Thread: Nation Of Immigrants? What To Say!

This is a site I send stories I find in my local papers concerning trouble with Refugees here.
They monitor fraud caused by Refugees. They too are screwing us and our taxpayer money's.
It is just sickening what WE AMERICANS have to put up with and FUND!!!
The people mix up immigrants with Refugees as other ignorant people do.

This is a good come back to one blogger that says to dribble, "This nation was built by immigrants!"
In which I say, not illegal immigrants!
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She sent me this update:
There is a new comment on the post "Massive Medicare fraud bust in 4 states yesterday: immigrants again!".
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Author: Paul
Comment:
"Iamevolved" seems to be blinkered by the weary cliche that we are a "nation of immigrants." Nope. I was born in Chicago and have no other country to return to. The equivalent applies to most citizens in the U.S..

Further, as the grandson (on one side) of immigrants (and many generations further back on the other side), I recognize that what has always made the U.S. an immigration magnet is the ordered liberty of the civil society created by the founding fathers, not the works of prior immigrants who also came to partake of that society.

After all, the country wasn't founded by immigrants but, instead, by settlers (equivalently, colonists) who built a civilization in what was, for them, a wilderness. The people who were already here when the colonists arrived had, themselves, come from elsewhere and their brutality to each other (tribe against tribe) easily matched any depredations committed by the wave of European settlers.

As NY Times journalist Richard Bernstein wrote about the American historians Muzzey and Beard:

"Muzzey, however, portrayed the Indians as primitives and savages. In his 1941 revision, he talked of the treatment of the Indians as 'a chapter of dishonor' for white men, but the Indians themselves, he said, 'nowhere advanced beyond the stage of barbarism ... They had some noble qualities, such as dignity, courage, and endurance, but at bottom they were a treacherous, cruel people who inflicted terrible tortures upon their captured enemies.'

"Even the great revisionist historian and liberal hero Charles Beard, writing in the prologue to his History of the American People, published in 1918, had to explain why he gave so little space to the North American Indians. 'They are interesting and picturesque, but they made no impression on the civilization of the United States,' he said, showing a tough-mindedness that would be excoriated now."

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Perhaps this will clarify it:

Illegals are not immigrants, they are Migrants.

An immigrant is an individual who comes into this country via all the legal channels, who does the necessary paper work and obtains the necessary papers and visas, in order to come into this country with the hope of becoming a citizen.

The Illegals, a high percentage of them, do not want to become citizens, but prefer to maintain their Mexican citizenship and have no loyalties to the United States. They move back and forth between the two countries and are therefore, Migrants.

Immigrants who come into this country and work here under a permit or a visa become part of the taxpayer force. Illegal Migrants do not. They send whatever money they acquire back to Mexico and are not part of the taxpayer force.

Immigrants are law-abiding. Illegal Migrants break the law first of all by coming into the country illegally.

We were a nation of Americans that started out as legal immigrants now we are fastly becoming a nation inundated with criminal law breaking illegals.

Even if the government forces Amnesty on us, Illegals don't have the heart and/or the integrity to ever be Americans. Because of what they have done and who they are, they will always be less-than.

"WE ARE A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS"

No we aren't. We are no longer a country of immigrants. The population of the United States is 85% citizens. We have not been a nation of immigrants for centuries. At that time the country was empty and the resources plentiful. Now we are crowded wall to wall and lucky to have enough water. Times change, the country has change. Everything in life is subject to change. "We are a nation of immigrants" is a quote from yesteryear. Those days are gone.

"WE ARE A NATION OF PATRIOTIC CITIZENS"

We are living in the present, not the past. Today we are a nation of patriots who were born in the United States.

Sure we are a nation of migration, but then so was Latin America and Mexico when the Spanish invaded. The illegals here know dang well they are violating laws and have premediated the crime by paying the coyotes to bring them across. Then they pay for a fake identity, or drop anchor babies for us to feed and clothe, educate, etc.
I seriously think every nation in the world has seen a migration of people in their history, but these days we have laws (unfortunately, not enforced). What we need is enforcement and weeding out those that crossed without permission since the 1986 amnesty.
Three Americans are incarcerated somewhere in Iran after accidentally crossing from Kurdish Iraq while hiking in the mountains. Iran has no qualms about protecting its borders, so what is our problem?

One of the main reasons for calling us a nation of immigrants, besides our original European colonial status is the massive wave of immigrants that came to our shores in the late 1800s leading into the 20th century. What seems to be forgotten though is that early in 1921 Congress imposed significant restrictions on immigration, and in 1924 reduced them even more and set maximum quotas by nationality. I do not know how long these stayed in effect, but I remember reading about the ones that were current when I was in grade school in the mid-1950's and there were quotas by nationality and they were not large numbers.

In 1921:

* Immigration from a specific nation was limited to three percent of that nation’s population living in the United States, as reported in the 1910 Federal Census.

* An overall maximum annual quota of 357,000 was imposed



A more thorough law was signed by President Coolidge in May 1924. It provided for the following:

* The quota for immigrants entering the U.S. was set at two percent of the total of any given nation's residents in the U.S. as reported in the 1890 census;

* after July 1, 1927, the two percent rule was to be replaced by an overall cap of 150,000 immigrants annually and quotas determined by "national origins" as revealed in the 1920 census.

A while back, here on ALIPAC, someone posted an article that bears repeating, in light of this subject coming up again:

Clovis Points (Solutreans France) 1 of 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1mPD3jbF5k

This wonderful set of well documented and scientifically proven set of facts, turns the ever politically correct idea that we are somehow invaders and immigrants in this nation, and somehow have something to apologize for. As well, if you have never seen this in the mainstream media, we all can guess why.

This argument that (only?) the US is a country of immigrants is dishonest. As someone pointed out in an earlier post, there are 34 "Latin" countries that are mostly European immigrants as well....

Mexico is 10% Euro white, 60% Mestizo (white and Indian)...only 30% native Amerindian...

South America (except Brazil) is mostly European white: Argentina 90%+

Perhaps the point to make is this: 500 years ago Europeans sailed to the New World to start new lives. Some went to North America, some to Central and South America. Why did the "Anglos" in NorthAmerica do so much better than the Mediterranean Europeans who sailed to Latin America? What has Latin America achieved in the same 500 years? what is the difference between North and South? climate or culture?

300 million mostly-anglo Americans built a national economy to $14Trillion
500 million Latinos built an aggregate economy of about $4Trillion over the same time period...

mdillon, so true, and it is about culture. To be honest, the American culture has been orderly, lawful and based on the principles of the Bible, contrary to what the liberal establishment would have you think, and to prove it, here is just a few examples from one of our founding fathers:

"It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible", George Washington .

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams, October 11, 1798

These are just some of the examples of how much the founding fathers felt that the nation and government we were establishing, was intertwined with our founding, Judeo-Christian beliefs and the Bible, and needed to be so in order to succeed.

In others words, according to the thoughts of many, including the quote from John Adams, an immoral people would establish an immoral nation(s), and it seems so in many places, the culture of counter Biblical establishments has given rise to many corrupted nations in other parts of the world.

Now, on those same thoughts, we are headed down this same path now, with the onslaught of anti-Christian liberalism/progressivism, which is pulling this nation away from what is moral, right and what has moved us forward and made us great.

Quote from DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA by Alexis de Tocqueville (1840)..

The greatness of America lies not in being more enlightened than any other nation, but rather in her ability to repair her faults...

He also said:

America will endure until the day Congress discoveres that it can bribe the public with the public's money.