Thread: CAIR sues Oklahoma for banning Islamic law

ELECTION 2010

CAIR sues Oklahoma for banning Islamic law

Unindicted terrorist co-conspirator reacts after 70% of voters approve

Posted: November 04, 2010
1:59 am Eastern

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Muneer Awad

The Oklahoma chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations announced today it will file a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of a state ballot measure that bars judges from considering Islamic law in any ruling.

On Tuesday, with about a dozen other states watching, Oklahoma became the first state to put before voters the proposition that Islamic courts, Islamic law – known as Shariah – and Shariah-based court decisions should be banned.

State Question 755, a constitutional amendment, was approved by 70 percent of Oklahoma voters. But at a news conference today, CAIR-OK Executive Director Muneer Awad called the measure unnecessary and offensive.

"There's no threat," Awad said, according to The Oklahoman newspaper. "It's a legal impossibility."

Awad was joined at the news conference by Chuck Thornton, deputy director of ACLU-Oklahoma; Imad Enchassi, imam of the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City; and Nathaniel Batchelder, director of the Central Oklahoma Human Rights Association.

The local leaders charged Oklahoma politicians used fear-mongering and misinformation to scare citizens into supporting the measure, the Oklahoma paper reported.

Awad asserted the measure conflicts with the U.S. Constitution while Thornton warned it could discourage international investment in Oklahoma.

Thornton called the measure an "ugly piece of legislation that was used to inflame passions against the Islamic community."

An author of the legislation, however, Republican state Sen. Anthony Sykes, said the measure, and one that requires official state actions to be conducted in English, reflected the values of Oklahomans.

"Certainly each of these measures had critics, but the crushing margins by which these constitutional amendments passed shows without a doubt that those critics are deeply out of touch with the values and views of Oklahomans, just as Washington, D.C., is out of touch with America," Sykes said.

CAIR, whose national office is in the nation's capital, describes itself as a civil-rights group, but FBI evidence points to its origin as a front group for the Muslim Brotherhood and its offshoot Hamas, and the Justice Department designated it an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terror-finance case in U.S. history. The Washington, D.C.-based group, which has more than a dozen former and current leaders with known associations with violent jihad, is suing two investigators behind the best-selling expose "Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That's Conspiring to Islamize America".

The chief sponsor of the measure, state Rep. Rex Duncan, has argued that while the threat of Shariah in Oklahoma is not "imminent," there's "a storm on the horizon."

As a bill in Oklahoma legislature, the Shariah ban, called "Save Our State," received the support of 82 of 92 members in the state House and 41 of 43 members in the Senate.

Critics of the measure argue there's never been a single use of Shariah in Oklahoma, and Islamic leaders have called it "fear-mongering."

The non-profit advocacy group Act for America contributed 250,000 automated telephone calls to voters, warning them of what founder Brigitte Gabriel calls "the destructive effects of this radical legal system in Europe."

Gabriel called Shariah, which stipulates punishments ranging from chopping off the hand of a thief to death for infidelity, "is an oppressive, discriminatory law system. It suppresses religion, speech."

"We want to make a very strong message (to Muslims), you are welcome to America, pray to whatever god you want to pray to, the Constitution gives you that right, but in America our law is the Constitution," she said.

Gabriel said it's imperative for voters to establish that the U.S. Constitution, and no other document, is the controlling law of the land before the U.S. begins looking like the U.K.

"We are trying to warn Americans to look at what's happening in Europe. If Europe is any preview, we need to make sure we put up the barriers right now," she said.

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'People Love to Hate Muslims'
Posted 8/13/2010 3:18:00 PM
Source: Russian TV
As the midterm elections get closer, the GOP has pulled out their weapon of choice: fear mongering. A subject that has delivered without fail is the right's main issue of this 2010 election: Islamophobia.

With such high profile Republicans such as Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich opposing the Islamic Center next to Ground Zero, how are Muslims perceived in America?

http://www.cair.com/ArticleDetails.aspx ... currPage=1

I apologize there Mr. Muslim but the terrified screams of women being buried up to they're chest and then being stoned to death is a little more then we're accustomed to. Try Washington DC anything goes there.

