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    TX- PRO-ILLEGAL CLAIMS GOP WILL LOSE SUPPORT OF ILLEGALS????

    Of course the Pro-ILLEGAL author refers to ILLEGALS as immigrants! One of the author's points were that Bush and McCain bent over backwards and forwards and still did not receive 50% of the hispanic vote even though he said that they have the same principles as most conservatives.

    Again, why do some Hispanics who are United States Citizens desire to partner themselves with criminal ILLEGALS? I would think any U.S. Citizens would want to distance themselves from the ILLEGALS! Could it be just the so called "Hispanics Leadership (?)" fabricating a play for power and of course money always the money, maybe evenhigh 6 figure salaries! Do all United States Citizens of any other heritage want to protect ILLEGALS from their heritage who are in the United States as ILLEGALS? The answer is NO except for only the individuals that would benefit financially from the ILLEGALS or receive Political Power. The Hispanic leadership (?) claims that the vast majority of U.S. Citizens of Hispanic Heritage do support the criminal ILLEGALS as strongly as the Hispanics leadership (?)!
    I would suggest that the self appointed leadership of any Heritage Group main concern is to receive monetary gains and be able to furnish votes for their Elitist Politicians in return for power.


    King: Immigration stance poses big risk for GOP
    By BILL KING
    Updated 08:48 p.m., Wednesday, September 7, 2011
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    I have a friend who is a very successful banker at one of the large national banks. We have never discussed what he makes, but I am sure it is well into six figures. As one might expect from a successful banker, he is a rather conservative fellow.

    He and I were recently discussing politics. He told me that he had voted a straight Republican ticket his entire life, but that he would never again vote for any Republican. I asked why and he said, "They have insulted my family and disrespected my father."

    You see, my friend's father came to the United States illegally from Mexico in the 1950s specifically so that his children would have the chance at the life my friend is living today. His father eventually became a citizen as a result of President Reagan's immigration reform in 1984. Reagan was a hero to his family for championing their cause. Now Republicans are calling his father a criminal.

    I do not know what Republican strategist came up with the idea of making immigration a wedge issue, but one almost has to wonder if it was not a Democratic saboteur. Take the fastest growing demographic group in the country, and one that is inclined to agree with your party on a wide variety of cultural issues in particular, and then do everything you can to alienate them. Brilliant.

    This is one political calculus that the George W. Bush and Karl Rove team had right. While governor, Bush reached out to Latinos and liberally appointed them to a wide variety of commissions and benches. As president, he pushed hard for comprehensive immigration reform. As a result, he consistently won about 40 percent to 45 percent of the Latino vote, seriously cutting into what had been considered part of the Democratic base.

    But after months of anti-immigrant vitriol in the 2008 Republican primaries, John McCain's share of the Latino vote dropped to the low 30s, notwithstanding his relatively moderate stance on immigration. Considering President Obama's margin of victory in 2008, it can hardly be argued that the issue was a deciding factor in the election. But looking forward to 2012, and even more so in 2016, a growing Latino population (and its growing voting participation) could easily be a deciding factor, especially in the swing states of Florida, Colorado and New Mexico.

    Political parties attempting to tap into anti-immigrant fervor is nothing new. Throughout our country's history, various political parties have tried to exploit the anxiety that normally accompanies large waves of immigration. Parties like the American Party (1850s), the Immigration Restriction League (1890s) and my person favorite, the aptly named, Know Nothing Party (1850s) are a few of those. Chances are you have never heard of any of these, which, of course, speaks volumes on the long-term viability of such a strategy.

    Almost all of the Republican strategists and elected officials with whom I visit understand that, regardless of their view on the policy issues, the immigration issue is an unfolding political disaster for their party. Increasingly, Republican activists are attempting to take back the issue by promoting reasonable immigration reform and toning down the anti-Latino rhetoric. For example, Harris County arch-conservative Steven Hotze cut a video advocating immigration reform and extolling the virtues of the immigrant community as part of an effort by Republican business leaders to head off the sanctuary-city bill in the Texas Legislature this year.

    Behind closed doors, Republicans and Democrats in Congress have agreed on the basics of immigration reform. Improve border security. Have a guest-worker program and allow immigrants to come and go. Tamper-proof IDs. A procedure that allows immigrants who came here illegally, or were brought here illegally as children, to gain a legal status after satisfying certain conditions. There are some details to be worked out, but it is not rocket science and polls show that a large majority of Americans favor this type of moderate, common-sense approach.

