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    Quote Originally Posted by HAPPY2BME View Post
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    It remains to be seen. Ryan is pro-gay.
    Where did you get that notion from? From everything I've read, Ryan is not pro-gay.

    "Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, reportedly Mitt Romney’s pick to join the Republican ticket, voted twice — in 2004 and 2006 — to amend the U.S. Constitution to prevent same-sex couples from marrying, taking action on an issue his running mate has largely avoided."

    "As recently as this May, Ryan voted for an amendment to the Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act "to prohibit the use of funds to be used in contravention of the Defense of Marriage Act."

    "Ryan voted against repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in 2010 and against the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Protection Act in 2009, two key legislative accomplishments that Obama has pointed to as a sign of his success on advancing an agenda of LGBT equality."

    source: Ryan Opposes Marriage, Hate Crimes Protection For Gays And Lesbians

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAPPY2BME View Post
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    It remains to be seen. Ryan is pro-gay.
    Where does he state that? Please post where he states that he is pro gay.

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    For those who did not see his VP announcement speech.


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    Pro-immigrants Groups Criticize Romney's VP Pick

    August 13, 2012
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    Mitt Romney's selection of Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan as his running mate is additional proof of the "disconnection" of Republicans with the reality of the majority of Hispanics in the United States, several pro-immigrant groups said Monday.

    The Romney-Ryan ticket, presented officially on Saturday at a campaign rally in Norfolk, Virginia, has injected new energy into both the conservative base of the Republican Party, which views it as a winning combination, as well as into the Democrats, who see it as a return to the "failed" policies of the past.

    The major concern among progressive groups consulted by Efe is that Ryan, 42, has defended anti-immigrant measures and is the architect of a budget proposal that emphasizes cuts to social spending.

    That plan, approved by the GOP-controlled House of Representatives but which did not prosper in the Senate, recommends drastic changes to Medicare and Social Security.

    Ryan, who was boosted politically by the Tea Party movement, defends his work in pursuit of "an agenda of economic growth, fiscal discipline and job creation."

    However, activists say that in his 14 years in the House, Ryan has prescribed ideological measures that hurt the middle class and favored the wealthy.

    His presence on the ticket with Romney consolidates the image of the Republican Party as one that "promotes anti-immigrant measures (and) fiscal proposals that run counter to the interests of the Latino community," Maribel Hastings, executive advisor to the pro-reform group America's Voice, told Efe.

    In her judgment, Romney "is giving up the Latino vote for lost," if one takes into account that, on the subject of immigration, "Ryan's presence does not offer any balance to the extreme stances Romney has outlined during the course of the electoral process."

    Hastings referred to the fact that Ryan in December 2010 was among those who voted against the DREAM Act to legalize the presence of undocumented students in this country and, in 2005, supported a bill to criminalize unauthorized immigration.

    In April 2011, during a budget forum on YouTube, Ryan listened to complaints of conservatives that the U.S.-born children of undocumented immigrants are a public burden and don't deserve to receive automatic citizenship.

    Ryan replied that that would require a constitutional amendment and that, in any case, the ways to combat illegal immigration were to strengthen border security and "correct the legal immigration system."

    Other national groups, among them LULAC, the Hispanic Federation and the National Association for Hispanic Elderly, are warning that the budget cuts Ryan is promoting would harm the Latino community.

    An editorial in the Spanish-language daily La Opinion criticized Romney's VP choice as being "partisan extremism," and it said that "the designation of one of the most radical, polarizing and obstructionist figures in Congress does not help to attract the vote of minorities and moderates."

    But Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, the most prominent Hispanic Republican, has come out defending Ryan as a "courageous reformer." Others believe he could help bring the kind of economic reform the country needs.

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    I really don't think Romney would have gotten the Latino vote if he chose Rubio as his VP. From what I have read on the Dreamers blogs they don't like Rubio. Pro Immigration Activist would like us to believe that they are one big happy group, and we are racist but the truth is that there is an awful lot of hate amongst the different Latino nationalities.

    On one hand the Tea Partiers were condemned as being senior citizens (baby boomers), then they say the Tea Partiers support Ryan while at the same time saying the senior citizens won't vote for Ryan. Every one of my friends that are baby boomers are not happy with Medicare, especially since Obamacare has started kicking in. Republican or Democrat we are not senile. Does Obama really think we were not going to notice that we were quoted once price for our Medicare and Supplemental only to have the price double due to Obamacare. The fact is many of us now pay more for our Health Insurance then we did before being forced to take Medicare. If we had been allowed to keep our Insurance and use vouchers we would be better off. Maybe seniors who use Medicaid might not want any changes, but the rest of us want Medicare to be reformed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasBorn View Post
    Ryan was a very good choice. Rubio and Jindal are both constitutionally ineligible. Romney knew choosing either of these two would have put him in a no win situation.
    I'm glad he picked Ryan rather than one of the other two as well, however, on what basis would Jindal or Rubio be constitutionally ineligible to be Vice-President?

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    I'm glad he picked Ryan rather than one of the other two as well, however, on what basis would Jindal or Rubio be constitutionally ineligible to be Vice-President?
    It is arguable because in both cases their parents were born in other countries (Rubio's in Cuba and Jindal's in India). Jindal was born in the US, Rubio I am not sure. But a lot of people are arguing that the term 'natural born citizen' means to be born on US soil and both parents must be citizens. In Rubio's case I do not believe his parents had achieved citizenship at the time of his birth. The same might apply to Jindal. However, since no one in government wants to challenge Obama's citizenship (and as far as I am concerned, his credentials are a lot more dubious than either Rubio or Jindal's) I do not think there would be a successful legal challenge to either Rubio or Jindal. However, the Democrats, unlike the wishy washy GOP. would have no hesitation to use it as a demonizing tactic to divert attention away from Obama's obvious faults, failures, and nation-destroying agenda.
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