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    “Operation White Gun” Surfaces – Phoenix Again

    Posted on January 13, 2012 by Stranger

    With a tip of the Stetson to The Gun Wire for the link, the LA Times reports on another ATF gunwalking “Operation” out of the Phoenix office. This one was called “Operation White Gun.


    While the BATmen are defending this “operation,” which sounds as if BATwoman Hope MacAllister was providing weapons for a Cartel wedding, Congressman Issa and Senator Grassley apparently think the “Operation” provided many more guns to Mexican cartels. The ATF essentially says “we caught three bad guys.” What is the trade off? How many guns went to Mexico?

    While this is just one more “operation,” to go with Fast and Furious, Castaway, Grenadewalker, and the rest, I am consistently astonished at the reduction in the number of guns walked being reported. First, it was 2,000, then 2,500, and eventually 3,500. Then it has been 2,000 for several months. Now it is 1,700. At this rate by election day Sinaloa and the Zetas will have been giving guns to the ATF.

    Based on SEDENA documents the total number of guns sourced in the US and recovered in Mexico is above 14,000. And that total is not getting smaller. What is happening is the number of guns without “registration” numbers, serial numbers, is getting larger. That points to direct imports from South American and Asian arms factories.

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    Operation White Gun: Another ATF Weapons Op Under Scrutiny

    January 15, 2012By: Freedom Fighter Category: Uncategorized

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    Hope A. MacAllister wanted access to police and military vaults for American weapons recovered by Mexican authorities in raids and at crime scenes. She especially was interested in firearms from another ATF investigation, code-named White Gun, that she was running.

    “Apparently guns got away again,” said one source close to the investigation, led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista) and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa). “How many got into Mexico, who knows?”

    Officials from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives declined to comment on whether any firearms were lost in White Gun. But unlike Fast and Furious, they vigorously defended the previously unreported White Gun operation as a well-managed investigation that produced three arrests and convictions.

    The three men “were looking to acquire military-grade weapons for a drug cartel,” said an ATF official, who asked for anonymity because the case involves an undercover operation. “This was a classic example of bad guys showing up at a location to get the weapons they desire but getting arrested by law enforcement instead.”

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    Fast and Furious: Mystery of the White Guns


    Has yet another "gun walking" operation been uncovered?

    by John Hayward
    01/13/2012
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    The House Oversight committee is looking into yet another Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms operation in which, as a source told the L.A. Times, “apparently guns got away again.” Hopefully the Bureau doesn’t lose track of alcohol and tobacco as often as they let firearms “get away” from them, or we’ll be looking at the kind of public health crisis the White House actually cares about.

    The operation currently on the desks of “gun walking” investigators Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) was called Operation White Gun. Despite the odd code name, it had nothing to do with cracking down on heavily armed white supremacists. It was all about arming the Sinaloa cartel, the same murderous Mexican gang who got all those guns from Operation Fast and Furious.

    Operation White Gun was supposedly more like a normal sting operation, where Fast and Furious simply threw 1,700 American guns across the border, without any real attempt to track them. As the L.A. Times recounts it:

    According to documents that the ATF sent to the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces, an umbrella group of U.S. agencies that seeks to disrupt major drug trafficking and money laundering, White Gun targeted nine leaders of the Sinaloa cartel. The list included Joaquin "Chapo" Guzman, who heads the cartel and is Mexico's most wanted drug suspect.

    In ATF reports, MacAllister wrote that U.S. intelligence showed cartel members were setting up military-type training camps in the Sierra de Durango mountains, near Guzman's northern Mexico hide-out, and wanted to bolster their arsenal with grenade launchers and .50-caliber machine guns.

    The agents focused first on Vicente Fernando Guzman Patino, a cartel insider who was identified as one of their weapons purchasers and who often used code words and phrases, saying "57" for "OK," for instance.

    In fall 2009, the ATF team sent an undercover agent posing as an arms dealer to Guzman Patino. Photos of weapons, including a Dragon Fire 120-millimeter heavy mortar, were emailed to his "Superman6950" Hotmail account.

    According to the ATF documents, Guzman Patino told the undercover agent that "if he would bring them a tank, they would buy it." He boasted he had "$15 million to spend on firearms and not to worry about the money." He wanted "the biggest and most extravagant firearms available."

    Well of course you’re not going to get a tank, Mr. Patino. U.S. politicians aren't interested in pushing any tank-control legislation.

