I hear Rosie O'Donnel was promoting the "steal from the rich" theory on her show. She is getting a little too much power lately. Hopefully The View zombies won't listen.
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I hear Rosie O'Donnel was promoting the "steal from the rich" theory on her show. She is getting a little too much power lately. Hopefully The View zombies won't listen.
Rosie is a fat ignorant sow who is too stupid to undertand how stupid she actually is. I once worked with her for a few weeks. I think I had rather have worked with Ghengis Khan. Not a pleasant experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neese
One thing about that ole corn cob pipe. It stays pretty full thanks to the immigration and border security policies of of Gorege Bush and his conservative freinds.
Most republicans and conservatives talk the issue to death. That is when you can get them away from the "leave it to beaver" psychological programing the media and religions serve them.
Numbers USA-- been a member for a while.
You can count on me to constantly work to jail illegal ailens and there employers. That is if bush does not pardon them. But, "Take my marbles and go home" negotiation is going to give you one thing. Your marbles. Unless you have to sell them to risk forclosure from the Republican financial aristocracy.
As I have said before I dont like democrats and I dont like republicans. And, I find tail chasing mindless cynasim to be counterproductive to the movement. Let's take wins where we can get um.
Yeah, the Democrats have been real champions in stopping illegal immigration :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jrhino
As I recall, it was a Democrat (Ted Kennedy) whose immigration bill started this nonsense decades ago. It was a Democrat-controlled Congress that passed the first amnesty. It was a Democrat President (Clinton) who opened the floodgates for this current invasion. At the same time, it was a Republican President who signed that amnesty bill, it was a Republican Congress that was too afraid of losing the Hispanic vote to do anything about Clinton's revised immigration enforcement guidelines, and it is a Republican President (Bush) who is waving the illegals through the open door today.
I have said so many times that I'm getting tired of saying it that this is a bipartisan problem that has its villains on both sides. At the moment, the handful of heroes appear to be on the Conservative side, but they're not getting much done except for keeping any really bad immigration legislation or an amnesty from going through in the last session. Bush has betrayed his country and his party on this and other issues, but I resent in the extreme the attempts of Demopimps to rewrite history and pretend that this is a Republican or even a partisan issue. Both parties are selling the farm right out from under us, but all that some cheap individuals can conjure is to try to gain some political traction from the tragedy. That, to my way of thinking, is pathetic.
Oh, and I also resent the bullcrap comment above about the alleged inactivity of "Republicans and Conservatives" on this issue followed by a chest thumping about some nebulous claims of "work(ing) to jail illegal aliens and there (sic) employers." Sir, are you suggesting, as you seem to be, that Conservatives are not equally engaged in meaningful actions on this front? I take EXTREME umbrage at that grossly unsupportable claim, as I myself and a number of the Conservative members of this and other organizations are doing all we can here in the Dallas area to stem the tide, including counterprotests, pressing for local legislation and enforcement, making substantial contributions to groups combatting illegal immigration and to the campaigns of those politicians pledged to ameliorating this problem, and engaging in letter-writing and calling campaigns (in addition to all the little email writing campaigns and online petitions that may or may not be effective). Those are a few of the SPECIFIC things that I personally am doing. If it was not your intent to offend, then you have surely trudged on toes out of verbal clumsiness at the very least!
BTW - I note your standard disclaimer that you "dont like democrats and dont like republicans," but your rhetoric seems to be amazingly one-sided for someone claiming neutrality. At least I am quite up front about my own Conservatism, even though I cannot in good conscience support this Republican administration or a good many of our other Republican elected officials any more than I can support the Democrats. Note that I stated that I am a Conservative and not a Republican. I am registered as a Republican, but ONLY so that I may have a vote in the primaries and have some say in who we are voting for in November. I have never once hidden my disdain for this President or his disastrous Presidency, nor have I defended him in any wise except to point out to those who want to drag this issue down into some absurdly childish level of pretense that the illegal immigrant problem began and ended with this administration the folly and counterproductivity of such reductionism.
There, I've vented my objections to your comments. If I have in any way miscontrued your comments, then kindly disregard any portion of this rant that is misdirected. Otherwise, please consider the extreme offense that ripping into those of a given political orientation generates when the accusations are blanket statements directed at rank and file folks (rather than the self-appointed "leaders" of a party or movement) who are probably working every bit as hard if not harder than you are to solve this immigration problem and save our nation.
