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07-01-2009, 06:04 PM #21Senior Member
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The tricky thing I see is the word jurisdiction, which implies: dominion, control, influence; district, range, reach according to my dictionary. An anchor baby is under the dominion, control, influence, district, range and reach of his/her illegal parents, who are not necessarily under the dominion, control, influence, district, range and reach of the United States.
If I am in Albania, I am subject to their jurisdiction temporarily but I am under the permanent jurisdiction of the US. That is why I would have a US passport to reinforce that point.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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07-01-2009, 06:17 PM #22HA! Of course the 9th Circus court will rule against the measure.
Originally Posted by NoBueno
I don't know which way they would rule.What about the U.S. Court of Appeals?
You need to ask Attorney at law. I have no idea if they will grant the Writ, but I think chances are good they will.And what affect will that have on Petition for Writ of Certiorari? In your opinion, does it matter who actually Petitions for Writ of Certiorari in so far as how this issue will be presented to the Supreme Court? Are you certain the Supreme Court will grant the Writ of Certiorari?Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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07-01-2009, 06:22 PM #23You need to ask Attorney at law. I have no idea if they will grant the Writ, but I think chances are good they will.[/quote:1p4ktrg1]
Originally Posted by Bowman
I think whether or not they grant the writ depends on whether or not they like what the 9th circus has to say on the subjectProud American and wife of a wonderful LEGAL immigrant from Ireland.
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07-01-2009, 06:24 PM #24Yes, you have a US passport and demand to see the US consolute if detained. Just like illegal aliens many times demand their government representation during trials. Also the majority of anchor babies obtain birth certifications and passports from their parents country, thus they along with their parents are under the jurisdiction of a foreign country.
Originally Posted by vortex
If Mexico or any foreign country opposes this initiative in any way, it seems that would greatly help our case.Join our efforts to Secure America's Borders and End Illegal Immigration by Joining ALIPAC's E-Mail Alerts network (CLICK HERE)
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07-01-2009, 06:28 PM #25In that case they will probably grant the Writ since the 9th Circus comes up with off the wall rulings that are more often than not overturned by the Supreme Court.
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07-01-2009, 06:39 PM #26Senior Member
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In any event, the Supreme Court is a long way off at the moment. The first step is to get this initiative passed. Is a ballot initiative the same as a proposition? if so, and enough signatures are gathered, this will appear on the 2010 ballot? Is that right?
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07-01-2009, 07:01 PM #27Yes to all. 650,000 signatures are needed, I am working on getting my share right now.
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07-01-2009, 07:12 PM #28On the other hand, lately they have had some sane rulings......I know...scared the blank out of me also. I wanted to check the temperature in hell
Originally Posted by Bowman
Proud American and wife of a wonderful LEGAL immigrant from Ireland.
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07-01-2009, 07:18 PM #29Senior Member
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Here is the link to the CALIFORNIA TAXPAYER PROTECTION ACT of 2010.
Sponsored by Taxpayer Revolution. You can download petition and sign.
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07-01-2009, 07:42 PM #30Only for registered California voters.
Originally Posted by NoBueno
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