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    Time Magazine: Illegals may be Person of the Year

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    by: Douglas Ernst
    Tuesday, November 27, 2012


    A illegal immigrant climbs over a fence at the U.S.-Mexico border. Time magazine is asking readers whether illegal immigrants should be considered its Person of the Year 2012. Photo Credit:AP

    Time magazine is asking readers to vote on whether illegal immigrants should be deemed its Person of the Year 2012. The publication says the group is " 'labeled illegal' by many," although it does not clarify how individuals coming into a country in violation of immigration laws could be defined any other way.



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    Should 'undocumented immigrants' be named TIME's Person of the Year? (poll)

    By Leslie Berestein Rojas | November 27th, 2012, 12:23pm
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    A student protester's t-shirt during a demonstration for an end to deportations on June 15, 2012 in Los Angeles, California.

    What do undocumented immigrants, Karl Rove, Jon Stewart and Korean rapper Psy of "Gangnam Style" infamy have in common? They're all nominees for TIME's 2012 Person of the Year.

    The magazine is asking readers to choose from among 40 nominee suggestions "the person you think most influenced the news this year for better or worse." As has happened in other years, some nominees are not a particular person but rather a newsworthy group of people, such as 2011's Person of the Year, "The Protester."

    Why undocumented immigrants, and why this year? As TIME's Howard Chua-Eoan explains, this constituency found itself at the center of a major policy decision during the summer, when President Obama announced plans to grant temporary legal status to some young immigrants under deferred action. They also may have indirectly swayed the election, in turn potentially influencing future immigration policy. Chua-Eoan writes:

    Suddenly the logjam of immigration reform shifted, as more than 1 million undocumented young people who had been in the country for the past five years found themselves with new opportunities. What is more, the sympathies of other groups of people who have undocumented relatives — and thus are mindful of their plight — may have clearly shifted to a President on a campaign for re-election, as evidenced by the preponderance of Hispanic and Asian-American voters casting their ballots for Obama.

    Chastened by the results of the vote, the GOP has warmed to a legislative fix, increasing chances of comprehensive reform.


    TIME is asking readers to click on circles marked "definitely" or "no way." So far, the "no ways" are in the lead (28,092), compared with 16,187 "definitely" votes for undocumented immigrants. The winner in the running so far is the new president of Egypt, Mohamed Morsy, with 174,238 "definitely" votes.

    Voting closes at 11:59 p.m. on Dec. 12. The magazine plans to announce the winner Dec. 14. The Person of the Year cover issue, dated Dec. 31, goes on sale Dec. 21.

    In the meantime, you can also weigh in our (nonscientific) poll, below, and share your thoughts below. (Voting in our poll won't affect TIME's decision; you can vote in their poll at this link.)

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    Poll Results

    Here Are the Results (So far.)


    BAUMGARTNER, DOUGLAS, CLINTON, MAYER, OBAMA, PSY, RYAN: GETTY IMAGES; MORSY: AP; YOUSAFZAI: CORBIS


    As always, TIME's editors will choose the Person of the Year (issue date December 31, 2012, on sale December 21). The winner of the people's choice for the person who most influenced the news this year for better or worse will be announced on December 14. Voting closes at 11:59 PM on December 12th.

    Name Definitely No Way
    Mohamed Morsy 199,973 211,398
    Kim Jong Un 153,293 57,055
    Malala Yousafzai 88,295 26,646
    Stephen Colbert 49,550 36,282
    Psy 46,263 49,813
    Bashar Assad 45,945 72,015
    The Mars Rover 45,100 31,852
    Barack Obama 41,865 54,248
    Undocumented Immigrants 37,759 38,856
    The Higgs Boson Particle 33,157 28,729
    Felix Baumgartner 29,571 40,917
    Jon Stewart 27,817 32,552
    Pussy Riot 25,057 40,808
    Hillary Clinton 24,930 43,634
    Aung San Suu Kyi and Thein Sein 24,288 29,657
    Bill Clinton 22,488 41,641
    Michael Phelps 21,835 46,910
    Gabby Douglas 19,346 39,083
    Ai Weiwei 18,225 37,787
    Sandra Fluke 17,602 42,770
    Chris Christie 13,538 44,342
    Joe Biden 13,354 49,111
    John Roberts 11,451 40,075
    Mitt Romney 11,262 60,940
    Mo Farah 10,011 39,258
    Benjamin Netanyahu 9,926 71,064
    Marissa Mayer 9,789 44,384
    Michael Bloomberg 9,318 47,484
    Paul Ryan 8,469 53,832
    Jay-Z 6,848 54,893
    Mario Draghi 5,777 41,804
    Tim Cook 5,701 49,197
    Xi Jinping 4,814 40,739
    Bo Xilai 3,764 47,307
    Sheldon Adelson 3,039 74,630
    E.L. James 2,666 51,257
    Karl Rove 2,613 53,807
    Roger Goodell 2,413 47,602

