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    Women from all over the world come to El Paso to give birth

    Only on ABC-7: Women from all over the world come to El Paso to give birth

    Rick Cabrera, Anchor, rickcabrera@yahoo.com

    POSTED: 10:09 PM MDT Sep 14, 2015 UPDATED: 10:52 PM MDT Sep 14, 2015

    Pregnant women from all over the world coming to give birth

    EL PASO -It's common practice along the U.S.-Mexico border for a pregnant woman to cross into the U.S. to give birth, and in the process, secures citizenship, benefits for her child, and the possibility -- when the baby turns 21 -- of legal status for her and her family. ABC-7 recently discovered there is a systematic, organized industry bringing women from all over the world to deliver their babies right here in El Paso.

    The website for "Doctores Para Ti" reads like a chamber of commerce pamphlet, touting a strategic location along the border. The headline reads "The most important gift: U.S. citizenship for your baby." It even highlights El Paso's safety rating as one of the safest cities in the U.S. It promises affordable packages that include hospital and doctor's fees. It recommends hotels you'd want to consider.

    The hospitals will be Sierra and Del Sol Medical Centers, according to the website.

    There are dozens of clients who rave about the business, Doctores Para Ti, with testimonials reportedly from women in places like Brazil, Spain, Nigeria, Abu Dhabi, Russia and South Korea. It even has a Facebook page.

    "I didn't know we had such a professional organization doing such a thing in such a pronounced way," said Bob Pena, with the El Paso Republican Party. He was familiar with the common practice of individual women crossing the border to give birth.

    "When I was crossing the bridge I asked the inspector what he does when somebody comes over to have a baby? He said, 'Absolutely nothing.' If they have their passport they come in."

    Pena then asked what happens if they are coming over and she's in labor. Pena said the inspector said absolutely nothing.

    "He said she can come in as long as she has her passport," Pena said.

    "It's perfectly legal," says longtime immigration lawyer Ouisa Davis. "In reality people have always come to the U.S. from all over the (world), usually wealthy people from Europe and the former Soviet Union and have had children here and then utilized the immigration status of those children to later become permanent residents themselves," Davis said. "They can't do it until the person is 21 years old, but it's always been a practice of immigrants."


    Rodolfo Gamez, a representative with Doctores Para Ti agreed.


    "It's nothing new that we're doing. Every doctor in El Paso who is an OB-GYN has international patients," Gamez said.

    But with one difference.

    "We are promoting that the patient come in and do all their paperwork legally and pre-pay all their services so they do not go back owing one cent," Gomez said. "And they don't get their visas revoked or anything like that because they've done something wrong."


    Pena believes it's time for the U.S. to take a serious look at its immigration laws.


    "No other first-world country, none of the European countries, none of the first-world countries grant birthright citizenship. No other country. Not even Mexico," said Pena.


    "I don't know why this company feels this is a good way to increase their profit margin, but there must be a consumer base for it," Davis said. "You know it all comes down to money."

    As for the hospitals, an administrator with the Hospitals of Providence told ABC-7 the hospital has chosen not to participate and doesn't knowingly participate in any birthright tourism programs. Del Sol echoed the same thing in a statement.

    But again, it's all legal.

    Providence officials said they don't track the number of births to foreigners nor are they required to. Nationwide, the Pew Research Center estimates that each year around 300,000 children are born to undocumented immigrants in the U.S. But according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the birth tourism number in which the person is here legally is much lower at about 8,600 per year.

    http://www.kvia.com/video/pregnant-w...birth/35276360

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    Time to end automatic birthright citizenship for children of foreign nationals, i.e. aliens.

    But again, it's all legal.
    Why is it "legal"? Who told you it was "legal"? It's not legal. There's not one thing "legal" about it. These people are not under our jurisdiction. That's why they need a visa just to enter and be tourists. They're under the jurisdiction of their home countries, they're just visitors, not people under our jurisdiction. Not even the Wong Kim Ark case makes this "legal". The parents of Wong Kim Ark were in our country legally, they owned and operated as in worked in their business and lived here as residents, which is the ONLY reason he was granted citizenship by the US Supreme Court. That ruling today would only apply to green card holders with legal permanent status.

    In any event, Congress needs to stop this madness. I don't care if tourists come in here and have children so long as they pay their bills upfront, but there's nothing about that use here of medical services that qualifies their children for citizenship, not under any law, rule, regulation, act of Congress, Supreme Court Ruling or last but not least the US Constitution.
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    Venezuelans giving birth in S. Fla. to obtain citizenship for their children

    South Florida Sun Sentinel ^ | June 12, 2007 | Tal Abbady

    ...The women generally arrive on tourist visas when they are seven months pregnant and return home six weeks after delivery.

    Roberto Infante, director of research at the Florida Institute for Reproductive Sciences and Technologies in Weston, has coordinated care for about 30 Venezuelan expectant mothers since December.


    "I'm thinking only of my son's future," said Pita, 28, an interior designer from Caracas. "At first, I planned to give birth calmly back home, but then the rumors started. I kept wondering, `What if I can't take my child out of the country?..."


    Pita is staying at an apartment her mother owns in Weston. She gave birth to her son, Santiago, on June 1, and plans to return home in a month.


    Most women stay with friends or relatives and pay out of pocket, usually $4,000 in doctors' fees and $3,800 for hospital fees...


    "These women find a lot of comfort in being able to have their child in this country. They receive the best care and their child is guaranteed to be a U.S. citizen," said Infante, who heads the Venezuelan American Medical Association. He charges $500 to $1,000 for his services...


    ...immigration officials and advocates of stricter immigration laws say so-called "birth tours" are common. Thousands of middle-class South Korean women travel each year to the United States to give birth to U.S. citizens who can avoid their country's military draft.

    U.S. clinics along the Mexican border offer services to border-crossing, pregnant Mexican women that include delivery and the processing of birth certificates, passports and other documents for a set fee, according to information from U.S. Customs and Border Protection...


    (Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...

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    You want to give birth in the United States?


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