    The upshot of this little email exchange between the undercover ATF agent and the gun-happy Sinaloa quartermaster was a classic crime-drama meet outside a restaurant in Phoenix, where the ATF man popped open his trunk and showed the delighted Patino a stockpile of weapons, including “a Bushmaster rifle and a Ramo .50 heavy machine gun.” And then…

    … well, we don’t know what happened next. The investigation suddenly ended. No documentation unearthed so far confirms whether Patino got any White Gun weapons or not.

    Some lower-level stooges got busted by the same undercover agent after they tried to trade crystal meth for shoulder-launched missiles, but none of the cartel bigwigs targeted by White Gun seem to have been taken down in the operation.

    ATF agent Hope McAllister, a leader in the Operation Fast and Furious disaster, reportedly spent some time in Mexico during the summer of 2010 looking for White Gun weapons among the ordnance seized from cartel killers by the Mexican government. That behavior is not consistent with a tightly-controlled sting operation run by people who know exactly where all the contraband merchandise went. “Sooooo… you guys wouldn’t happen to have seized any of the guns on this list, would you? No? Oh, well, just thought I’d ask. Adios!

    This is all very strange, because usually the Obama Justice Department is so meticulous with its paperwork, and so eager to show it off to congressional investigators and the public. The L.A. Times’ source inside the investigation said of the White Guns, “How many got into Mexico? Who knows?” I’ll bet the answer to that question, at least initially, will not be “Attorney General Eric Holder.”

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    Let's not forget "Operation Castaway" that was running guns from Florida to Honduras.
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    Holder’s L.A. Times Lackey “Breaks” The ATF White Gun Story

    January 17, 2012
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    In his January 12th article on the 2010 ATF Operation White Gun, Los Angeles Times reporter Richard Serrano did little more than tell readers that 3 virtual nobodies had been arrested in an expensive sting which somehow allowed an unknown number of guns to disappear across the Mexican border. In fact, there are probably more questions raised in the story than answered.
    But it is not his skill or work ethic as an investigative reporter which have endeared him to the left. Rather, it is the fact that, true to form, he managed to make the ATF, its Department of Justice bosses, and even disgraced former U.S Attorney Dennis Burke look good in the process.

    Serrano has been a “go-to” guy for the “approved” breaking of stories dealing with Eric Holder and the Department of Justice for years. In fact, their relationship goes all the way back to the days of Waco and the Oklahoma City bombing aftermath.

    For example, the story broke in July that emails mentioning Fast and Furious and gunwalking had been sent by Phoenix ATF office head Bill Newell to White House National Security staffer Kevin O’Reilly. As O’Reilly met at least weekly with the president, existence of such documents might suggest that White House claims of ignorance about gunwalking were not truthful. Serrano “somehow” obtained a number of these emails and immediately published them in order to show there was in fact no mention of Fast and Furious in the documents. In this way, he sought to prove that the White House had not been informed of the Operation.

    Naturally, he didn’t bother to relate how or from whom he had obtained the emails or that those he published represented only a carefully selected, very few of the total number in existence.

    Just weeks ago, Serrano “obtained” the July 4th deposition of former ATF Director Ken Melson taken by staffers and representatives of Charles Grassley, ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    And the word is that it was committee Democrats who saw to it that Serrano was provided both with Melson’s deposition and the official story which Serrano was entrusted to put out–that “Justice officials…were never told about…Fast and Furious tactics…”

    And it is this claim, so obligingly presented by Serrano in the L.A. Times, with which Eric Holder will trot into his upcoming appearance before Darrell Issa’s House committee on February 2nd. The Attorney General will maintain that the Fast and Furious debacle was engineered by ATF agents behaving in a manner quite out of line with accepted procedure and far below the stratospheric level—and therefore notice–of Department of Justice upper echelon.

    Of course, B. Todd Jones, Melson’s replacement as ATF director was generously quoted by Serrano as he blamed Melson for a lack of management skills which “…allowed overzealous field agents and supervisors to go beyond approved tactics.”

    So, once again in his long career of carrying water for Eric Holder and the DOJ, Richard Serrano has presented the talking points for the Attorney General’s upcoming testimony by clarifying the real reason for that darned Fast and Furious SNAFU: none of the ATF underlings who crafted and carried out the scheme let the mature, caring, and scrupulously honest Obama Regime adults in the Department of Justice hierarchy know what was going on.

    More will undoubtedly come of the White Gun affair. But if it is reported in the L.A. Times, let the byline be your guide. If it says Richard Serrano, just pretend the story was written by Eric Holder and you’ll be fine.

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    Another ATF operation comes under scrutiny after supplying Mexican drug cartels with guns
    Written by: pjwalker911
    LA Times | Jan 12, 2012

    Reporting from Washington—In the late summer of 2010, the ATF agent leading the failed Fast and Furious gun-smuggling operation in Arizona flew to Mexico City to help coordinate cross-border investigations of U.S. weapons used by Mexican drug cartels.