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    VOTE HERE

    (Click the link below.)
    Here Are the Results - Who Should Be TIME's Person of the Year 2012? - TIME

    YOU CAN CLICK THROUGH THE 40 CHOICES AND VOTE FOR OR AGAINST EACH.
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    ADDED TO ALIPAC HOMEPAGE News with amended title ..

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    Really, that is the best that the socialist rag could come up with? No wonder this world has sunk into depraved darkness ..

    Name Definitely No Way
    Mohamed Morsy 203,435 217,014
    Kim Jong Un 156,661 59,593
    Malala Yousafzai 94,566 27,472
    Stephen Colbert 53,315 37,430
    Psy 47,840 51,431
    Bashar Assad 47,095 74,027
    The Mars Rover 46,879 32,725
    Barack Obama 43,286 55,801
    Undocumented Immigrants 40,949 40,224
    The Higgs Boson Particle 34,720 29,607
    Felix Baumgartner 30,558 42,182
    Jon Stewart 29,085 33,498
    Pussy Riot 26,166 42,015
    Hillary Clinton 25,967 44,942
    Aung San Suu Kyi and Thein Sein 25,366 30,535
    Bill Clinton 23,316 42,967
    Michael Phelps 22,461 48,501
    Gabby Douglas 20,069 40,455
    Ai Weiwei 18,994 38,879
    Sandra Fluke 18,562 44,149
    Chris Christie 13,990 45,927
    Joe Biden 13,950 50,663
    John Roberts 11,905 41,357
    Mitt Romney 11,625 63,227
    Mo Farah 10,358 40,616
    Benjamin Netanyahu 10,342 72,948
    Marissa Mayer 10,182 45,857
    Michael Bloomberg 9,666 49,079
    Paul Ryan 8,737 55,947
    Jay-Z 7,111 56,870
    Mario Draghi 6,015 43,231
    Tim Cook 5,916 50,942
    Xi Jinping 5,007 42,129
    Bo Xilai 3,923 48,863
    Sheldon Adelson 3,128 76,934
    E.L. James 2,756 53,183
    Karl Rove 2,704 55,777
    Roger Goodell 2,516 49,384


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    The only one is Chris Christie the other 's No way
    No amnestyor Dream act

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    Quote Originally Posted by southBronx View Post
    The only one is Chris Christie the other 's No way
    No amnestyor Dream act
    Chris Christie supports Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty for illegal aliens which makes him a huge hypocrite after making a big deal of opposing licenses and in-state tuition for illegals to win the Governorship against traitor Corzine.

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    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/09/chris_christie_flaws.html

    CHRIS CHRISYIE

    1. Illegal Immigration

    The biggest chink in Rick Perry's armor so far has been his record on illegal immigration — specifically, the legislation he passed as governor to allow illegal immigrants to pay the in-state tuition rate when attending state colleges and universities. It's this policy that has led many Republicans to question whether Perry really gets illegal immigration at all. But Chris Christie is hardly the ally that illegal-immigration foes are looking for. In 2010, Christie told Politico that America needs to come up with a "clear path to citizenship." He didn't say "for illegal immigrants," but since America already has a clear path to citizenship for legal immigrants, that's what he meant. This is an entirely reasonable and mainstream position, but in much of the GOP, they call it "amnesty."

    Christie's opponents could also point to the time he insisted that being in the country illegally is not a crime but an "administrative matter." He's right — simply overstaying your visa, for example, can get you deported but can't land you in jail. But to impassioned illegal-immigration warriors, we're not sure the nuance will be appreciated.

