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    Terrorist certificate placed in envelope from Saudi embassy in Washington

    Details sparked concerns government may have links to the terror attacks

    Relations between US and Saudi are at a low point, with Obama snubbed by the King as he arrived at Riyadh airport

    Obama has been accused of siding with Saudi over 9/11 victims' families

    Families have been pushing Congress for the right to sue Saudi Arabia

    Row over whether to declassify 28 pages of papers has intensified

    See more of the latest on Saudi Arabia's 'link' to the 9/11 terror attacks

    By LYDIA WILLGRESS FOR MAILONLINE and ASSOCIATED PRESS PUBLISHED: 10:37 GMT, 20 April 2016 | UPDATED: 03:44 GMT, 21 April 2016

    How can Obama break bread with them? President meets with Saudi ruler in Riyadh as row rages over secret report 'linking the Arab kingdom with 9/11 attacks'

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    White House set to release part of controversial classified 9/11 report that will 'expose Saudi Arabia's support for hijackers'

    Obama administration likely soon release secret papers that could light on possible Saudi connection to 9/11

    Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were citizens of Saudi Arabia

    Disclosure will come at time when relations between US and Saudi Arabia are strained

    Saudis have long said that they would welcome declassification

    They said it will give them a chance to respond to allegations

    Read more: White House to release 9/11 papers that could shed light on possible Saudi funding | Daily Mail Online

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    BY: Alyssa Canobbio April 25, 2016 9:25 am

    A North Carolina middle school choir singing the National Anthem at the 9/11 Memorial in New York City was shut down by two security guards, according to a report.

    The reason? It could be considered a public demonstration.

    The New York Postreported that the guards told music teacher Martha Brown that the group needed a permit to sing.

    “Some of the students were very upset and confused. I told the children, ‘This is a place where you need to respect authority even if you don’t understand it,’” Brown said.

    The Waynesville Middle School choir was wrapping up their trip to New York City with a visit to the memorial at the World Trade Center, where both skyscrapers were destroyed after hijacked planes flew into them in a carefully planned terrorist attack.

    A mother with the group filmed the interaction and posted it on Facebook. The video of their interrupted rendition of the National Anthem has received more than 300,000 views as of this publishing.

    The choir had seen the Broadway musical “The Lion King” and sung at Saint John the Divine Cathedral. and Brown wanted to add a bit of history to the whirlwind trip.

    Brown said that the choir signing was their way of paying their respects and the guards could have waited just another 30 seconds for them to finish.

    A spokeswoman for the memorial said that the situation was not handled properly and that the staff would be working with security to ensure that the situation would not happen again to future student performances.

    It is unclear if the security guard was disciplined.


    Report: Security Guards Shut Down Patriotic Choir at 9/11 Memorial


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    Release of Classified Pages on Foreign 9/11 Support Imminent

    Chris Hannas Last updated on: April 25, 2016 6:29 AM

    WASHINGTON—Nearly 15 years after terrorists hijacked four passenger jets and crashed them into the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon outside Washington, D.C., and a farm field in Pennsylvania, 28 pages detailing foreign support for the attackers could soon be made public.

    Only a select group of U.S. officials have read the highly classified document, which has been locked in a secure area of the U.S. Capitol building since a joint congressional committee crafted it in 2002.

    Bills in both the Senate and House of Representatives and people who helped write it are calling for its release.

    Despite its classified status, those familiar with the chapter have made enough allusions to its connections with Saudi Arabia for people to wonder about what exact link the document may suggest.



    FILE - Bob Graham speaks in Gainesville, Fla., Oct. 12, 2012. The Obama administration will likely soon release
    at least part of a 28-page secret chapter from a congressional inquiry into 9/11 that may shed light on possible
    Saudi connections to the attac

    Former Senator Bob Graham, who was a part of the joint committee, said Sunday during an interview on NBC's Meet The Press the pages should be released to end debate over what they contain and let the American public make up its own mind about the contents.

