Thread: Trump: Eyes effort to deport native-born children of aliens living illegally in US

Trump: Eyes effort to deport native-born children of immigrants living illegally in US

By STEPHEN BRAUN Associated Press
AUGUST 16, 2015 — 1:50PM

WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump wants more than a wall to keep out immigrants living in the country illegally. He also wants to end "birthright citizenship" for their children, he said Sunday. And he would rescind Obama administration executive orders on immigration and toughen deportation, allowing in only "the good ones."

Trump described his expanded vision of how to secure American borders during a wide-ranging interview Sunday on NBC's "Meet The Press," saying that he would push to end the constitutionally protected citizenship rights of children of any family living illegally inside the U.S.

"They have to go," Trump said, adding: "What they're doing, they're having a baby. And then all of a sudden, nobody knows...the baby's here."

Native-born children of immigrants — even those living illegally in the U.S. — have been automatically considered American citizens since the adoption of the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution in 1868.

The odds of repealing the amendment's citizenship clause would be steep, requiring the votes of two-thirds of both houses of Congress and support from three-fourths of the nation's state legislatures.

Republicans in Congress have pushed without success to repeal that provision since 2011.

"They're illegal," Trump said, describing native-born children of people living illegally in the US. "You either have a country or not."

Trump's remarks came as his campaign website posted his program for "immigration reform." Among its details: Making Mexico pay for a permanent border wall. Mandatory deportation of all "criminal aliens." Tripling the force of immigration officers by eliminating tax credit payments to immigrant families residing illegally in the U.S.

He said that families with U.S.-born children could return quickly if deemed worthy by the government. "We're going to try and bring them back rapidly, the good ones," he said, adding: "We will expedite it so people can come back in. The good people can come back."

Trump did not elaborate on how he would define "good people." But echoing earlier controversial remarks that Mexico was sending criminals across the border, Trump said a tough deportation policy was needed because "there's definitely evidence" of crimes linked to immigrants living in the country illegally.

The New York businessman also said he would waste little time rescinding President Barack Obama's executive actions aimed at allowing as many as 3.7 million immigrants living illegally in the U.S. to remain in the country because of their U.S.-born relatives.

Obama's November 2014 actions were halted by temporary injunctions ordered by several federal courts in rulings challenging his executive powers to alter immigration policies without Congressional approval. The cases could lead to the U.S. Supreme Court.

"We have to make a whole new set of standards," Trump said. "And when people come in, they have to come in legally."

On Sunday, Ohio Gov. John Kasich echoed Trump's call to finish construction of an incomplete system of barriers on the nation's southern border with Mexico. There are still gaps in the barriers, which have been under construction since 2005.

Speaking on CBS' "Face the Nation," Kasich said he would "finish the wall" but would then work to legalize 12 million immigrants now estimated to live in the U.S. illegally. Kasich said he would "make sure we don't have anybody — any of the criminal element here." He would also revive the guest-worker programs that previously brought in temporary workers to aid in farming and other industries hobbled by labor shortages.

Most other GOP candidates also back completing the border wall but differ over how to treat immigrant families already living in the U.S. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush recently released his own immigration plan calling for the use of forward bases and drones to guard the border, but also backing an eventual plan to legalize the status of immigrant families. Bush disagrees with Obama's use of executive actions to unilaterally enforce the policy.

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio worked with senators from both parties to develop a comprehensive plan in 2013 that would have legalized the status of many immigrant families. But Congress balked at the idea as tea party Republicans opposed the deal and Rubio has since backed away from his support.

http://www.startribune.com/trump-wan...-us/321987191/

No other western nation has birthright citizenship except the U.S. and Canada! Why the hell do we have it?? It's only a magnet for illegals and law breakers! We MUST end birthright citizenship!

England, Ireland, Scotland, France, Spain, Germany, Japan, etc. either got rid of it long ago or NEVER had it! We MUST get rid of birthright citizenship otherwise we'll always be a target of illegals and law breakers!