Islam is of the Devil and Jesus foretold that a number of false prophets would come after him. Muhammad was at best a false prophet and more likely a prophet of pagan evil against God. God allowed Job to be tested by the Devil as was Jesus (who scorned the Devil for his attempt) and they passed these tests of his faith in God and His Father in Heaven, but perhaps Muhammad failed miserably. It is nothing but a cult and a set of Godless laws since it calls on many of it's laws, judgments and punishments that are clearly against God's teachings for His believers throughout the bible. It is a pagan pseudo-religion that worships a black stone in Mecca and prays towards it 5 times a day. Does this sound like a religion of the one true God that worships only Him? The Devil is indeed very active in his deception in our world today. I completely agree with Oklahoma and their blockage of this "Religions' " attempt to subjugate the laws of our great nation that are based upon the teachings in the Holy Bible!

Sharia is a law based off the Islamic Religion. By the US law of seperation of church and state it should not be an issue, however..

There was a case not too long ago where a US Judge agreed that a muslim man did not rape his wife because his religion says a husband can not rape his wife.

It was over turned on appeal but that doesn't change the fact that a US Judge allowed a rapist to go free on religious reasons.

Thornton called the measure an "ugly piece of legislation that was used to inflame passions against the Islamic community."

So, if there is a religious group that believes in human sacrifice or polygamy and insists that their religious laws be honored in our legal system do we change out laws to accommodate them. We already have laws that reject religious dictates. Regardless of the Amish religious practices, or the Mormon religious practices ( polygamy was outlawed) those citizens that practice these religions are still subject to the same laws as the rest of the country

Oklahoma is just protecting itself from the well documented "Sharia Creep" that has been that has been showing itself in Europe, New Jersey and Minnesota that attempts to trump our laws and give Muslims a different set of rules to play by.

Our country already has a set of laws that applies to everyone equally. If a person is in this country they are subject to our laws, we are not subject to theirs. Recognizing laws that are imposed by religious dictates undermines constitutional laws by the people. I think that it is wrong to set one religion above others and allow them different rules from everyone else.

We are a Republic and if Sharia Laws are not a good fit with our culture and these folks want to practice Sharia Law, they should look for a country that already allows it. JMO.

Originally Posted by sugarhighwolf

By the US law of seperation of church and state it should not be an issue,

No place in the Constitution does it say "separation of church and state", it says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion".

In other words Congress cannot for example make Southern Baptists the national religion and ban all others. Unfortunately the Supreme Court has expanded that to the states, and to any mention of religion. We need a more traditionalist Supreme Court who will implement the Constitution as the founders intended.

Originally Posted by Bowman

Originally Posted by sugarhighwolf

By the US law of seperation of church and state it should not be an issue,

No place in the Constitution does it say "separation of church and state", it says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion".

In other words Congress cannot for example make Southern Baptists the national religion and ban all others. Unfortunately the Supreme Court has expanded that to the states, and to any mention of religion. We need a more traditionalist Supreme Court who will implement the Constitution as the founders intended.

I never said the US Constitution, I said US Law. There is a difference.

Even in that, maybe I am wrong. /shrug I based what I said off this:

Separation of church and state is a political and legal doctrine that government and religious institutions are to be kept separate and independent from each other.[1] The term most often refers to the combination of two principles: secularity of government and freedom of religious exercise.[2]
http://www.uslaw.com/us_law_dictionary/ ... +and+State

Originally Posted by sugarhighwolf

Sharia is a law based off the Islamic Religion. By the US law of seperation of church and state it should not be an issue, however..

I must have missed that part of our Bill of Rights. Our first amendment says:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The "separation of Church (which is the people, not the building) and State and this supposed wall of separation is used against those who express their belief in Him! Just because, as you wrote that it is a legal doctrine, does not make it legal under our Constitution.

They will use our justice department to hang stuff up for years. We have to be aware of everything they do as they are, and their goal is to rule the world with Sahria law. No thanks!!

Originally Posted by Redneck_Veteran

Originally Posted by sugarhighwolf

Sharia is a law based off the Islamic Religion. By the US law of seperation of church and state it should not be an issue, however..

I must have missed that part of our Bill of Rights. Our first amendment says:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The "separation of Church (which is the people, not the building) and State and this supposed wall of separation is used against those who express their belief in Him! Just because, as you wrote that it is a legal doctrine, does not make it legal under our Constitution.

I never said it was in the Constitution. I said it was part of US Law. The law has grown beyond what all is said in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Try praying in a public school.

Back to the subject of the thread, what OK did was needed. We have already seen cases where a US Judge ruled based on muslim beliefs.