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    What's fair when it comes to illegal immigrants?

    4/29/2009 10:00:00 PM
    What's fair when it comes to illegal immigrants?
    Arlene Jones



    This Friday, May 1, will again bring about marches from people who are in this country illegally and their supporters. Illegal immigration is a very contentious subject. This year it will be even more so as millions of Americans have become unemployed or are facing the "chopping block."

    I always have been insulted when individuals who are pro-illegal immigrants try to logic out why one group of people can break one set of laws while the rest of us should be subject to the exact same laws. For example, the City of Chicago has proclaimed itself to be a sanctuary city. We have individuals who get upset if the police do stings and arrest and take the cars of people who are in this country illegally and driving without a license. Yet we recently had an alderman proclaim that the city should take the cars of American citizens who leave traffic court and drive after being told to not do so. Where is the fairness?

    I recently spent several months working in a Chicago public school where the student population was half black and half Hispanic. As I walked down the hallways, the classrooms for grades kindergarten through third looked like something out of a movie prior to Brown vs. Board of Education. The classrooms for first graders, for example, had all the black children in one room while all the Hispanic children were in a separate classroom.

    Why? Because six years prior, two children were born in the same city and same hospital. The black child went home where he/she learned English even if it was the Ebonics' version. The other child went home with parents who didn't speak English and may be in this country illegally. That child learned Spanish as their first language.

    When the time came to go to school, the Hispanic parents were allowed to choose a bilingual education program, even if the child is functional in English.

    Wait a second. If the Hispanic children are getting bilingual education, shouldn't the black kids be getting the same opportunity to become bilingual by learning Spanish at the same time the Hispanic children are learning English? Where is the fairness?

    Recently, a man testified before congress regarding his daughter who was killed while sitting in her car at a red light. Her car was hit by a drunk driver, who was an illegal immigrant. The father referred to the people listed on the ICE database of illegal immigrants with criminal backgrounds as "banditos." The father was subsequently chastised by Congressman Luis Gutierrez for using the term "banditos." Interestingly enough, it was not because the congressman could point to the term as being derogatory, but because he has chosen to pursue the interest of illegal immigrants over those of U.S. citizens. He was more concerned with how the illegal immigrants were being portrayed than he was about a U.S. citizen being killed by someone who shouldn't have been in the country to begin with. Where is the fairness?

    I have watched while a friend of mine lost his restaurant business. Every day he was visited by the city and issued fines for violations that had nothing to do with his food handling. Fines for signage violation. Fines because his video game didn't have a current license even though it was unplugged and facing backwards so that no one could use it. Yet, every day on the streets of Austin, I am seeing unlicensed and unsanitary corn carts sitting on corners vending food. There is no running water to wash hands and, even worse, where do they use the bathroom when they stand on a corner for hours on end?

    I saw on North Avenue, by the soon-to-be opened new Menards, a man cooking tacos on the city's sidewalk. I am sure we have tons of Americans who could also put a BBQ pit on a cart and stand on a corner and sell food. Yet it doesn't happen because the city enforces food-handling laws against citizens but not against others. Where is the fairness?

    As this year's marches occur, I am anxious to see how illegal immigration will be portrayed. As Americans have lost jobs, houses and their version of the American dream, will we as a country still be gullible enough to believe that there are jobs that we won't do?


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    This whole thing has gone beyond any shred of reasonably sanity. Probably due to the rampant need for political correctness.
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    Arlene Jones should read William Chambliss's study of corruption in Seattle and Fredo Arias King's study of American Congress member's view of immigration.


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    maybe

    Maybe the way to get rid of the taco selling illegals is to open a barbecue stand right next to theirs. Then when the health department comes to shut down our barbecue stand we can say, "If you want to arrest me, then arrest the taco vendor too."

    I heard Obama's speech where he said, "We will not close the borders."

    We are in for one hell of a fight people.

    We need massive organization, massive phone calls, MASSIVE e-mails and MASSIVE public protests.

    We need organized efforts to hit illegals on every aspect of their lives here. We need public outcries against:

    Day laborer sites.
    Free medical care for illegals
    Renting to illegals.
    Illegal alien street vendors.
    Public services for illegals.
    you know the rest of the list.

    How can we organize against a multi-faceted beast?

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    The American people are discriminated against by our Gov't.

    It is obvious that our Government favors illegals over the American people. The question that is not so obvious is why has our government betrayed us? The concept and action of Fairness ( as it pertains to illegals) along with our precious Constitution is no longer prized in America.
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    Read this for answers

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    Curious?

    About the Pandemic.........

    Isn't it interesting that the American people are not advised to go to Mexico because of the Pandemic yet illegals and others are allowed to come into our country and spread the disease?

    Anyone on the posts think that our government has something to do with this Pandemic ? Obama was in Mexico prior to us hearing about the Pandemic, how could Obama go to Mexico and see all the people with face masks and not know about this health crisis? I think that our government needs to find a good reason to declare "Martial Law" so they can put Amnesty into effect, and the American people won't be able to revolt. We won't be able to revolt if the government puts into effect "The Model State Emergency Powers Act" because under this act, the government can shut down all of our communications and literally take over every phase of our lives. The "Act" might just be what the "politcal doctor" ordered. I am speculating.

    Anyone else have any thoughts on this matter?
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    The Politics of Illegal Immigration is quite involved.

    Richard, thank you for the information. I really appreciate it. I have to admit I quickly reviewed the articles but want to take more time to carefully consider, read and study them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard
    ELE

    Read this for answers

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    Richard,

    I just read this report and it makes me more in favor of term limits for our Congress,but how do we get them to pass such a Bill.....I don't think we can.

    It seems an uprising is in our future since our government will not listen to "We The People" no matter how much we voice our disapproval peacefully.
    "A Government big enough to give you everything you want,is strong enough to take everything you have"* Thomas Jefferson

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