Thankfully Trump said he would end it!

THUMBS DOWN ON Kasich - said he would "finish the wall" but would then work to legalize 12 million immigrants now estimated to live in the U.S. illegally. Spells AMNESTY. Of course, same with Bush.

Hopefully with O out the door soon, lawmakers can adjust the birthright citizenship rules to current times. It will require a lot of support and a big push from the public to make the politicians move on that & remove it once and for all. They could be pushed now and prepare the action for next admin. Otherwise the Chamber of commerce will continue to chat them up @ MORE people here and birthright citizenship is certainly being used for that purpose. And the less English language the populace knows, the easier to push thru the continued use of polluting and toxic industries for reckless profiteering.

This quote from the article below: "Native-born children of immigrants — even those living illegally in the U.S. — have been automatically considered American citizens since the adoption of the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution in 1868.

The odds of repealing the amendment's citizenship clause would be steep, requiring the votes of two-thirds of both houses of Congress and support from three-fourths of the nation's state legislatures."

Ann Coulter assures us that a new amendment to the Constitution is not necessary to end birthright citizen ship only clarifying legislation from the Congress. And NO it has NOT BEEN UNDERSTOOD since 1868 that just being born on American soil automatically bestows citizenship. The congress that passed the 14 Amendment understood that it applied to former slaves only. Read their own statements about it.

This quote is another example of how the liberal monopoly "news"media distorts facts to peddle their Marxist agenda.

Originally Posted by csarbww

This quote from the article below: "Native-born children of immigrants — even those living illegally in the U.S. — have been automatically considered American citizens since the adoption of the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution in 1868.

The odds of repealing the amendment's citizenship clause would be steep, requiring the votes of two-thirds of both houses of Congress and support from three-fourths of the nation's state legislatures."

Ann Coulter assures us that a new amendment to the Constitution is not necessary to end birthright citizen ship only clarifying legislation from the Congress. And NO it has NOT BEEN UNDERSTOOD since 1868 that just being born on American soil automatically bestows citizenship. The congress that passed the 14 Amendment understood that it applied to former slaves only. Read their own statements about it.

This quote is another example of how the liberal monopoly "news"media distorts facts to peddle their Marxist agenda.

Exactly.

It would be great if we could instantly end birthright citizenship but the minute congress, the next president or anyone else does anything someone will file a lawsuit and the judge will put it on hold and it will all be tied up in court for years.

Originally Posted by csarbww

And NO it has NOT BEEN UNDERSTOOD since 1868 that just being born on American soil automatically bestows citizenship. The congress that passed the 14 Amendment understood that it applied to former slaves only. Read their own statements about it.

Those statements should be available in the Congressional Record.
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Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

It would be great if we could instantly end birthright citizenship but the minute congress, the next president or anyone else does anything someone will file a lawsuit and the judge will put it on hold and it will all be tied up in court for years.

Freedom is a constant struggle.
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He said that families with U.S.-born children could return quickly if deemed worthy by the government. "We're going to try and bring them back rapidly, the good ones," he said, adding: "We will expedite it so people can come back in. The good people can come back."

Geez, whenever I start to warm up to Trump he says something stupid! What he is describing here is moving illegals to the head of the line for legalization. In my book that is a form of amnesty.

Originally Posted by MW

Geez, whenever I start to warm up to Trump he says something stupid! What he is describing here is moving illegals to the head of the line for legalization. In my book that is a form of amnesty.

Yeah but Trump won't take a bunch of dishwashers and busboys. He's talking about people who have a REASON to be here. Even the LA Times admitted that only 4 percent of illegals work in agriculture. FOUR percent! So instead of 11+ million illegals you would have a few hundred thousand applying for guest worker permits and then hopefully return to Mexico when finished.

I say Americans can do it but people swear up and down you can't get enough Americans to pick grapes and lettuce.