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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Illegal Aliens Arrested in Virginia Had B of A Credit Cards Reply with quote

Two detainees wanted
Illegal immigrant suspects had records. Two of 9 caught at hotel are fugitives, Morganelli says.

http://www.nj.com/news/expresstimes/pa/index.ssf?/base/news-10/1175659503308050.xml&coll=2

Wednesday, April 04, 2007
By SARAH CASSI
The Express-Times

EASTON | Two of the nine suspected illegal immigrants detained Monday when they arrived for work at Hotel Bethlehem had criminal records, District Attorney John Morganelli said Tuesday.

Morganelli said Flor Rocha, of Falls Church, Va., was wanted in California for a dangerous drugs charge, but officials wouldn't extradite him back to California. Juan Carlos Hinjosa, of Springfield, Va., was wanted by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials after he was arrested in February 2005.

The illegal immigrants -- seven from Bolivia, one from El Salvador and one from Guatemala -- were working for a subcontractor putting up drywall at the hotel. Morganelli received a complaint that led to the investigation and apprehension of the nine men.

Morganelli said the subcontractor was a Virginia-based company which claims the men were individual contractors.

"We know that's just a way to avoid worker's compensation," Morganelli said. He added the title of individual contractor gives the company plausible deniability in immigration cases.

Eight of the men lived in Virginia and one lived in Maryland. Morganelli said none would face local charges. The men were turned over to immigration officials and taken into federal custody.

Morganelli said two of the men were able to get Bank of America credit cards under a new program where the bank does not require social security numbers or a credit history to open an account.

The cards listed the men's names with additional last names.

"Obviously they're not doing a good job identifying their customers," Morganelli said.

Morganelli said he was also disappointed with response from ICE officials

<MOD NOTE: The portion below was left out of the post so I added it>

When county detectives asked for ICE's help, immigration officials asked detectives why they weren't apprehending gang members or drug dealers, Morganelli said.

"I'm very annoyed by this," Morganelli said. "Our office does not need to be questioned we expect (ICE) to do their job." .

A recent government report found ICE has lost track of 623,000 fugitive aliens, Morganelli said.

Morganelli said this wasn't the first time his office faced disrespect from customs enforcement. Morganelli said he has lodged a complaint with Congressman Charlie Dent and planned to speak with U.S. Attorney Patrick Meehan.

Ernestine Fobbs, an ICE spokeswoman, said the agency responded when Morganelli asked for assistance and all nine men are going through the removal process.

"This is something we do on a daily basis across the nation," Fobbs said.

Fobbs said Morganelli could contact the Law Enforcement Support Center if he had any issues with ICE.

Reporter Sarah Cassi can be reached at 610-258-7171 or by e-mail at scassi@express-times.com.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We told you so!

Bank of Illegal Aliens and Drug Dealers.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Morganelli said two of the men were able to get Bank of America credit cards under a new program where the bank does not require social security numbers or a credit history to open an account.

The cards listed the men's names with additional last names.

"Obviously they're not doing a good job identifying their customers," Morganelli said.


Obviously they could care less............it is all about greed! SHAME on Bank of America . I hope they feel the heat from this THE GREEDY TRAITORS! Evil or Very Mad Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need this on the alipac homepage.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just new when this was reported yesterday that they were the ones Lou Dobbs was talking about and you could tell he was very happy to report these guys had BofA Visa cards. How great is this!! This makes today perfect, thank you!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Off Reply with quote

And there off. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I will be appearing today, April 4, 2007 on Fox News Network's Neal Cavuto Show at 4:00pm to discuss arrest of illegal aliens who were carrying Bank of America cards with them.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can walk into any branch of Bank America in the Washington DC area and it is filled with illegals. In fact the bank tellers must speak spanish to work at the bank. It is bad. The schools are overcrowded due to illegals, the hospitals are going out of business, the highways are crowded and we have drunk illegals on the streets all the time. There are gangs of illegals in front of 7-elevens. And this is within miles of congress and the white house. Of course most of the senators and congressmen live in gated communities or protected apartments and hire illegals as gardners and housekeepers. The construction industry has so many illegals and builders don't hire supervisors that speak spanish and naturally the workers refuse to speak english so houses are built which don't conform to code and you have to hire another company to rebuild.

Recently I talked to a lady from Fort Blevior and under the new housing contract for the military base, workers are allowed to enter the houses without someone being home and non of the workers speak english. How would you to come home and find someone in your house who doesn't speak english? And this is on an army base.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to BofA with a friend to close his accounts. It was amazing to see in the short time since I had been there, how the clientele had changed. Not one person waiting in line spoke English. The look on the tellers faces was that of disgust. One teller was trying to explain to a women how you can't get money out of a bank just because you have a credit card! Another women who didn't speak English was handing the teller her phone to talk to her daughter. It was a total zoo.
When we got to the window, I said " hmm guess giving illegals credit wasn't such a good idea" The tellers response was "not a good idea at all, but you didn't hear that from me"


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Morganelli said the subcontractor was a Virginia-based company which claims the men were individual contractors.