    Hope A. MacAllister wanted access to police and military vaults for American weapons recovered by Mexican authorities in raids and at crime scenes. She especially was interested in firearms from another ATF investigation, code-named White Gun, that she was running.

    Now members of Congress who have spent months scrutinizing the Fast and Furious debacle are seeking to determine whether White Gun was another weapons investigation gone wrong.

    “Apparently guns got away again,” said one source close to the investigation, led by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista) and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa). “How many got into Mexico, who knows?”

    Officials from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives declined to comment on whether any firearms were lost in White Gun. But unlike Fast and Furious, they vigorously defended the previously unreported White Gun operation as a well-managed investigation that produced three arrests and convictions.

    The three men “were looking to acquire military-grade weapons for a drug cartel,” said an ATF official, who asked for anonymity because the case involves an undercover operation. “This was a classic example of bad guys showing up at a location to get the weapons they desire but getting arrested by law enforcement instead.”

    In Fast and Furious, more than 1,700 firearms were lost after agents allowed illegal gun purchases in U.S. gun shops in hopes of tracking the weapons into Mexico. In White Gun, the ATF ran a traditional sting operation with undercover agents and confidential informants trying to snare suspects working for the Sinaloa drug cartel.

    According to internal ATF documents, including debriefing summaries and border task force overviews, White Gun and Fast and Furious both began in fall 2009, and the same ATF officials ran both cases.

    MacAllister was the lead agent. Her supervisor, David J. Voth, was head of the ATF’s Group VII field office in Phoenix. His boss was William D. Newell, then the special agent in charge in Phoenix.

    According to documents that the ATF sent to the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Forces, an umbrella group of U.S. agencies that seeks to disrupt major drug trafficking and money laundering, White Gun targeted nine leaders of the Sinaloa cartel. The list included Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman, who heads the cartel and is Mexico’s most wanted drug suspect.

    In ATF reports, MacAllister wrote that U.S. intelligence showed cartel members were setting up military-type training camps in the Sierra de Durango mountains, near Guzman’s northern Mexico hide-out, and wanted to bolster their arsenal with grenade launchers and .50-caliber machine guns.

    The agents focused first on Vicente Fernando Guzman Patino, a cartel insider who was identified as one of their weapons purchasers and who often used code words and phrases, saying “57? for “OK,” for instance.

    In fall 2009, the ATF team sent an undercover agent posing as an arms dealer to Guzman Patino. Photos of weapons, including a Dragon Fire 120-millimeter heavy mortar, were emailed to his “Superman6950? Hotmail account.

    According to the ATF documents, Guzman Patino told the undercover agent that “if he would bring them a tank, they would buy it.” He boasted he had “$15 million to spend on firearms and not to worry about the money.” He wanted “the biggest and most extravagant firearms available.”

    The two met again outside a Phoenix restaurant, and the undercover agent showed Guzman Patino five weapons in the trunk of his vehicle, including a Bushmaster rifle and a Ramo .50 heavy machine gun. The undercover agent said he could get that kind of firepower for the Sinaloans.

    Just as Guzman Patino seemed ready to buy, according to the ATF records, the investigation into his activities abruptly ended. The documents do not explain why, and they don’t indicate whether he obtained any weapons.

    A second case involved cartel members who were seeking shoulder-launched antiaircraft missiles and antitank rockets, according to the ATF records.

    The same undercover agent met the pair in February 2010 at a Phoenix warehouse. David Diaz-Sosa and Jorge DeJesus-Casteneda brought 11 pounds of crystal methamphetamine to trade for weapons. The undercover agent showed them shoulder-launched missiles, rocket launchers and grenades before ATF agents moved in and arrested them.

    Diaz-Sosa, 26, of Sinaloa, Mexico, pleaded guilty in April to gun and drug charges. DeJesus-Casteneda, 22, also of Sinaloa, pleaded guilty to drug charges. A third suspect, Emilia Palomino-Robles, 42, of Sonora, Mexico, pleaded guilty to delivering drugs as a partial payment for military-grade weaponry.

    None of the three was included on the list of nine cartel leaders who were targeted in the operation.

    The U.S. attorney in Phoenix at the time, Dennis K. Burke, who later resigned over Fast and Furious, called the White Gun convictions “a tremendous team effort that put a stop to a well-financed criminal conspiracy to acquire massive destructive firepower.”

    By that summer, MacAllister had gone to Mexico City to check the police and military vaults. The ATF documents don’t detail what she found, but they note she discovered “weapons in military custody related to her current investigations.

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