Thread: ALIPAC supports repeal of the 14th Amendment?

I complained to the following story writer that nobody has suggested REPEALING the 14th Amendment, only restoring or correcting it.

Here is his response:

"Thank you for reading the story and taking the time to write.

Id like to inform you that the Orlando Sentinel offers readers ways to express their opinions over this or any other stories we publish.

Sen. Graham is not the only person who has addressed this issue. There are advocacy groups such as Floridians for Immigration Enforcement and ALIPAC that have issued statements favoring a repeal --



I appreciate your feedback and will take it into consideration, along with the comments of other readers, as I continue to cover these issues.

Respectfully,


Vctor Manuel Ramos
Staff Writer, Orlando Sentinel
http://www.orlandosentinel.com
vramos@orlandosentinel.com"


I think he is making this up, but has ALIPAC or FLIMEN ever stated they support REPEAL of the 14th Amendment?

Originally Posted by Bowman

I complained to the following story writer that nobody has suggested REPEALING the 14th Amendment, only restoring or correcting it.

Here is his response:

"Thank you for reading the story and taking the time to write.

Id like to inform you that the Orlando Sentinel offers readers ways to express their opinions over this or any other stories we publish.

Sen. Graham is not the only person who has addressed this issue. There are advocacy groups such as Floridians for Immigration Enforcement and ALIPAC that have issued statements favoring a repeal --



I appreciate your feedback and will take it into consideration, along with the comments of other readers, as I continue to cover these issues.

Respectfully,


Vctor Manuel Ramos
Staff Writer, Orlando Sentinel
http://www.orlandosentinel.com
vramos@orlandosentinel.com"


I think he is making this up, but has ALIPAC or FLIMEN ever stated they support REPEAL of the 14th Amendment?

Actually, I'm not aware of or do not recall ALIPAC ever issuing a position statement on this issue have we?

I know that it is not included in our platform because the support levels for appealing or amending the 14th are strong, but not as strong as our other issues.

W

But I think a re inturp after strong argument against the provision needs to get to the supreme court.
The 14th was NEVER intended to include ALIENS

Its also time to revisit plyer vs Doe

They really got that one wrong

Clarification on the 14 amendment, and yes to revisiting Plyer vs. Doe. At the time, that 5-4 Supreme Court decision incorrectly gave many fewer millions of illegal alien children access to free education and other benefits. Now schools are overwhelmed and overcrowded. ESL costs, free breakfast and lunch, after school care, etc.

Psalm 23, it is written, "The Lord is my Shepherd"

I know that it is not included in our platform because the support levels for appealing or amending the 14th are strong, but not as strong as our other issues.

Support ultimately comes from a coherent and defensible strategy. Alipac can't seriously expect to achieve any lasting victory in regards to illegal immigration when larger and larger portions of the voter base are the children of illegal immigration who, under the fourteenth amendment, are able to steer American policy through legal channels, not only through the intimidation of crowds.

The fourteenth amendment and its continued existence will determine whether any efforts here achieves lasting success or not. If it continues, we're postponing the inevitable...that is, mass amnesty. Which is what we're trying to avoid, correct?

If current support levels were prerequisite to a movement's ultimate success, we would still believe the sun revolves around the earth.

The anchor babies have power, and the open borders and illegal alien amnesty supporters know this. You have millions of children, many now adults, many voting, wanting amnesty, wanting families to have open access to this nation, and voting for Democrats. We must stop birthright citizenship, for the children of illegal aliens will not vote for secure borders, or for enforcement against illegal immigration. The invasion will continue without closing the loopholes.

Psalm 23, it is written, "The Lord is my Shepherd"

The reason we have not made the 14th Amendment a priority at ALIPAC is because polling data shows that somewhere between 55-60% of Americans would like to see birthright citizenship end via either Constitutional changes or Congress changing the legal interpretation.

While 55-60% sounds strong, the other main items that are formally part of ALIPAC's platform (cracking down on employers, empowering local police to enforce immigration law, ending all welfare benefits for illegals, etc...) Each of these items have in excess of 80% support!

We have numerous scientific and certified polls showing over 80% support for the items in our platform and each item IS ALREADY A FEDERAL LAW THAT SIMPLY NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED.

The reason we have not tried to tackle Birthright citizenship is that if we can't get existing Federal laws supported by over 80% of Americans enforced, why would we tackle something that might require changing the constitution and would drop our support levels 20%?

If you ask me, that traitor Senator Lindsay Graham probably knows this as well as we do and has throw this out to try and pull attention away from our more popular election issues like opposing HIS AMNESTY PLANS and SUPPORTING AZ's SB 1070.

We could revisit changing the ALIPAC Platform, but I really do not want to have that debate right now for two reasons.

1. We are less than 80 days away from midterm elections, each hour and day spent debating a platform change would be hours and days away from focusing our the campaigns that need our help.

2. By reconsidering our position on birthright citizenship, we would be responding to open borders sellout Lindsay Graham and spending our time reacting to his game. We don't his game. He is going to play ours.

Campaigns and causes that spend much of their time reacting to their opponents are playing defense and are being manipulated by their opponents.

W

W I think the point Bowman is making is that the response he got makes false claims about Alipac. It just may deserve a cease and desist statement from us.

Originally Posted by Ratbstard

W I think the point Bowman is making is that the response he got makes false claims about Alipac. It just may deserve a cease and desist statement from us.

I would have to agree, the writer is making it up!!! He claims: "There are advocacy groups such as Floridians for Immigration Enforcement and ALIPAC that have issued statements favoring a repeal (of the 14th Amendment). Actually it seems ALIPAC has issued no statement concerning the 14th Amendment, much less saying it should be REPEALED!!!

The issue concerning the 14th is gaining steam as more and more people begin to learn and understand. JMO

This is a great issue to push out front and keep pushing. The more debate the better. What happens when more and more people realize that they have had the wool pulled over their eyes?