I read this on the home page and know this story is about BOA but somebody prosecuting these cases arent doing their job.

Lets see, how about tax evasion, fraud, and a few other charges,
ANY COMPANY that hires subcontractors, or contractors, has federal law requirements that must be meet before they can pay, or be payed those states Virginia and Maryland. were not excempt as of 2003
1) To show workers comp,
2) Show liability insurance
3) Report the pay out to the IRS, every time. with a fed Id number for both parties.
If theses guys where illegal then the prosecutors arent doing the job, the crime rolls back to the person that is having the work done in the first place. There is no loop hole to the workers comp or taxes.
Most banks financing the (homes) jobs dont even ask for this proof but its time they start. Affidavits need to be shown and I have to show them on all jobs. for any one person on the job from the GC all the way down to the guys that scraps the pieces of Grass to the dumpsters. I have to provide this info and so should all the companies using illegals, or those companies should be closed. I GET SO TIRED OF HAVING TO FOLLOWING THE RULES BUT THESE OTHERS DONT.

What is the Company in Virginia, why is it not named?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think these employers need to held responsible for hiring these people. It is illegal to hire illegal aliens and someone needs to enforce this law. Same goes for banks and others that enable them to function in our society. Seems to me if we enforce this law and all these wealthy business owners start doing a little time in jail and get hit with very hefty fines this problem would soon take care of itself. If a person cant show legal papers they don't get the job. It would be the responsibility of the person applying for the job to show proof they are legal. It might be already, I'm just not sure, but the law should be that NO ONE be hired without a legal SS #. And we need a system where as the number can be run and be verified. I think your SS # should be some how hooked to your finger print so there is no doubt who's number it is so they cant be forged or stolen. I'm sure there is someone out there, a lot smarter than myself, that can figure out a way to make all this work. If we don't figure all this out and soon, our children will have no future.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Morganelli said two of the men were able to get Bank of America credit cards under a new program where the bank does not require social security numbers or a credit history to open an account.

The cards listed the men's names with additional last names.




Rolling Eyes Two illegal aliens with BofA credit cards, in a variety of last names. Imagine this multiplied by all the illegals in America. Imagine illegals charging their cards to the max, and then skipping on back to Mexico. I wonder how long it will take before BofA realizes they are going to 'bankrupt' themselves.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't there something illegal regarding providing services to one group of people with different requirements than providing the same services to a different group of people ?
i.e. no social security numbers required?
Or is BofA aiding and abetting criminals with stolen SSN?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Recently I talked to a lady from Fort Blevior and under the new housing contract for the military base, workers are allowed to enter the houses without someone being home and non of the workers speak english. How would you to come home and find someone in your house who doesn't speak english? And this is on an army base.


The Feds are really going after illegal aliens working on military bases. You need to get your friend to report this to ICE.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

USAmom, WELCOME!!!! We all agree 100%, this stuff needed to be enforced in the first place, but business and lining the pockets of business or government is more important, apparently, to our elected officials than our laws, and what Americans think, that is why we need more people, like yourself to voice that to them.

They cannot ignore us if there are millions speaking up.

Stay with us and bring more fed-up Americans with you.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


USAmom, Lots going on here, glad to have you with us, United we stand!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just applied for a Bank of America credit card so I can close it and send them back the cut up card with my letter of disapproval Very Happy

Figure a letter with a cut up card draws more attention than a letter by itself.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just applied for a Bank of America credit card so I can close it and send them back the cut up card with my letter of disapproval Very Happy

Figure a letter with a cut up card draws more attention than a letter by itself.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

duece212 wrote:
I just applied for a Bank of America credit card so I can close it and send them back the cut up card with my letter of disapproval Very Happy

Figure a letter with a cut up card draws more attention than a letter by itself.


Good luck closing the credit card out. I closed two accounts in writing. They just kept sending me those CC checks every month. I finally just reported it stolen and refused a replacement card.
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loservillelabor wrote:

Good luck closing the credit card out. I closed two accounts in writing. They just kept sending me those CC checks every month. I finally just reported it stolen and refused a replacement card.


I check my credit on a daily basis. I would give them one billing cycle to mark it closed after receipt of my written request. If it took any longer copies of my letter, proof of B of A receiving it, and a copy of them showing open on my credit would be sent from my lawyer asking nicely one last time to close it Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why doesn't someone identify the name of the (Virginia) contractor that hires these "independent contractors", so we can avoid doing business with them, insure that local governments don't do business with them, and send them a letter advising them that we know of their wrongdoing?
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Cliffdid wrote:
I went to BofA with a friend to close his accounts. It was amazing to see in the short time since I had been there, how the clientele had changed. Not one person waiting in line spoke English. The look on the tellers faces was that of disgust. One teller was trying to explain to a women how you can't get money out of a bank just because you have a credit card! Another women who didn't speak English was handing the teller her phone to talk to her daughter. It was a total zoo.
When we got to the window, I said " hmm guess giving illegals credit wasn't such a good idea" The tellers response was "not a good idea at all, but you didn't hear that from me"

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