Thread: Trump: Eyes effort to deport native-born children of aliens living illegally in US

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

It would be great if we could instantly end birthright citizenship but the minute congress, the next president or anyone else does anything someone will file a lawsuit and the judge will put it on hold and it will all be tied up in court for years.

Other countries have done it. Conservatives should be more adroit in using the law, since this is where policy decisions often end up.

Originally Posted by Stopillegalimmigration

Yeah but Trump won't take a bunch of dishwashers and busboys. He's talking about people who have a REASON to be here. Even the LA Times admitted that only 4 percent of illegals work in agriculture. FOUR percent! So instead of 11+ million illegals you would have a few hundred thousand applying for guest worker permits and then hopefully return to Mexico when finished.

I say Americans can do it but people swear up and down you can't get enough Americans to pick grapes and lettuce.

Americans have always picked grapes and lettuce. The people who claim you can't get enough Americans to do this work are the illegal employers lying to the media and politicians about American Workers. Even so, there is, has been and always will be the legal temporary agricultural workers program that brings in supervised workers to do this work and they are transported out of here at the end of the season by the employers who bring them in.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

It would be great if we could instantly end birthright citizenship but the minute congress, the next president or anyone else does anything someone will file a lawsuit and the judge will put it on hold and it will all be tied up in court for years.

You can't put a non-action on hold. What is required is that they stop issuing passports and handing out Social Security numbers based on birth certificates issued to children of non-citizens. No court can force a stop to a stop. Furthermore, as soon as someone files for a US passport and a social security number whose parents aren't citizens, that information needs to be forwarded by SSA and the State Department to DHS for immediate removal of the family from the country. Also, if States are authorized by Trey Gowdy's bill to enforce US immigration law, States can also require proof of citizenship of the parents before issuing official birth certificates, which is what they should have been doing all along.

Eyes effort to deport native-born children of immigrants living illegally in US

They are not native born, they are the children of illegal foreign nationals that are under the jurisdiction and protection of their home countries JMO

Originally Posted by Newmexican

They are not native born, they are the children of illegal foreign nationals that are under the jurisdiction and protection of their home countries JMO

Exactly. All sucking our coffers dry by forcing Americans to underwrite their living-here-illegally expenses.

http://www.alipac.us/f12/nearly-one-...rk-u-s-322224/

11,000 Mexicans with doctoral degrees reside and work in the United States . . .

DOING WORK THAT AMERICANS WON'T DO?

http://www.alipac.us/f12/struggling-...7-hour-322219/

Australia and Canada both have about 30 million people. And they both have higher living standards than the US. This argument about "well we've got to keep up with China, they got so many people " I don't agree with. How many people does Israel have compared with the surrounding countries. About 100 to 1? Furthermore our grandiose educational system is bargaining off vital secrets to China.

http://www.alipac.us/f12/trumps-anch...tution-322229/

"The Constitution says very clearly, whoever is born here - no matter the intent of the parent - is a natural-born citizen. He could not change that. Even if he were to change the Constitution, it would not affect people who had already been born here. It would only affect people not yet born here," said Napolitano. . .

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

It would be great if we could instantly end birthright citizenship but the minute congress, the next president or anyone else does anything someone will file a lawsuit and the judge will put it on hold and it will all be tied up in court for years.

They could do that with a President doing it but if it was through Congress as an Act to clarify the meaning of the Jurisdiction phrase then the courts technically are out of the loop. Congress has the power to Clarify or Define the meaning of something in the Constitution. As long as they aren't really adding to or subtracting from it a simple Act will work.

However the President has more powers as well as does Congress that the Courts also won't have as much luck stopping. One such thing is not *outright denying* citizenship to children born to illegal aliens but to require valid ID of the parents in filing a birth certificate for the child for *identity* confirmation. Then make a list of acceptable IDs. The courts would have a tough one with that as well along with previous cases that have failed similiar.