I can think of.

Other than he decided to use it to somehow try to expose and destroy Chuck and Nancy.

But other than those two possibilities, I have no clue. It makes no sense at all. It's not a fight, it's a suicide mission going nowhere for nothing, while raising all these amnesty rats from the dead. Trump's smart, so he did it for a reason, but I can't figure it out.

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So he shut the government down ( not to stop an invasion, or do something worthwhile for the country) but to prove that Chuck and Nancy lied. Wow! what a reason!

We already knew they lied and most of us know Trump lies also.

So you are saying, this whole thing is for House Republicans. It is not about doing what is the best for the country, it just for the House R's, because they are livid, and they aren't livid because the country has been invaded, they're livid over the political show.

So you think he is using it to destroy Chuck and Nancy, WOW again what a reason to shut down the government, again, not what is best for the country, but a personal score to settle.

No, not a personal score to settle, a political strategic point to make. Big difference.

What did you think it was about? You didn't think a government shutdown was going to create votes from DemoQuacks for a Republican agenda did you? Why were you demanding a government shutdown? Why was anyone here demanding a government shutdown when DemoQuacks oppose the wall and Republicans don't have enough seats in the Senate to pass a bill to fund it without DemoQuack votes??!! And after January 3, Republicans don't have enough votes to pass a wall bill in either the House or the Senate.

I notice there's been some movement. I posted an article today where he's won Cher over, she's telling Nancy to cave, give him the money because "he stops at nothing" so "don't die on this hill."

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Originally Posted by Judy

It's so sad, they don't even realize there are no negotiations.

Trump has already won this, on December 19, 2018, when he tweeted, "military will build the wall."

He wouldn't have tweeted that unless that was what he was going to do. He's been working on this for months.

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Huh??? Trump tweets a lot of things he doesn't ever do. One example is his birthright citizenship executive order.

So, don't worry about it. You'll be lucky to get anything you think you want at this point. You can't lose the US House of Representatives to "honest" DemoQuacks and expect anything on illegal or excess legal immigration. Get real.

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So, don't worry about it. You'll be lucky to get anything you think you want at this point. You can't lose the US House of Representatives to "honest" DemoQuacks and expect anything on illegal or excess legal immigration. Get real.

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You can't use that excuse for this---Loosing the House has nothing to do with Trump signing an Executive Order.

Keep promises and do the right thing for the country and the R's won't loose the House, they keep on doing like they are now and importing D voters, the House, Senate, and WH is gone forever to the R's. It appears that is what the R's want, since they not only do not try to stop it, but they assist with the D's plan.

In my opinion, you and those like you are the D's plan. And it worked like a charm.

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In my opinion, you and those like you are the D's plan. And it worked like a charm.

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My opinion is just the opposite, you and those like you who are defending the R's when they are very openly doing the work of the D's, are a part of the D's plan. You defend and make excuses for everything they do instead of trying to hold them accountable.

I like what Republicans are doing except for this eternally stupid government shutdown. You aren't a Republican, that's why you don't get it. You don't care about the same things we care about. We care about a lot of things, our country was broken in many ways, upside down, inside out. You don't care about any of that. All you want to do is hate on Trump who has done more for our country than any President in my lifetime, and that's just in his first less than 2 years. The good he will do for our country and citizens by the end of his first full term will be beyond remarkable, there won't be enough accolades in our language to adequately describe it.

That's why I'm a happy camper Trump Supporter Republican and you're miserable.

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My opinion is just the opposite, you and those like you who are defending the R's when they are very openly doing the work of the D's, are a part of the D's plan. You defend and make excuses for everything they do instead of trying to hold them accountable.

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You're absolutely right on those that constantly defend and operate as apologist for the RINO Republicans that sit in the U.S. House and U.S. Senate. I've been a registered Republican since 1978 (my first mid-term election) and have never voted on anyone that was outside of the Republican party. However, I quit voting straight ticket around 20 years ago when I realized that I could not in good conscience help to elect those that would act in opposition on issues of importance to me.

Anyone that pulled the lever for or marked their voting card for a Republican that knowingly supports illegal alien amnesty, excessive foreign labor and/or open borders have no business complaining, crying, or whining about the state of things where immigration is concerned. For example, when my state Senator, Sen. Tillis, comes up for election, I will not vote for him. I also won't support or vote for any Democrat opposition he may have.

Darn anyone that begrudges me for not voting for an amnesty, excessive foreign labor, or open borders supporter just because he or she is a Republican. My conscience will be clear, however, somebody that supports any such person just because he has an "R" after his name is not in my view a good American or honest Republican.

In my opinion, where immigration is concerned RINO Republicans do more damage to the Republican party and our nation than the Democrats do! I say this because many of those RINO Republicans deceived their constituents to earn their vote and are traitors to the party in the U.S. House of Representatives and U.S. Senate! For example, remember when Sen. John McCain said, "build that damn wall" during his last Senate election. Well, it didn't take him very long to revert back and oppose the border wall. That's what you're dealing with when voting for known RINOs.

