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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowman
    You are wrong about assimilation from 1880 to 1920, immigrants segregated themselves back then by nationality and language just as much as they do now. The assimilation did not happen until immigration was drastically cut back in 1920, and during WWII when immigrants saw themselves as Americans fighting a common enemy.


    This decades long invasion is totally different from the assimilation of previous generations of legal immigrants (not illegal aliens - actual legal immigrants).

    Even back then, the "assimilation" was based on ingrained pride within the entire beings the immigrants who, more than not, were full blown families of father, mother, and children.

    They were a credible family who didn't just steal into America to give birth, so they could have America's 100% FREE medical to them, tax dollars, and other benefits to live off of by theft as illegal aliens.

    For decades most illegal alien children and/or anchor babies are raised by a single mother, with the father not to be found.

    If there is a mother and father who is suppose to be LEADING and REARING UP their children, then what the heck are they thinking?

    These so called innocent bystanders to their plight in life are very ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS who know exactly where to go each step of the way along their lifetime lifestyle as illegal aliens who are stealing everything they can from patriotic Americans and our government.



    Unfortunately the relation of race and culture are closely related.
    That's why Mexico's & South America's illegal aliens have bound together and made their demands almost always based on race and culture.

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    You are correct about current illegal immigration vs. past legal immigrants.
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    I respectfully disagree with Bowman. If there wasn't assimilation from 1880-1920 then there would have been war out on the streets. 40 years is a long time. There was a common culture and race for the most part. There were differences, but not enough to create a culture clash like what we have today. The Italians were seen as the underclass, and were called WOPS (without official papers), but they were able to assimilate too eventually. I do agree that the awful wars created by the New World Order did unite Americans in a Patriotic form. Patriotism and Culture are not quite the same.

    I agree with GR the Mexicans and South Americans uniting is another example of similar cultures assimilating together like what happened from 1880-1920 with the Europeans.

    Whatever the debate may be about history, we must see that assimilation in large numbers is not taking place today, and therein lies the problem. People wonder why the illegals are so bold now compared to the way they were initially. Well that's because the dominate race (whites) are less than 60%, so other less dominate culture groups are vying for the dominant spot. It's actually human nature. A baseball team that dominates for many years and then becomes a little weaker with winnings will then see a fierce competitor in another team that even though is weaker will fight for their spot.

    This is a clever carefully crafted destruction of this great land by the New World Order.

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    well, what percentage do the experts sayillegal aliens and hispanics of all denomination make in the population here in the USA? i read somewhere its 12%. thats not take over the country numbers, mabey ive got bad info. on ther high side, its said theres 30+million illegals. thats 10% give or take. i think in states like cali and newyork,FLA, the concentration is way more, giving the illusion the la ratzas have overrun the whole USA. they are jumping the gun imo, and without cash to back up the big checks these groups write, its all a pipedream.no one really knows how many IA's there are to start out with, dont add up to majority for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodVibrations
    Whatever the debate may be about history, we must see that assimilation in large numbers is not taking place today, and therein lies the problem.

    People wonder why the illegals are so bold now compared to the way they were initially. Well that's because the dominate race (whites) are less than 60%, so other less dominate culture groups are vying for the dominant spot. It's actually human nature.

    This is a clever carefully crafted destruction of this great land by the New World Order.
    Assimilation worked because, as Bowman posted, immigration slowed way down and Americans had time to absorb the newcomers. Now immigration has accelerated to the point that there is no longer a dominant group - and there's no end in sight.

    This country is increasingly being run for the convenience of corporate executives. Illegals benefit because they reduce the power of American labor. Those tech visa people benefit for the same reason - and they even get to apply for citizenship!

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    Part of the issue with us is we are losing our identity for a variety of reasons. In my Mothers era of the 40-50's families were much larger and having at least 4 kids was not uncommon. Interacial relationships were very uncommon back then.

    Today, it is a fact that we (whites) are having less babies with more on the one to two kids levels. The baby boomers are hitting their peak.

    Then you look at the wars we have fought since world war 1 and the amount of white male lives that were lost.

    And now you look at the large immigration issue we have been experiencing since the 80's and especially in the last decade where the dominate number of illegal aliens have been Hispanics.

    The Hispanic race, especially Mexicans, are still having large families.
    Part of the reason is because most of the illegals who came here are from poor backgrounds with little education. They are accustom to living the poor mans lifestyle and the mentality of having a large family is a good thing.

    This is carried forth in their offspring who are first generation US Citizens and as a result over the last two-three generations going back to the 80's we have seen a huge explosion in the Hispanic Mexican race in the US.

    Mathmatically on this current trend they are on track to overtake the white race by 2025 as that is the year the white race is projected to be a minority race in the US. By the year 2090 the Hispanic race will be the primary race at 90% according to researchers.

    We as Americans in our quest to be a diversity driven country are diversifying our own race and culture to extinction.

    We are becoming diluted due to the open borders policy of our government.

    The Hispanics don't want American culture. They want and bring the Hispanic culture of their race. They do not want to assimilate. They want to take.