    But both political parties, for different reasons, have political incentives to not solve the problem. Republicans, after having let the genie out of the bottle, now are petrified of the issue in their own primaries. In the meantime, as long as there is no solution, Democrats can continue to paint Republicans as the anti-Latino party. What began as a Republican wedge issue has ironically become a wedge issue for Democrats to peel Latino voters away from the Republican Party.

    This quagmire is yet another example of how our two-party, hyperpartisan system is broken. Of all of the problems we face today, and they are certainly numerous and daunting, getting our immigration system fixed is one of the easiest to address. And yet because of the bitter, toxic political milieu in which we find ourselves, our immigration policy is adrift with no land in sight.

    Email King at BKing@weking.net


    http://www.chron.com/opinion/king/artic ... 159857.php

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    Attempts

    Attempts to get the GOP or any political party to pander to your ethnic group will not work, nor should it...

    If we were to stop immigration and deport all illegal aliens (even anchor babies after their citizenship has been declared void) this would leave the so-called hispanic vote looking very weak and frail with emptiness behind their claims of a growing demographic. Without latino/hispanic immigration the demographic shift will stabilize and possibly reverse itself.

    The GOP must not pander to hispanics/latinos and should stick with their basic conservative core values and what the majority of Republican constituents desire.

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    I'm convinced illegal invaders are voting by the thousands in our elections. Why else would our politicians continue to pander to them if they were not receiving some benefit in return.

    There is absolutely nothing or anyone stopping illegal invaders from voting in this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    I'm convinced illegal invaders are voting by the thousands in our elections. Why else would our politicians continue to pander to them if they were not receiving some benefit in return.

    There is absolutely nothing or anyone stopping illegal invaders from voting in this country.
    "How aliens view the importance of this benefit was illustrated by the work of a federal grand jury in 1984 that found large numbers of aliens registered to vote in Chicago. As the grand jury reported, many aliens "register to vote so that they can obtain documents identifying them as U.S. citizens" and have "used their voters' cards to obtain a myriad of benefits, from social security to jobs with the Defense Department."[21] The U.S. Attorney at the time estimated that there were at least 80,000 illegal aliens registered to vote in Chicago, and dozens were indicted and convicted for registering and voting.[22]

    The grand jury's report resulted in a limited cleanup of the voter registration rolls in Chicago, but just one year later, INS District Director A. D. Moyer testified before a state legislative task force that 25,000 illegal and 40,000 legal aliens remained on the rolls in Chicago. Moyer told the Illinois Senate that non-citizens registered so they could get a voter registration card for identification, adding that the card was "a quick ticket into the unemployment compensation system."[23] An alien from Belize, for example, testified that he and his two sisters were able to register easily because they were not asked for any identification or proof of citizenship and lied about where they were born. After securing registration, he voted in Chicago."

    From this article:

    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Report ... zen-Voting
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    . He told me that he had voted a straight Republican ticket his entire life, but that he would never again vote for any Republican.
    Hope you can live with yourself voting for all the other unsavory issues the Democrats support like abortion and Socialist programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReggieMay
    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    I'm convinced illegal invaders are voting by the thousands in our elections. Why else would our politicians continue to pander to them if they were not receiving some benefit in return.

    There is absolutely nothing or anyone stopping illegal invaders from voting in this country.
    "How aliens view the importance of this benefit was illustrated by the work of a federal grand jury in 1984 that found large numbers of aliens registered to vote in Chicago. As the grand jury reported, many aliens "register to vote so that they can obtain documents identifying them as U.S. citizens" and have "used their voters' cards to obtain a myriad of benefits, from social security to jobs with the Defense Department."[21] The U.S. Attorney at the time estimated that there were at least 80,000 illegal aliens registered to vote in Chicago, and dozens were indicted and convicted for registering and voting.[22]

    The grand jury's report resulted in a limited cleanup of the voter registration rolls in Chicago, but just one year later, INS District Director A. D. Moyer testified before a state legislative task force that 25,000 illegal and 40,000 legal aliens remained on the rolls in Chicago. Moyer told the Illinois Senate that non-citizens registered so they could get a voter registration card for identification, adding that the card was "a quick ticket into the unemployment compensation system."[23] An alien from Belize, for example, testified that he and his two sisters were able to register easily because they were not asked for any identification or proof of citizenship and lied about where they were born. After securing registration, he voted in Chicago."

    From this article:

    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Report ... zen-Voting
    Thanks for the link, too many in our Nation have their own agenda and could care less for the United States and our Citizens!

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