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    California's Population Is Moving Out, Census Report Shows

    California's Population Is Moving Out, Census Report Shows

    A major facet of the state's economy, the agriculture industry has been affected by fewer undocumented immigrants crossing the border, deterred from coming to the U.S. because of high unemployment and a developing middle class in Mexico.
    More people are moving out of the state than into the state, a new Census report shows.

    By Olga Spilewsky and Conan Nolan
    Tuesday, Dec 11, 2012 | Updated 11:36 AM PST


    A new Census Bureau report reveals that about 100,000 more people are leaving California than are coming to the state. Robert Kleinhenz, chief economist at the Los Angeles Economic Development Corporation says, "we're moving in the right direction" when it comes to adding jobs in California. When that happens, he says the migration numbers will likely turn around. Conan Nolan reports from Downtown LA for the NBC4 News at 5 p.m. on December 10, 2012.

    About 100,000 more people moved away from California in 2011 than relocated to the Golden State, according to the latest report from the U.S. Census Bureau.

    The trend can be explained, in part, in monetary terms. Even in an economic boom, the cost of living in California has increased, prompting people to move out, and, in recent years, unemployment in the state has skyrocketed.

    So, where are these former Californians going?

    The Census Bureau calculates that the most popular destination is Texas (58,992), a state that is luring California companies. That’s followed by Arizona (49,635), Nevada (40,114), Washington (38,421) and Oregon (34,214).

    Although in smaller numbers, people are still relocating to the Golden State.

    Texans make up the largest number of translates to California with 37,387 people, according to the report. That is followed by people from Washington (36,481), Nevada (36,159), Arizona (35,650), and New York (25,269).

    Economic experts are optimistic that California’s economy has started picking up steam, and may reverse the movement out of the state.

    “We expect over the next couple of years that we will add jobs,” said Robert Kleinhenz, chief economist with the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corporation. "This year, we’ve added jobs in California at a faster pace than in the nation as a whole. So, we are moving in right direction. As that happens, we’ll see the migration numbers turn around some."

    A major facet of the state's economy, the agriculture industry has been affected by fewer undocumented immigrants crossing the border, deterred from coming to the U.S. because of high unemployment and a developing middle class in Mexico.

    According to the Census Bureau, 468,428 people have moved to California from other states and 269,772 have moved to the state from other countries.

    California's Population Is Moving Out, Census Report Shows | NBC Southern California
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    Well let them keep all the illegal aliens and see how that works for them.

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    I hope all of the whiners and complainers leave

    so we don't have to hear them anymore.
    NO AMNESTY

    DON'T REWARD THE CRIMINAL ACTIONS OF MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS

    BY GIVING THEM CITIZENSHIP

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    People are still relocating to the Golden State.

    Texans make up the largest number of translates to California with 37,387 people, according to the report. That is followed by people from Washington (36,481), Nevada (36,159), Arizona (35,650), and New York (25,269).
    No, don't come here. We don't want more people.

    We want to get rid of all of the illegal aliens and all of the whiners and complainers.
    NO AMNESTY

    DON'T REWARD THE CRIMINAL ACTIONS OF MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS

    BY GIVING THEM CITIZENSHIP

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    We already know that you hate California and Calfornians so why do you keep pushing it?
    NO AMNESTY

    DON'T REWARD THE CRIMINAL ACTIONS OF MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS

    BY GIVING THEM CITIZENSHIP

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    U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: GUARANTEES AMERICA FROM INVASION!

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    Unconstitutional Proposition 30 Ready to Make California the Highest Taxed State

    by Douglas Gibbs on December 11, 2012


    On Election Day 2012 the voters in California voted for an increase in sales tax, and a massive increase in State Income Tax on the wealthiest in the State. The claim was that the money was needed for education, but in reality it is going to be used to help pay for rising pension costs. The unions are powerful in California, and ensured that Proposition 30 passed, and Proposition 32, which would have limited how unions fund their favorite politicians, failed.

    In Britain, two-thirds of the top earners fled the country after the tax rate against them hit 50%. The resulting unintended consequence was a UK £7 billion loss in revenue. When the United Kingdom announced they would reduce that rate to 45%, 10,000 millionaires returned.

    In France, when the Socialists decided to raise the tax rate to 75% on income above 1.0 million euros per year, along with a sharp increase in taxes on capital gains from the sales of stock and company stakes, the rich began to leave the country. The successful population in France argues that the progressive tax rate will kill the market for innovative start-up companies. As in Britain, the French could be seeing a massive drop in revenue.

    The Founding Fathers were aware of the dangers of this kind of taxation. They were against direct taxation, and called the concept of the redistribution of wealth a “Utopian scheme of leveling.” Samuel Adams went so far as to say such actions are, “Impractical, despotic, and unconstitutional” at the federal level.

    Though direct taxation is constitutional at the State level, California’s hike in the tax rate against the rich is also retroactive to last January, and that makes the new law unconstitutional.

    Article I, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution says that “No State shall pass any ex post facto law.” Ex post facto law is retroactive law. As per Article I, Section 9, the federal government can’t pass any ex post facto law, either. That makes Proposition 30, and Bill Clinton’s retroactive tax in the 1990s, unconstitutional.

    The new nation wanted to be nothing like the British they had won their independence from, and the monarchy played games with taxation, and ex post facto laws, to hang on to power, and tighten its grip on the people. The way the founders saw it, if congress applied laws ex post facto, people could be charged with crimes that they committed before the act itself was even illegal, and that was just not acceptable in a free country. That, in the opinions of the Founding Fathers, is tyranny, and so the Constitution is specific about no allowing ex post facto laws.

    The unconstitutionality of Proposition 30 goes even deeper than that, however. In addition to the fact that retroactive law is unconstitutional, so is targeting a specific group and treating them differently under the law. Those that normally oppose the government following the original intent of the U.S. Constitution love to use the “Equal Protection Clause” in the 14th Amendment to support their talking points, but conveniently forget all about the Constitutional Requirement that all people be treated equally under the law when it comes to taxing the rich. Shouldn’t taxation, like any other law, be applied equally to all citizens? Is it not un-American to single out a single group with punitive laws?

    In the end, California’s Proposition 30 is unconstitutional, which makes it an illegal law, and once implemented will cost California the revenue the ruling elite in Sacramento believes the new tax law will create when the wealthiest Californians leave the State, just as the richest folks did in France and Britain.

    Prediction?

    California is in for a tough economic ride, worse than she has already faced under liberal democrat leadership; and after the next census California will lose at least one representative in Congress due to the dwindling population. . . well, the State will lose that seat as long as the census-takers don’t count the illegal aliens as a part of the “legal” population.

    Tagged as: california, douglas gibbs, economic freedom, high taxes, taxation

    Unconstitutional Proposition 30 Ready to Make California the Highest Taxed State
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    We already know that you hate California and Calfornians so why do you keep pushing it?
    Personally, I don't hate California, but I think that the liberal policies are running a great State into the ground and won't change their ways. It has become a model for what happens when immigration laws aren't enforced and the illegal aliens are allowed to suck the financial bones of the tax payers.
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    Amnesty for 11 million will increase debt by $6.3 trillion And that doesn't count costs of 22 million additional legal immigrants in just 10 years!
    A Nation of of 3rd World Broke A@@es "AmeriKa" cannot afford an Invasion of Broke A@@es from the 3rd World

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