Thread: REPOST: 36M now, using 2004 CBP recon numbers

Between June and September, 2004, as part of the Arizona Border Control Initiative (ABC), the DHS Customs and Border Protection Bureau flew UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles, reconnaissance drones) along the Arizona-Mexican border near Nogales, AZ. In just three months, in just part of one state, three Hermes 450 drones spotted 853,000 illegal travelers crossing the border at other than Border Patrol checkpoints, according to Paul Olski, director of aviation joint planning and development in the Department of Homeland Security. DHS attributed only 1252 apprehensions to the Hermes and the Hunter UAVs. On Jan. 31, 2005, the program was "grounded for evaluation," probably in embarrassment about what it proved... that we have little enforcement of our immigration laws, and that the border is OUT OF CONTROL.

Originally Posted by Marine Inspector

The UAV's spotted 853,000 illegal entrants in the Tucson Sector, yet the Tucson Sector Border Patrol Agents only apprehended 154,800 of those illegal entrants.

Where did the other 698,200 illegal entrants go?

In a 4-month period [3 months, actually], 698,200 illegal aliens made it into the United States, through Arizona alone and no one knows who they are, where they are or why they are here.

How many made it through the other 8 to 9 months? If the numbers stay the same, almost 2 million [more] illegal aliens slipped through the Arizona / Mexico border.

How many made it through California, New Mexico and Texas? Now we're talking another million or so. This is not fantasy; this is reality. This is what the Federal Government does not want you to know.

Liberty Post

The Border Patrol counted 853,000 illegals crossing into the U.S. during the "season of death," the hottest time to be travelling in the Arizona desert. While the Border Patrol apprehended 154,800 of these, 698,200 disappeared into the U.S. without being caught.

853,000 is neither a guess nor an estimate. 853,000 is a hard number counted by DHS for three months in just one busy sector, and those three UAVs were not flying 24/7. 154,800 is a hard number apprehended by the Border Patrol in the Tucson Sector during those three months. 698,200 is a hard number of illegal aliens who slipped through. That is a fact.

I estimate that the 2004 total for the Tucson Sector is about four times that number. The fall season is a much easier traversal, encouraging a larger number than the summer. From Christmas to Easter is a time when Latino Catholics would prefer to be at home, which discourages travel. Spring is the peak time for illegal entry, because non-agricultural work is most plentiful for the next several months. So I estimate 2.8 million illegal aliens entered and escaped through the Tucson Sector in 2004. To say that the other eight sectors combined allowed only 2.8 million illegal entrants is not even reasonable, but in the absence of similar hard numbers for those sectors, let's call it that.

To sum up, I estimate that roughly 5.6 million illegal aliens came into the U.S. during 2004. Some stayed; some went home for Christmas. But the number increased dramatically in 2005, perhaps by 25%. In April, 2006, sightings in Texas were up 60% over October, 2005, probably in expectation of some form of amnesty. So I estimate about 11.2 million (160% of 125% of 5.6 million) illegal aliens will enter the U.S. across the Mexican border during 2006, double the 2004 number.

That certainly exposes as "disinformazion" the often-heard "12 million illegal aliens in the U.S.," which the mainstream media would like you to believe. Given the above calculations, it may be three times that, which would be supported both by the impact on the labor market and by the recent demonstrations (followed by riots in Los Angeles on the night of May 1, 2006).

Bear Stearns investment group estimated 20 million illegal aliens at the beginning of 2006. Minuteman Project founder Jim Gilchrist and co-author Dr. Jerome R. Corsi estimated 30 million illegal aliens in the U.S. in their book Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders, published in mid-2006. Using the hard numbers above, I estimate about 31.2 million illegal aliens were in the U.S. at the end of 2006. If we may assume that about 6.3 million have entered the country in the first nine months of 2007, and that about 1¼ million have left the country since the Kennedy-McCain-Graham amnesty failed, then over 36 million illegal aliens are in the U.S. as of October, 2007.

I expect more illegal aliens than usual will be going home for Christmas.

I think your estimate for the number of illegals in the USA is absolutely correct and these are just for the ones from latin America! I know the numbers from other overseas countries aren't as high but still if nothing is done to discourage or stop them the numbers will only keep building year after year-just think of how it will be here in ten more if nothing is done




Head 'em up,move 'em out Rawhide!

Now, just think about this. This invasion is continuing in the thousands, every single day of the year. Based on these numbers, the invasion is continuing in the millions every year.

We will melt into Mexico, be a northern extension and visa versa with these huge numbers spreading out all over our nation according to the plan of the NAU and open borders. This diabolical plan must be stopped.

I have calculated before, based on the low and the high estimate of daily lawbreaker entries, that my county could be duplicated in population within a little over a week to three weeks. Now just imagine how long would it take to fill a nation up all over again if the spigot is on high?

12 million, 20 million, 30 million probably right now, and millions more every year.

We need some Paul Reveres spreading the word far and wide and a few law makers and law enforcers to do their jobs.

Jeremiah 29:11

soooooooooooooooo I am guessing are much touted crack down is lookin kinda lame right about now.........

I think it is long past time to start arresting business owners and fining the hell out of them

I think it's long past time to start impeachment hearings

I think its long past time to call out the National guard

I think its long past time to end the catch and release and start hard labor camps

I think it's time to call for chertoff's resignation and arrest as an excessory to the crime

To just say it's out of control is a misnomer ... this is hitting the critical stage and has been for a while

Thank God Gov. Brad Henry has passed a law that is going to drive them out of here and takes effect on Nov. 1st and we don't have to deal with them anymore, maybe all states should pass the same law!

A big
WELCOME to ALIPAC, badbettyboop!

Originally Posted by badbettyboop

Thank God Gov. Brad Henry has passed a law that is going to drive them out of here and takes effect on Nov. 1st and we don't have to deal with them anymore, maybe all states should pass the same law!

And what law is that, badbettyboop?

Sorry, I got so excited over this bill being passed in my state I forgot to say it was Oklahoma! I could not find the # of the bill but basically he is driving all illegals out of Ok. beginning Nov. 1st. No more freebies for illegals here, no handouts, no help at all. Police who stop them and check their I. D. s can, if illegal, they will be detained and sent back! No food stamps, no help of any kind for them here anymore! I hate hearing them gabble in spanish and its all I can do to keep my mouth shut when I do hear them talk in Spanish! Business's will be fined for hiring them after the 1st and we have several who use them but that will also stop and they are said to be leaving now in droves. Hopefully some of the other states will follow suite and we can get them all out of OUR country! Thank you for the big welcome, I just had to add my two cents.................great site and I have been sitting back keeping up with everything form this site. I never called or faxed anyone before I found these sites, Thanks guys and gals...............keep on keepin on!!!

Originally Posted by badbettyboop

Sorry, I got so excited over this bill being passed in my state I forgot to say it was Oklahoma! I could not find the # of the bill but basically he is driving all illegals out of Ok. beginning Nov. 1st. No more freebies for illegals here, no handouts, no help at all. Police who stop them and check their I. D. s can, if illegal, they will be detained and sent back! No food stamps, no help of any kind for them here anymore!

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