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- 06-16-2012, 08:01 PM #11Senior Member
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And here comes that old famous quote "lesser of two evils." I'm sorry MW, but I have to point out that that is fully, completely, and definitely what is wrong with the American voter. Willing to settle for less, then complaining about it when they get it. So, let's arise now and call for someone who is honest, says what they mean, and does what they promise when elected.
Political parties depend upon our accepting less, when they know that we want and desrve more. The framers showed great wisdom creating the Constitution, making government the responsibility of the American voter. It was attitudes like "lesser of two evils" that brought us to where we are today! Another was the attitude that my vote will not make a difference, so why vote.
Apathy of the voter like the two examples above is why we are in this mess. The voter has the resonsibility in a democracy. Responsibility to know who is running for office, the truth about what they represent, and carry the responsibility of the resulting action of the elected! It is known as American democracy, and for the last several decades the voter (myself and many others) have not shouldered that responbility responsibly! If you are willing to accpt the lesser of two evils, I will vote responsibly and not vote for either, because I'd rather vote for someone that I see as responsible in consideration of his duties than accept "lesser evil."
- 06-17-2012, 12:05 PM #12
Elections are always about voting for the lesser of two evils. Human beings, i.e. voters and candidates, have differing opinions on things. It's the nature of human beings that no candidate will be anyone's perfect candidate. Politics requires pragmatism. Go ahead and vote for someone who has no chance of beating Nobama. That's exactly what Nobama wants.
All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. -Edmund Burke
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- 06-18-2012, 02:19 AM #14
Romney is just doing a little sidestep! The only thing I am convinced of is that googler is an Obama Supporter.
- 06-18-2012, 02:44 AM #15Administrator
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That is out of bounds. If Googler is an Obama supporter because of his/her skepticism about Mitt Romney, then you could count me as an Obama supporter as well.
Everyone here is going to have to respect those that are not on the Romney band wagon because after saying he supported what Rubio wants to do, which is what Obama just did, a lot of people are going to balk on Romney.
Those are just the facts and there is plenty to lose and nothing to be gained by Romney supporters bashing those that dont support Romney over immigration issues.
If you all want to play that game, the enemy is going to plow right through us all which is what they intend to do, are likely to do, and will do unless we pull together and overcome our greatest challenge to date.
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- 06-18-2012, 07:26 AM #16
Of course he is. Above all else, Romney is a politician and as such needs to be very careful of what cards he decides to play and when. If he was to come out and say everything we would all like to hear, it would only serve to energize the enemy. IMO, it seems that some folks are forgetting the many things Romney has said and done in the past and are only focusing on some of the things he's not saying. Honestly, I can't see how anyone could think he'd be worse than Obama ........ but that's just my opinion.
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- 06-18-2012, 10:18 AM #17Banned
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Oblame-O owns this mess we're in all of it.
Republicans have picked our candidate, love him or hate him he now represents the GOP.
Obama is going to lose, a incarcerated convicted felon received 42% of his votes.
This President who is truly unknown to us, has swung a wrecking ball through this country and that ball is now completely extended on it's cable at a 45 degree angle, and is now on the down swing.
It is all "Damage Control" from here till November! Because if "We the People" let Obama win re-election it's over for not just the GOP, but for all Americans.
Anyone who logs on here knows or should know what is going on around us "Right Now" FEMA camps sprouting up all over, 450 million rounds of ammo for the DHS, Drones that look like UFO's so any sightings will be discredited, the only place we have left to find out what's really going on is under attack, the list is endless 40,00 new laws and 10,000 new regulations enacted as of Jan.1,2012
All of you here and all of those Americans like you, are all this country has left. Either you do it or it won't get done. Standing shoulder to shoulder is how we will win this fight. Want a link? Google "We stomped your ass in Wisconsin" and see what comes up!
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- 06-18-2012, 02:09 PM #18Senior Member
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Could not have put it any better.
It's precisely because of this "lesser of two evils" mindset that would potentially allow a Republican presidential candidate get away with promising a form of amnesty for millions of illegals on the condition that, say, the left accept amending the Constitution to deny citizenship to babies simply for being born here. Sure, the condition is what we all want, but at what cost? But hey, the Republican dude is better than the other guy so I don't care what he promises to the illegals, I'm voting for him/her!! And that is precisely what these parties expect from us and they know voters will fall in line when they have to decide who to pull the lever for.
- 06-18-2012, 02:23 PM #19Senior Member
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Ah pragmatism. Leads to compromise. Was Reagan being pragmatic when he passed Amnesty? So if Romney were to, say, accept Obama's policy change, he's simply being pragmatic right? Of course, pragmatism also means the politician expects to get something in return or to strike some sort of balance that will make his side somewhat happy.
- 06-18-2012, 04:56 PM #20Member
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I agree with you. Chain migration will do damage. This might sound very heartless of me, but I honestly don't sympathize with children or adults who were brought here illegally by their parents. The reasons I don't sympathize with them and anchor babies, is because their presence in this country has hurt American citizens and legal immigrants in various ways. They have drained resources and I don't think it is fair for a DREAMER to end up getting financial aid towards college.




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