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    AZ: Sheriff Dever calls for border help

    Sheriff Dever calls for border help

    Published: Wednesday, February 2, 2011 11:01 AM CST

    Two sheriffs lead push for more soldiers on boundary

    By Lauren Gambino/Cronkite News Service

    PHOENIX - Two sheriffs gave a grim assessment of security along the U.S.-Mexico border last Thursday, telling lawmakers they need the U.S. government to send more soldiers.

    "Get the military on the border, and get them there now," Cochise County Sheriff Larry A. Dever said in a Jan, 24 presentation to the Senate Border Security, Federalism and State Sovereignty Committee.

    Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu said that a "visible human fence" made up of armed military men and women is the answer to reducing crime and cutting down the flow of illegal immigrants.

    "The military should be there as a visible deterrent," Babeu said. "The problem has not gone away. Do not be lulled into a false sense of security."

    The sheriffs both proposed a three-pronged approach to border security: increase the military presence, improve existing infrastructure such as the border fence and bolster enforcement.

    "As long as we have a porous border, no other socioeconomic solution will have value," Cochise County's sheriff said.

    During Dever's presentation, Sen. Steve Gallardo, D-Phoenix, and Sen. Frank Antenori, R-Vail, broke into a heated exchange about border enforcement and SB 1070. Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, the committee's chairwoman, banged her gavel to stop them.

    Last year, President Barack Obama deployed 1,200 troops to the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Babeu said the Border Patrol's Yuma Sector has seen a significant decline in crime and illegal border crossings since it focused on the three areas cited by the sheriffs. He also pointed to significant reductions in crime and apprehension rates along the San Diego Border Patrol sector after construction of a double-layered border fence.

    The U.S. Department of Homeland Security recently canceled funding for a controversial "virtual fence," a billion-dollar project led by Boeing Corp. to put a line of sensors along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Instead, DHS plans to use proven technologies such as mobile surveillance systems, unmanned aircraft and thermal-imaging devices.

    Allen said in an interview that she would like to see the Tucson Sector imitate successful border security initiatives employed in the Border Patrol's California and Texas sectors.

    "We need a fence built, we need a surveillance and we need a lot more men on the ground," Allen said. "And if we can do those things, I believe that we will be able to get a handle on this like these other sectors."

    Sen. Robert Meza, D-Phoenix, suggested a holistic approach to security by addressing the economic and social crises in Mexico.

    "This is a systemic problem," Meza said. "The root of the problems lie in Mexico, so why haven't the U.S. senators tackled the problems in Mexico?"

    By the numbers

    Apprehensions by Southwest Border Patrol sectors for FY 2009:


