Thread: A Way Out for Illegal Immigration

A Way Out for Illegal Immigration
Norman Roberts
April 11, 2009
What is it about illegal aliens? It´s a subject that brings out a mean streak in people. Some of the kindest, gentlest, most generous people I know become absolute Scrooges when it comes to illegal immigrants. They would deny them access to work, housing or health care. They would close our schools to their children. They would deport them, millions of them, without a thought to the humanitarian catastrophe that would produce. And a catastrophe it would be. Mass deportations always are. Ask a Cherokee about the Trail of Tears. Ask Greek or a Turk about the mutual expulsions of the 1920s. Ask a Bosnian, a Serb, a Croat, or an Albanian about ethnic cleansing.

We aren´t going to deport these people, not in large numbers, and it is in no one´s best interest to keep them among us as an oppressed sub-culture. We have to find a better way. When someone has an infectious disease we have to give them treatment lest it spread, no matter who they are. We are all better off when everyone has a decent place to live and a job that pays a living wage, one that will support a family, and that means all of us. We recognized long ago that we need to educate our children, all of them, and make no mistake, these are our children. Many of them were born here and regardless of the status of their parents they enjoy constitutional rights of citizenship. Citizens or not we are poorly served if they are not in school.

One argument is that illegal immigrants are free loaders. They consume public services but don´t pay taxes. It isn´t true. If they buy anything they pay sales taxes. If they live in a rented room somebody is paying real estate taxes. If they work using a phony social security number they pay payroll taxes without much hope of future benefit and it is we who are the freeloaders. If their employers are at all honest they also pay income taxes and when they overpay they can´t file for refunds they are entitled to under the law. Since they have violated one law they are denied protection under another.



Church teaching on this is clear. As Christians we have a special responsibility toward the needy and vulnerable. We get that message over and over again and we respond in many ways. We support emergency aid programs with enthusiasm, especially when they are temporary and designed to get people back to work. We give generously to all sorts of charities. We applaud when our government spends billions responding to natural disasters, even when they are halfway around the world. But many of us draw a line when those in need are here illegally. It isn´t a very Christian attitude. Nowhere in scripture does it suggest only the law abiding are entitled to our compassion.

There is one thing we could do and the church tells us we should do but doesn´t get much attention. We could address the reasons so many people endure such hardships to emigrate in the first place. We could do something about the economic stress prevalent across our southern border, and it wouldn´t have to cost us anything. We could further open our trade policies. The Mexican economy has been growing at a remarkable rate for most of the past century, 5% or more annually for much of that period, and income per capita is now the highest in Latin America. It´s still low in comparison to ours, underemployment and income distribution are still serious issues, and that´s what´s driving the emigration. A few more years of 5% growth could work wonders though. NAFTA was a big boost for the US, Mexico, and Canada. Expanding it could do more. We could suggest that to our congressmen and women. Renegotiating NAFTA wouldn´t be such a bad idea if it means more trade. New restrictions could be a disaster all around.

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Ask a Cherokee about the Trail of Tears. Ask Greek or a Turk about the mutual expulsions of the 1920s. Ask a Bosnian, a Serb, a Croat, or an Albanian about ethnic cleansing.

We're not talking about people being persecuted in their own lands. We're talking about sending illegal invaders back home.

The point he gets to in the last paragraph is good

This is absolute clap-trap from a holier-than-thou Catholic. What about the Ten Commandments, dude?

You shall not kill.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.
You shall not covet your neighbour’s house; you shall not covet your neighbour’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbour.

You shall not kill while driving drunk without a license or insurance.
You shall not steal our social services, nor anything else you can lay hands on, including our identities.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor by continually screaming racism and other epithets.
You shall not covet your neighbor's house, job, money, car nor his sovereign land and successful society.
Seems like these "poor illegals" have proven time and again they have broken quite a few of the Commandments.

Let's start with the basics:

The Catholic Church hierarchy wants amnesty for the same reason that for decades it merely rotated degenerate priests to different parishes. Degenerate priests were rotated because vocations were declining, amnesty is proposed because that will increase Church revenues.

We should help others - in their own countries. All this blather about Christian charity ignores the fact that illegals have not only taken entry level jobs from Americans, they have also depressed wages for those same Americans. Real wages in some of the construction trades are lower now than were even five years ago. Illegal aliens working and housekeepers and nannies and cooks depress wages for service workers.

Charity begins at home. Comprehensive Immigration Reform must begin with protecting American workers and the quality of American life.

This is about the law. They break the law by comming here Illegally. Our government, for some ungodly reason, has decided not to enforce these laws and if they did we wouldn't be here. All I ask is that they come to this country the right way.

This person writes under the apprehension that these people want responsibility and to just work and raise a family and that is what they want!

Problem with that is they totally overlook the fact that most of the illegals here create more violent and non violent crimes than American citizens, that is what they always miss!

We recognized long ago that we need to educate our children, all of them, and make no mistake, these are our children.

THIER children are NOT my children. NO one but me takes care of them. We do not accept hand outs. I have my own kids to take care of - I don't need thiers also. I don't consider children of IA's true citizens of the USA.

Sounds like the author has been chatting w/John McStain.

One argument is that illegal immigrants are free loaders. They consume public services but don´t pay taxes. It isn´t true. If they buy anything they pay sales taxes. So do tourists and anyone passing through. If they live in a rented room somebody is paying real estate taxes. People staying hotels pay taxes too. If they work using a phony social security number they pay payroll taxes without much hope of future benefit and it is we who are the freeloaders. They file taxes to get the EIC for each of their anchors, they don't make enough to owe the government, but they sure collect! If their employers are at all honest they also pay income taxes and when they overpay they can´t file for refunds they are entitled to under the law. Since they have violated one law they are denied protection under another.

They ARE freeloaders, there is no doubt about it.

Show me ONE illegal alien who does not use the ER as a free clinic, pays the full tax to educate his kids, does not apply for welfare, housing vouchers, CHIP, WIC and food stamps for his anchors. Show me ONE illegal alien who does not use stolen/fake ID, multiple aliases, pays for insurance (medical and auto) and does not take loans out against his stolen ID. Show me ONE illegal alien who supports his family on what he earns without taking any handouts and I will show you an honest illegal alien. [/quote]

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:15 am Post subject: A Way Out for Illegal Immigration
A Way Out for Illegal Immigration
Norman Roberts

What is it about illegal aliens?

The answer is they broke our laws and thats why they are illegal,

We have citizens that have to eat and get health care but cant because of Illegals soaking the system that is there for legal citizens , Go light a candle for the invaders