    White America and Black America, the two dominating races since our country's inception are being overcome by the large numbers of illegals from Mexico and other Hispanic countries.

    Our culture and heritage is being stolen right under our noses and before long, most of the Americans who have been asleep on this issue will wake up one day to late and ask; what happened?

    One thing I have learned in the last 15 years of living in Arizona is the Hispanic race stands together regardless if their reason has any logical basis. They do it because of race. That is their identity. That is the one thing they can all say they have in common regardless of their education level or financial status. They are not afraid to say they are brown and proud of it but we white people have been made to believe it is wrong to be proud to be white. The Hispanics don't look at their heritage from a humanity standpoint but only from a race standpoint. Whites have been led to believe we are all equal as human beings. Hispanics don't beleive that. They believe only in their culture and their race AKA "La Raza".

    Americans need to stand up to this strongly and fight to maintain our culture, our race, and our freedoms. We already gave blood for this country in 1776. Do we now lose it to Mexico without a fight.
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    For Bowman or Goodvibrations, both that have either enjoyed the study or actually studied sociology a question.

    As for assimilation of immigrants, those from the old world left a land far behind and distance cut ties over the years. As for the Mexicans that steal their way into our nation, a nation with a open border for the most part, travel back to the home country is just a trip across the border. Does that hinder assimilation?

    Was also thinking that if these illegals are granted amnesty, then more enclaves around the country will provide for the cover needed by the next waves, as they will blend in while still illegal and still refusing to speak english will only aid the refuge.

    Then Americans if they still have a voice will be able to demand something be done, and then perhaps Americans will be ready for a modern solution to the problem, the electronic implant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatriotAZGUY
    Part of the issue with us is we are losing our identity for a variety of reasons. In my Mothers era of the 40-50's families were much larger and having at least 4 kids was not uncommon. Interacial relationships were very uncommon back then.

    Today, it is a fact that we (whites) are having less babies with more on the one to two kids levels. The baby boomers are hitting their peak.

    Then you look at the wars we have fought since world war 1 and the amount of white male lives that were lost.

    And now you look at the large immigration issue we have been experiencing since the 80's and especially in the last decade where the dominate number of illegal aliens have been Hispanics.

    The Hispanic race, especially Mexicans, are still having large families.
    Part of the reason is because most of the illegals who came here are from poor backgrounds with little education. They are accustom to living the poor mans lifestyle and the mentality of having a large family is a good thing.

    This is carried forth in their offspring who are first generation US Citizens and as a result over the last two-three generations going back to the 80's we have seen a huge explosion in the Hispanic Mexican race in the US.

    Mathmatically on this current trend they are on track to overtake the white race by 2025 as that is the year the white race is projected to be a minority race in the US. By the year 2090 the Hispanic race will be the primary race at 90% according to researchers.

    We as Americans in our quest to be a diversity driven country are diversifying our own race and culture to extinction.

    We are becoming diluted due to the open borders policy of our government.

    The Hispanics don't want American culture. They want and bring the Hispanic culture of their race. They do not want to assimilate. They want to take.

    White America and Black America, the two dominating races since our country's inception are being overcome by the large numbers of illegals from Mexico and other Hispanic countries.

    Our culture and heritage is being stolen right under our noses and before long, most of the Americans who have been asleep on this issue will wake up one day to late and ask; what happened?

    One thing I have learned in the last 15 years of living in Arizona is the Hispanic race stands together regardless if their reason has any logical basis. They do it because of race. That is their identity. That is the one thing they can all say they have in common regardless of their education level or financial status. They are not afraid to say they are brown and proud of it but we white people have been made to believe it is wrong to be proud to be white. The Hispanics don't look at their heritage from a humanity standpoint but only from a race standpoint. Whites have been led to believe we are all equal as human beings. Hispanics don't beleive that. They believe only in their culture and their race AKA "La Raza".

    Americans need to stand up to this strongly and fight to maintain our culture, our race, and our freedoms. We already gave blood for this country in 1776. Do we now lose it to Mexico without a fight.
    Excellent and most truthful post. Non-Hispanic Americans need to be made aware of what their bottom line agenda is via illegal immigration mostly from Mexico and other Latino countries.

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    Roundabout I'm a teacher who has taught American History, so maybe that helps my sociology credibility a little.

    I love the last post by Patriot. He's got a point there. We shed blood in 1776, but we seem to be in a fog now. Will we give up without a fight?

    If the figure 10% someone posted for the Latino population is accurate, then all we may have to do is buy guns in massive numbers across the country and spread rumors of an uprising. Just maybe they would scoot.

    However, even though they are only 10%, they have major strongholds in areas and act as the dominate race in those areas. Also, these folks are used to fighting. They seem to have more of it in their blood than many Americans do today. Intensity is the key. We need more of it.

    The hope is the J.D. Hayworth "Enforcement First" is adopted, and the attrition solves the problems with no violence. If not, then it's either war deux with them or we say mercy with inaction.

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