    •San Diego Sector: 118,721


    •El Centro Sector: 33,521


    •Yuma Sector: 6,951


    •Tucson Sector: 241,673


    •El Paso Sector: 14,999


    •Marfa Sector: 6,360


    •Del Rio Sector:17,082


    •Laredo Sector: 40,569


    •Rio Grande Valley Sector: 60,989


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    It's pathetic that Obama doesn't give a rat's posterior about the security and safety of the American people by saying we don't need any border security but erects more fences and barriers around the Whitehouse. Go figure.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by retiredairforce
    It's pathetic that Obama doesn't give a rat's posterior about the security and safety of the American people by saying we don't need any border security but erects more fences and barriers around the Whitehouse. Go figure.......
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    PHOENIX - Two sheriffs gave a grim assessment of security along the U.S.-Mexico border last Thursday, telling lawmakers they need the U.S. government to send more soldiers.
    It is very easy to set back and do nothing to assist Law Enforcement Officers in Arizona that have pleaded for help for over a year when we are not faced with the deadly crimes that will enter Arizona from across the border. What the Sheriff are dealing with presently are not a jocking matter, the man is telling us to do something while we have a chance to keep the most dangerous criminals in this world out of America. The Sheriff knows what he is talking about because he has been alerted of the crimes that is close to spreading all over the U.S...We must approach this issue in a serious matter and do what ever possible to save lives in Arizona as well as abroad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pisces_2010
    PHOENIX - Two sheriffs gave a grim assessment of security along the U.S.-Mexico border last Thursday, telling lawmakers they need the U.S. government to send more soldiers.
    It is very easy to set back and do nothing to assist Law Enforcement Officers in Arizona that have pleaded for help for over a year when we are not faced with the deadly crimes that will enter Arizona from across the border. What the Sheriff are dealing with presently are not a jocking matter, the man is telling us to do something while we have a chance to keep the most dangerous criminals in this world out of America. The Sheriff knows what he is talking about because he has been alerted of the crimes that is close to spreading all over the U.S...We must approach this issue in a serious matter and do what ever possible to save lives in Arizona as well as abroad.
    And to think that he/she nappy is still touting the bs "THE BORDER IS AS SAFE AS IT EVER WAS" I guess they think we are some kind of fools who will buy anything that they are saying. well, its not working you know, we deserve a lot more from our government than we are getting. we deserve the right to errect a border fence just as Mexico does in order to keep illegals from south/central america out of Mexico but, you see, Mexico does not want the U.S. to errect that fencing because they want their pessants to keep coming here for another country to take care of them. AND, FOR SOME DUMB REASON, OUR DUMBED DOWN GOVERNMENT IS JUST ALLOWING MEXICO TO HAVE ITS WAY WITH OUR COUNTRY AND OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. FOLKS, WE NEED TO GET A LOT MORE AMERICAN AND LEGAL CITIZENS ON BOARD TO HELP FIGHT THIS FIGHT. AND TO DEMAND THAT THE PROMISED FENCE BE BUILT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pisces_2010
    PHOENIX - Two sheriffs gave a grim assessment of security along the U.S.-Mexico border last Thursday, telling lawmakers they need the U.S. government to send more soldiers.
    It is very easy to set back and do nothing to assist Law Enforcement Officers in Arizona that have pleaded for help for over a year when we are not faced with the deadly crimes that will enter Arizona from across the border. What the Sheriff are dealing with presently are not a jocking matter, the man is telling us to do something while we have a chance to keep the most dangerous criminals in this world out of America. The Sheriff knows what he is talking about because he has been alerted of the crimes that is close to spreading all over the U.S...We must approach this issue in a serious matter and do what ever possible to save lives in Arizona as well as abroad.
    And to think that he/she nappy is still touting the bs "THE BORDER IS AS SAFE AS IT EVER WAS" I guess they think we are some kind of fools who will buy anything that they are saying. well, its not working you know, we deserve a lot more from our government than we are getting. we deserve the right to errect a border fence just as Mexico does in order to keep illegals from south/central america out of Mexico but, you see, Mexico does not want the U.S. to errect that fencing because they want their pessants to keep coming here for another country to take care of them. AND, FOR SOME DUMB REASON, OUR DUMBED DOWN GOVERNMENT IS JUST ALLOWING MEXICO TO HAVE ITS WAY WITH OUR COUNTRY AND OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. FOLKS, WE NEED TO GET A LOT MORE AMERICAN AND LEGAL CITIZENS ON BOARD TO HELP FIGHT THIS FIGHT. AND TO DEMAND THAT THE PROMISED FENCE BE BUILT

    FOLKS, WE NEED TO GET A LOT MORE AMERICAN AND LEGAL CITIZENS ON BOARD TO HELP FIGHT THIS FIGHT. AND TO DEMAND THAT THE PROMISED FENCE BE BUILT.
    I agree 100%
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    This is a systemic problem," Meza said. "The root of the problems lie in Mexico, so why haven't the U.S. senators tackled the problems in Mexico?"

    What kind of a statement is this........Are U.S. senators supposed to fix Mexicos problems

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    I feel meza's 100% right the problem is in mexico and the real question is why hasn't messico stepped up to the plate to resolve their problems. They seem pretty good at pointing out ours. Why is no one in our goverment pointing their crooked finger at ol'messico why are we sitting here debating this issiue of ia's and if we should just make them citizens of our country or not. The real debate should be how do we force a country to be responsible for their people! It amazing if someone from the US does something wrong ,our goverment is held accountable. It seems to be the norm for the US goverment to deal justice to other country's! Why not with messico why not tell caldron to go suck one he can't even clean his own house. I'm tired of all the lip service most of our goverment seems to be giving to this situation. TALK IS CHEAP ACTIONS ARE ALWAYS LOUDER THAN WORDS. Sorry to get all clice on this.

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    As far as the Mexican government is concerned its not a problem. The military and government all get paid by the cartels and its how they keep their power and wealth by being the problem. They have no interest in change. The only change would be if the people rise up or if Mexico goes to war with someone they can't beat.

    Basically Mexico IS our problem. But the way to starve it is militarizing the border. Cut off the drug supply to the US and they starve financially.

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