    Then there's Christie's record on illegal immigration as a U.S. Attorney in New Jersey, the job he held before he became governor. Back in 2008, Bill Tucker, a producer on Lou Dobbs's now-deceased CNN show, could only find thirteen illegal-immigration cases prosecuted by Christie's office between 2002 and 2007. Tucker compared that to the U.S. Attorney's office in Kansas, which, despite a much smaller population, prosecuted 597 cases in the same time period. "This man is an utter embarrassment," Dobbs wailed.

    2. Gun Control
    In an October 2009 appearance on Sean Hannity's Fox News show, Christie voiced support for some gun-control laws:

    HANNITY: Are there any issues where you are, quote, moderate to left as a Republican?

    CHRISTIE: Listen, I favor some of the gun-control measures we have in New Jersey.

    HANNITY: Bad idea.

    CHRISTIE: Listen, we have a densely-populated state, and there's a big hand gun problem in New Jersey. Now, I don't support all the things that the governor supports by a long stretch. But I think on guns — certain gun control issues, looking at it from a law-enforcement perspective, seeing how many police officers were killed, we have an illegal gun problem in New Jersey.

    HANNITY: Should every — should every citizen in the state be allowed to get a licensed weapon if they want one?

    CHRISTIE: In New Jersey, that's not going to happen, Sean.

    HANNITY: Why?

    CHRISTIE: Listen, the Democratic legislature we have, there's no way those type of things — listen, at the end of the day, what I support are common sense laws that will allow people to protect themselves, but I also am very concerned about the safety of our police officers on the streets, very concerned. And I want to make sure that we don't have an abundance of guns out there.

    Again, most people believe in having some "common sense" gun-control laws. But when politicians say "common sense gun-control laws," conservatives hear "seize all weapons and ban hunting and make everyone eat tofu." Compare Christie's even-handedness on guns to Perry, who literally goes jogging with a laser-sighted pistol in case he needs to shoot any coyotes. When Perry was asked earlier this month whether the supports gun control, he responded, "I am actually for gun control. Use both hands."


    3. Climate Change

    Rick Perry claims that climate change is a hoax that scientists have concocted as a way to get more funding. Chris Christie, after going back and forth on the issue a bit, said just this August that "climate change is real" and "human activity plays a role in these changes." As for those scheming scientists, Christie said that "when you have over 90 percent of the world’s scientists who have studied this stating that climate change is occurring and that humans play a contributing role, it’s time to defer to the experts."


    4. Race to the Top

    Race to the Top, the federal program created by President Obama and Education Secretary Arne Duncan in which large grants are offered to states that reform their education systems, shouldn't necessarily be a problem for conservatives. After all, some of the reforms Race to the Top hopes to incentivize, such as measuring teachers based on the success of their students, are goals shared by Republicans.

    But apparently it's a sin these days to support anything the Obama administration does. In the last GOP debate, Rick Perry proclaimed that "there is one person on this stage that is for Obama's Race to the Top and that is Governor Romney," adding, "[T]hat is not conservative." Mitt Romney then tied himself up in knots trying to deny the accusation. "I'm not sure exactly what he's saying," Romney claimed. "I don't support any particular program that he's describing."


    Well, we know Chris Christie supports Race to the Top, because as governor, he applied for its funds. Christie also called Obama a "great ally" in education reform and praised Duncan as an "extraordinary leader on this issue."


    5. Muslims

    Remember when people pretended, for a little while, that the ground-zero mosque was a slap in the face of the victims of 9/11? In the heat of the controversy, as Republican politicians demagogued the issue to death, Christie claimed that the mosque was "being used as a political football by both parties." He added that while we must "give some measure of deference to the feelings" of 9/11 families, "it would be wrong to so overreact to that, that we paint Islam with a brush of radical Muslim extremists that just want to kill Americans because we are Americans."


    And while we're talking about Muslims, Christie came under fire by some anti-Islam hysterics this summer for his appointment of Sohail Mohammed to New Jersey Superior Court. Mohammed, a Muslim lawyer, at one point represented Mohammed Qatanani, a New Jersey imam facing deportation who had alleged past ties to Hamas. The ties were never proven and Qatanani wasn't deported, partly owing to the support he received from Jewish leaders, politicians, and law-enforcement officials like Chris Christie, who called Qatanani "a man of great goodwill." As for the outcry over his nomination of Mohammed, Christie said, "It's just crazy, and I'm tired of dealing with the crazies."

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