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Darn anyone that begrudges me for not voting for an amnesty, excessive foreign labor, or open borders supporter just because he or she is a Republican. My conscience will be clear, however, somebody that supports any such person just because he has an "R" after his name is not in my view a good American or honest Republican.

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Exactly! It is equal to, the victim of abuse telling their abuser "hit me again, I like it". They will never stop the abuse, as long as we reward them with our vote.

You're both miserable victims of your own self-important self-righteousness. You're free cheese people who think through a single vote, 32 million Republicans owe you something, when we owe you nothing, you owe us.

By the end of 2017, Trump had dropped illegal immigration to a 45 year low. In 2018, even with these crazy phenomena of the caravans and phony asylum claims, it's still at a 20 year plus low. There's been no amnesty. H1B's have been reduced by Trump through improved vetting and enforcement of the conditions ordered by this President. Trump has reduced refugee admission caps from 110,000 a year to 25,000 and increased vetting hasn't even allowed the full number in during the time frame. Trump's travel bans were approved by US Supreme Court to prevent entry into the US of people from high-risk terrorist countries. Over 100 miles of new big fence/wall has been constructed with another 115 miles to be constructed this year and all on a shoe-string budget. They've reached new agreements on USMCA, waiting for ratification by Congress and another great agreement with Mexico allowing asylum seekers to remain in Mexico.

There's other actions being taken with the Central American countries to deal with this problem that originates in their countries. Trump has also issued the Executive Order against accepting asylum claims from illegal border crossers and we'll see how that works out when it gets to the US Supreme Court. Trump has also written new regulations for green card holders that excludes public charges.

Trump has arrested, prosecuted and or deported thousands of MS-13 and other gang members. By supporting marijuana legalization in the states who have chosen this route, illegal marijuana coming across the borders has dropped to 12% of previous levels, an 88% reduction in this smuggling traffic.

Trump and Republicans have also lobbied for and supported the Human Trafficking Control Act, signed it yesterday before his meet-up with the Nancy and Chuck Show, that allocates $453 million dollars to end this type of illegal immigration into the United States.

Republicans owe you with "rewards"? Oh hell no, we don't owe you a damn thing. You and every other Americans who loves this country and their fellow citizens, owe US.

Trump Amnesty for 700,000 DACA and 300,000 TPS

Another dumber loser "deal" on top of an A to Z Loser government shutdown.

It's pitiful to watch. Absolutely pathetic. Nothing Trumpian about this mess, not a single thing. So out of character. Can't figure out why he would have agreed to such a disaster. I'm sure he's got a reason, but damn if if I can figure it out.

Maybe it's a message to Latino and Hispanic Americans, to let them know he cares about these border areas and knows what they're going through.

I noticed a poll where since the shutdown, Trump's approval among Hispanics has risen from 31% to 50% because they care about border security and feel DemoQuacks have let them down. Maybe that's the group he's trying to reach with this. I don't know.

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You're both miserable victims of your own self-important self-righteousness. You're free cheese people who think through a single vote, 32 million Republicans owe you something, when we owe you nothing, you owe us.

By the end of 2017, Trump had dropped illegal immigration to a 45 year low. In 2018, even with these crazy phenomena of the caravans and phony asylum claims, it's still at a 20 year plus low. There's been no amnesty. H1B's have been reduced by Trump through improved vetting and enforcement of the conditions ordered by this President. Trump has reduced refugee admission caps from 110,000 a year to 25,000 and increased vetting hasn't even allowed the full number in during the time frame. Trump's travel bans were approved by US Supreme Court to prevent entry into the US of people from high-risk terrorist countries. Over 100 miles of new big fence/wall has been constructed with another 115 miles to be constructed this year and all on a shoe-string budget. They've reached new agreements on USMCA, waiting for ratification by Congress and another great agreement with Mexico allowing asylum seekers to remain in Mexico.

There's other actions being taken with the Central American countries to deal with this problem that originates in their countries. Trump has also issued the Executive Order against accepting asylum claims from illegal border crossers and we'll see how that works out when it gets to the US Supreme Court. Trump has also written new regulations for green card holders that excludes public charges.

Trump has arrested, prosecuted and or deported thousands of MS-13 and other gang members. By supporting marijuana legalization in the states who have chosen this route, illegal marijuana coming across the borders has dropped to 12% of previous levels, an 88% reduction in this smuggling traffic.

Trump and Republicans have also lobbied for and supported the Human Trafficking Control Act, signed it yesterday before his meet-up with the Nancy and Chuck Show, that allocates $453 million dollars to end this type of illegal immigration into the United States.

Republicans owe you with "rewards"? Oh hell no, we don't owe you a damn thing. You and every other Americans who loves this country and their fellow citizens, owe US.

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Another untrue, hyperbole filled obfuscation attempt that does nothing to respond to the concerns of many registered Republicans, myself included! You're a miserable apologist (can see the misery in your responses and tone) that has to work full-time to defend Trump to many disgruntled supporters. I sort of pity you because of the constant spinning you've been forced into lately.

I don't have to do anything. I support this President because it's fun, exciting, rewarding and extremely beneficial to our country and citizens to do so.

:)

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