    When asked if the release would have a high-level negative impact, Graham said yes.

    Saudi citizens

    He said whether the 19 hijackers, 15 of whom were Saudi citizens, had any outside help is the most important outstanding question related to the September 11, 2001, attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

    "I think it's implausible to think that people who couldn't speak English, had never been in the United States before, as a group were not well-educated, could have done that," he said. "So who was the most likely entity to have provided them that support? And I think that all of the evidence points to Saudi Arabia."

    Former President George W. Bush ordered the 28 pages to be classified and not included in the 828-page congressional report that was released to the public.

    His successor, Barack Obama, has ordered his intelligence team to review the chapter, and Graham said he hopes the text will be made available when a decision is made by June.




    FILE - Ben Rhodes, U.S. deputy national security adviserbeing interviewed by CNN, talks in the White House
    press briefing room about the vulnerabilty of some executive office computer systems to hackers, April 7, 2015.

    Last week, Obama's Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes said he expects "there will be some degree of declassification that provides more information."

    But Rhodes did not speak to the timing and cautioned that the work of the joint congressional commission and the subsequent 9/11 Commission have given a "definitive statement" determining that Saudi Arabia did not have an intent to support al-Qaida.

    Obama visit

    U.S.-Saudi relations have come under heightened focus with Obama's visit there last week and his public criticism that the kingdom is not doing enough to address terrorism in its own region.

    Another member of the congressional commission, former Representative Tim Roemer, said last week that the group "did not exonerate the Saudis," and that the pages should be declassified.

    "The Saudis won't relish the renewed spotlight, and it could strain relations with a valued ally with whom we have sometimes experienced a turbulent partnership," Roemer wrote in RealClearPolitics. "But we have more to fear from secrecy and conspiracy theories than pursuing transparency and truth, and the 9/11 families deserve to have the fullest possible record available from past investigations."

    The 9/11 Commission Report, which was published in 2004, calls Saudi Arabia a "problematic ally in combating Islamic extremism."

    In addition to citing a cooperation failure among U.S. security agencies, the report notes a failure in U.S.-Saudi cooperation in sharing intelligence information or disrupting al-Qaida's finances.

    9/11 hijackers

    It also offers varied explanations as to why so many of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis.

    The report said Ramzi Binalshibh, a Guantanamo Bay detainee described as the "coordinator" of the attacks, explained the choice of the hijackers as a deliberate message to the Saudi government about its relationship with the United States.

    But the next paragraph cites 9/11 "mastermind" Khalid Shaikh Mohammed denying that theory. Instead, Mohammed says the number of Saudis involved in the attacks was a reflection of the high percentage of recruits in al-Qaida training camps who came from Saudi Arabia.


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    There should be an agreeable amount that limit$ Saudi Arabias financial responsibility like $20B or maybe the cost of all damages and $10M to each family of the victims. This has been done with Libya and should serve as a warning to all states that either sponsor or support terrorism that you will be held accountable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe s View Post
    There should be an agreeable amount that limit$ Saudi Arabias financial responsibility like $20B or maybe the cost of all damages and $10M to each family of the victims. This has been done with Libya and should serve as a warning to all states that either sponsor or support terrorism that you will be held accountable.
    This will open the U.S. to being sued by every person who has had a family member killed in any country by any U.S. military action. They will claim that everyone killed was a civilian and the U.S. owes them $10 million for each person. Every bomb dropped and every missile or drone strike will become a lawsuit.
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    911 appears to be a case where America's enemies, like Saudi Arabia, were able to conduct attacks on us from within our own nation and then misdirect our national response into invasions of their enemies in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    We need the 28 pages released. We need to let US families sue the Saudis. We need to exact justice upon the real 9/11 attackers and expel the influences of Saudi Arabia, Mexico, and China from America because those nations are clearly our enemies and are working in collusion and cooperation with each other to attack, weaken, and dismantle the United States!

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