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    Christians and Illegal Immigrants

    Christians and Illegal Immigrants


    By Alejandro Escobar
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    Fri, Jun. 23 2006 01:05 PM EST[-] Text [+] Subscribe TO News Letter Print E-Mail More on Topic Recently I have heard so many comments f rom people about how illegal immigrants break the law for being here with no papers. I have no problem with this stance because in fact these people are breaking the law. And they are basically placing their needs above the needs of other people and do not recognize a “higher power” in this respect. However, I do have a problem with a group of people who say that they do recognize a higher power, the God of the Bible. I have heard many Christians say: “Jesus would also be against illegal immigrants because they are law breakers.”


    It makes me mad to hear these kinds of comments when they come f rom “Christians.” Jesus’ message was to help the ones in need: “if you do it to one of the least of these, you do it unto me.” How can these people believe that our human law is as perfect as God’s law when even God Himself allowed His own law to be broken many times, but why? Because the God of the Bible is a God of justice AND a God of mercy. Countless times (according to the Bible) He put mercy before His own law. For that reason David was not killed when he and his man entered the temple and ate the holy bread. According with the Law, he should have been killed but God knew that David was driven by need and He forgave him. And Jesus himself is the perfect example of God favoring mercy over justice by sending His only Son to pay sin’s price for us. But there was a group of people in Jesus’ time similar to many Christians in our time. They were called the Pharisees and they believed that their man-made law was as perfect as God’s law. Jesus broke the law, according to them, by working on Saturday. Why did he dare to do that? Because he was healing somebody; yet still, the Pharisees said he was a sinner for breaking their law.

    It’s so amazing how things have not changed much since Jesus ascended to heaven. Christians in the U.S. are now using the same attitude with all those “heathens” who dare to work in the U.S. with no papers with only the meager excuse of sending money back to their families to “survive.” It’s undeniable that the United States (as a country) has the right to defend their borders, especially in times of war like now. And illegal infiltration into the country is a real security problem that must be solved very soon. But those who prove no threat to this country and have labored here in the U.S. for many years are a completely different story altogether.

    The real crime would be to criminalize these people who are only here to survive as well as those who dare to help them. I do not like Hilary Clinton but she had a point when she said that: “if the Sensenbrenner (HR 4437) proposal passes in the senate, Jesus himself would be considered a criminal for having mercy on somebody with no papers.” This law contradicts all the Godly principles on which the United States of America has been founded, and if Christians support it they are truly ignorant of the fundamental bases of Christianity, which is to love your neighbor as yourself.

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    Catholic dribble....BAPTIST DO NOT AGREE!!!
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    The real crime would be to criminalize these people who are only here to survive as well as those who dare to help them.

    According to this mentality, good intentions supercede law. If that were the case, we would have a terribly unjust system. Should I be able to get out of speeding tickets because I was late for work rather than plotting to cause harzardous traffic conditions? Should I be able to get away with not filing my taxes because I happen to be bad at math? Should I be able to steal food from grocery stores because I'm really hungry? Of course not! We have laws in place so we can maintain order and attempt to treat all people with equality and justice. Forgiving a certain group of criminals based on good intentions is unfair, unjust, and the foreground for an elitist society. It causes unwanted separation and breeds hatred.

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    I don't agree with this either because Christ may have "broken the laws" of the Pharisees, which by the way are the same people that put him to death.

    Also, Jesus was doing God's work, not the jobs Americans "just wont do".
    Jesus and his Disciples faced punishment, imprisonment and death, which was punishments imposed by the laws of the land. Must have been more of God's will at work.

    I'm also going to point out that the Israelites continued to disobey God's laws, the laws of Moses and God ran out of mercy and forgiveness and cast them out of Israel and spread them around the world. Even God punished his chosen people and David, the apple of his eye. Also, King Nebekanezer was the enforcer and God said, "he is doing my will".

    I might add that David's lawlessness and indiscretions lead to the birth of a son that was a monster, which raped his own sister and tried to kill his brother Solomon, wich eventually became heir to the thrown. Sins of the father?

    The author of God's laws, Moses even obeyed the laws of Egypt. Mary and Joseph obeyed the command to travel to Bethlehem for a Census. Wouldn't it have been easier to hide and have the baby at home? They were obeying the laws of the land. Jesus said, let Caesar have what is Caesar’s. I can go on and on and on... (Let Americans have what is America's)

    It's hypocritical to say God does not allow nations to enforce it's laws.

    Now onto this mercy and pity crap. Both of my parents grew up on a farms in rural Texas, in houses that did not have a toilet, running water or electricity. The illegals can go back to Mexico and in a generation have modernization for their ancestors, just like my family. American's don't have to give it to them.

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    You don't have to look much further than the 10 commandments. There has to be law to reside in peace. That one verse they choose to base this on is hardley the excuse to use for disobeying all the rest of the "christian values".
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