Jrhino,
I must defend Crocket here. Like he needs my help. :roll: Trust me, he's not a blind-sheep "ditto head" Republican but he is a Conservative.
That's Bush's line.Quote:
weapons of mass destruction
Biden, you nim-whit. If you don't lock the door and someone steals your car, then you are partly to blame and should take responsibility for your poor judgment and the thief should be punished.
Is Biden just deflecting the issue from himself? Really, if you put the blame on Mexico, then Congress is not accountable for not enforcing our laws and for allowing the business magnet to draw them in. Sure, Mexico is part of the problem and if we do the right thing, they will feel the brunt of the backlash. The citizens of Mexico will have to correct their system because they will not have America to ease their pain by being their social welfare system. Illegal aliens need to correct their homelands and not keep depending on America to make their lives easier. Nothing worth fighting for is free.
A 5th of Mexico's population has abandoned it for the easy life in America. How honorable are those people? The hypocrisy of them waving the Mexican flags in honor and loyalty of a country they abandoned. It's laughable. In my opinion, it might as well be a roll of toilet paper because it represents the disposable value of their homeland. To illegal aliens, Mexico just aint worth fighting for. I have no respect for illegal aliens because they are not made of the right stuff to be Americans.
Share the wealth principal of economics. That's what the earned income credit is all about. Balancing the difference between rich and poor. Robinhood. Tax the rich and give to the poor. Only seems fair if you are on the receiving end of a credit. Non-progressive taxation would be a flat tax.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crocket
Luxury Tax or Sin Tax (hidden tax attached to booze and cigarettes.) We pay so many forms of "hidden tax" on purchases. Gasoline and utilities... Not to mention the good old sales tax.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crocket
Then there are property taxes, school taxes and vehicle registration taxes. Ahhhhhhhhh! And people wonder where all their money goes. It's to taxes and insurance.
Bad thing is, most of us don't even know what our tax contribution is being spent on. We let our government decide. What a big mistake.
For example, they have been giving it to LULAC, NCLR and the ACLU.
Dixie
Grrrrrrr!Quote:
For example, they have been giving it to LULAC, NCLR and the ACLU.
Talk about getting the short end of the stick! How did you get that miserable assignment?Quote:
Rosie is a fat ignorant sow who is too stupid to undertand how stupid she actually is. I once worked with her for a few weeks. I think I had rather have worked with Ghengis Khan. Not a pleasant experience.
Hey Senator, you might be right in blaming Mexico, but how about blaming yourself as well. What have you done other than voting for illegal alien amnesties? When you blame Mexico, point another finger back at yourself.
Luck (or lack thereof) of the draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neese
Crocket said:
LOL!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Rosie is a fat ignorant sow who is too stupid to undertand how stupid she actually is.
Ahhhhh.......that is just too good Crocket. I cannot stand the woman, could not the day I saw here run her mouth at Tom Selleck about his support of the NRA. Of course this is the same woman who just thinks Tom Cruise is the greatest, so...there you go!
I have never watched that show the View, because I cannot stand Baba Wawa!!!!
As for the tax thing, Oregon does not nor has ever had a sales tax, and to be honest our state income tax is more than what we would be paying in sales tax. We lived in Washington for a while and paid about 1/4 in sales tax, versus the amount that would have been taken while paying income tax to the state of Oregon, and we make very little, plus, the county had a "temporary" income tax as well.
I think an across the board luxury tax is the best thing for America. We all know that people would not curb their spending, and that there would be plenty of revenue from it, as well, then like you said Crocket, it would be voluntary, no one would be forcing Americans to spend on luxury items.
Right now, as it stands, people in our income level (which is not very good), here in Oregon at least, get hit really hard with taxes we cannot afford to pay. If no income tax was ever taken out of my husband pay, our yearly income would go up about $4,000.00 more a year (including the state income tax here). Now to some that does mot sound like a whole lot, but truthfully for us it would be, since living paycheck to paycheck, this could be money we could actually put into savings, potentially to get into a better place to live. So no income tax? Yep, has my vote!