Thread: Fighting Gangs Spurs Controversy

I think all gang members should be deported whether they are legal immigrants or not. When you immigrate here legally it states right in the documents that you can be deported if you commit a felony. The only immigrants who get around that is the Cubans. The gang problem is huge. At North Miami High School the teachers have to remain in the middle of the cafeteria as rival Haitian gangs sit on each side. In the real world immigration advocates don't want you to know that most gangs started when illegal or legal immigrant kids got picked on by fellow classmates or kids in the neighborhood. These kids resorted to creating gangs rather than fight the kids on their own or ignore them. They often times used what they had seen or done in the country they came from. That is another factor the government needs to look into when it comes to the number of people they allow into this country from the various countries around the world. People need to learn the truth and force the government to do something.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/ ... 1234.story

Immigration, police pairing to fight gangs spurs controversy in South Florida
By Luis F. Perez | South Florida Sun-Sentinel
October 2, 2008
A study released Wednesday contends that a controversial pairing of local police with federal immigration officials has been a "key ingredient" in the national fight against gangs.

But local immigration advocates say the effort may do more harm than good.

The Center for Immigration Studies, which promotes more restrictive immigration policies, said federal and local law enforcement cooperation led to the arrest of more than 8,000 gang members during the 2005-07 study period. Miami ranked eighth in the number of arrests with 325. West Palm Beach had one; Fort Lauderdale, 11.

Still, there are many more native-born gang members, a center spokeswoman said. Palm Beach County investigators arrested made more than 2,000 gang members in 2007.

"They say they're going after gangs, but they target immigrants," said Bob Louis Jeune of Palm Beach County Coalition for Immigrants' Rights. That could lead immigrants to stop cooperating with local police, advocates say.

In the past year, the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office worked with Immigration and Customs Enforcement and others agencies to arrest members of the high-profile Top 6 and Sur-13 gangs. Broward County's gang task force goes out with ICE officials about once a month, its commander, Lt. Robert Cates, said.

"It's another tool in our tool belt," Palm Beach County Sheriff's spokeswoman Teri Barbera said.



Read the study


Go to SunSentinel.

com/gangs to read the study about immigrant gangs in its entirety.

Still, there are many more native-born gang members, a center spokeswoman said. Palm Beach County investigators arrested made more than 2,000 gang members in 2007.

Anchor babies? No problem, they can be deported with their illegal alien parents.

Unless, of course, they insist upon playing the "American citizen" game. In that case we can just lock them up in a nice safe prison for life.

Doesn't make one bit of damned difference to me, just so long as they're dealt with.

"They say they're going after gangs, but they target immigrants," said Bob Louis Jeune of Palm Beach County Coalition for Immigrants' Rights. That could lead immigrants to stop cooperating with local police, advocates say.


What level of brain damage does one have to suffer to even think like this?

Amendment 14th - close the loophole. So many loopholes to close, our elected official should have to live in the middle of these undocumented and non-American people to learn a lesson.

That could lead immigrants to stop cooperating with local police, advocates say.


That's just one of those 'it sounds soooooooo good, and doesn't make any sense', statements.

So we can't fight crime because somehow their neighbors, family or friends won't cooperate with the police. If the 'community' is aiding and abetting, then they get arrested as well.

Sometimes gangs are probably created out of a need for a collective defense, but some of these come here as gang members - like the gangs from South America.

Also, sometimes what they call gangs are nothing but plain old hoodlum criminals. Let's call them what they are - and I agree - put them out of the country or in prison.

Again, I think the gang problem, the crime, the illegal problem, the drug is being allowed to grow. Then when we can't stand it any longer, we will accept whatever measure the government wants to take.

I'm thinking the measures will be taken against citizens, though, in the form of less freedoms.

"They say they're going after gangs, but they target immigrants,"

How about the newest and most violent gangs are as a result of immigrants. Especially since that is the life in many 3rd world countries and that's all we seem to be importing. We have had a surge in prostitution and most of that is due to smugglers and illegal aliens. That's not just here.....that's world wide.

It's about as stupid as wanting to do something about the population explosion and going to a nursing home to discuss contraception and ingnoring the people in child bearing years because we don't want to "offend" the youth.

Again, I think the gang problem, the crime, the illegal problem, the drug is being allowed to grow. Then when we can't stand it any longer, we will accept whatever measure the government wants to take.

Create the problem and then come in and SAVE us......like this is something brand new and just happened over night.

That could lead immigrants to stop cooperating with local police, advocates say.

Guess what, they aren't cooperating with the Police now so what difference would it make?